How to hold the Shild

[Helge]

Hi.

so we holding Shilds like this

but it must be like this

 

[Moeckerkalfie]

You are right, there has been some discussion about that already. Unfortunately it is not easy to change the way the shield is held by modding alone. There have been some attempts at it already, but the main problem is that the game sees the shield centered at a certain part of the arm, no matter where the visible shield ends up.
So if we change the shield alone it will look different, but arrows for example will pass through it or get stuck at places that are not even covered by the visible shield, so thats not a solution. In some mods the position has been changed anyway, but mostly it leads to the faulty hitbox. Only most mods don't suffer from these side effects as badly as we would, because in Vikingr the shield skill is set to 0, so that no arrows get blocked that don't hit the shields hitbox.

In native the phenomenon of higher shield skill is often called "forcefield", since arrows get caught in the shield that didn't even hit it originally, so some mis-position can be covered up by that in other mods. But without this forcefields any inconsistencies get obvious.

Yet another problem is that kite shields would be held yet differently, with the long fist extended towards the tip and the upper arm fixed to the round end, and holding these in the round-shield style would probably look even worse than it does right now.

 

[Mammoet]

Moeck is right in that we cannot change the position of the hand, without messing up a whole lot of other stuff. But we can of course turn the shield around 90° that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Phalanx300]

Maybe the shield can be held lower when blocking? Always looks weird to have shieldwalls without heads showing.

 

[Helge]

lol ) my suggestion was to turn the shield around 90°  ))

 

[Mammoet]

lol ) my suggestion was to turn the shield around 90°  ))

Yeah probably makes more sense that way around. We'll fix it =)

 

[Jean_a_Normandie]

Why not just change the texture?

 

[HannesFury]

Moeck,
He is saying absolutely nothing about actual placement of arm and hand-centrality, but the circular orientation that our round shields are currently misangled at when it comes to their handles towards hands themselves, regardless of forearms resting towards this back portion or hands not being centered to the shield boss and handle.

Consequent to the misunderstanding, what Barbaras pointed out as to what Helge sluggishly attempted trying to illustrate, was the following:



Vikingr .84 current shield orientation, handle is alongside of Yngvalds forearm:

 




The one and only possible physical orientation, handle at a 90° diverging angle of Williams forearm:

This would hopefully clear out any remaining confusion as to what he means to point out.

 

[Halvar]

Wow! Your think about things I never thought of...very nice!

 

[Mammoet]

Why not just change the texture?

That's probably more work, plus the shields have a handle, which is in the model and not just the texture

 

[A_Mustang]

Plus, it would screw up the insignias on the round shields.

 

[Jean_a_Normandie]

I was really just trying to say what Hannes wss.