How does Handcannon work?

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Zhaker

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Where do I am it for best effect, in open field it seems to be a mixed blessing here, unless they are all huddled up together I can get about 1 to 3 kills per shot if I am lucky.

Should I aim on the ground or on the target? Does it affect terrain or splash damage I'm not sure how it works after I picked it up, so far I do more kills in my repeater rifle than I do with the hand cannon :\.

This is on the Warband version 1.131 or 1.132 as well :\.
 
The Hand Cannon has Area of Effect damage, so you need to aim on the ground.
You should easily be able to kill 6-8 enemies once you learn how to aim at a group of pikemen in formation.
It really is an anti-formation weapon. Once the standard bearers are dead, the unorganized rest are no trouble.
 
I thought it would, but it sometimes doesnt which annoys me and I take out 1.

So do I need like 250+ to do this because the shot strays which also affects my shot too, I take it 400 to make it really effective?

The highest I did by sheer luck was 6.

 
Arzeal 说:
take it to a siege defense, you will kill a whole bunch without aiming  :mrgreen:

+1, when everyone is stuck at the bottom of the ladder...a shot of hand cannon will be quite devastating.
 
Sir Gawain 说:
Doesn't the shot go through enemies until it hits the ground?

yes, but that's not how it kills efficiently,  d'sparil explained the mechanics of it to us a long time ago.

In reality, you need to aim at the ground on which your opponents stand, not directly on them.

So aim at the feet of the guy in the centre of a pike formation and the area of effect damage will
cause damage in a certain radius(the damage radius was somewhat changed by Somebody) and you WILL get more than 5 kills frequently.
 
Does it affect where I shoot here? Because:

If I shoot from above I do about at max 4 kills max.
If I shoot from below I do mostly 2 kills max.
If we're even terrain I can take out about 6 at max.

This is on those Frontiersmen who clump up at the start of the map.

But I might be doing something wrong, or that my shot tend to stray even at 280 FireArm skill now :\.

I think Hand Cannon is more situational when fighting on foot rather than on open ground.
 
Zhaker 说:
Does it affect where I shoot here? Because:

If I shoot from above I do about at max 4 kills max.
If I shoot from below I do mostly 2 kills max.
If we're even terrain I can take out about 6 at max.

This is on those Frontiersmen who clump up at the start of the map.

But I might be doing something wrong, or that my shot tend to stray even at 280 FireArm skill now :\.

I think Hand Cannon is more situational when fighting on foot rather than on open ground.

You can fight on horseback, on foot or in sieges, it shouldn't matter, the way it deals damage is the same.
The only thing that's important is that:
a) You opponents are in a tight formation or otherwise clumped together
b) You carefully aim AT THE GROUND, right in the middle of the enemy group.

That b) can be very tricky sometimes, I know.

- In sieges where you are the attacker, aiming from the ladders to the enemies on the walls does not result in too many kills.
This is because, obviously, they have the high ground and you'll have difficulty firing on the ground on which they stand.
BUT, once you're on the walls and you have a clear vision on their spawning point inside the castle, YOU will have high ground and the enemy will spawn in big groups at the same spot. Perfect formula for Hand Cannon slaughtering (if you're not engaging in melee yourself, that is)

- In the open field, I would recommend firing the Hand Cannon from horseback, since that extra height helps you to aim at the ground instead of firing horizontally through the formation. The speed of the horse also makes it safe for you to come closer to have a better aim.
It can be done on foot too, certainly, but it's more risky because if the angle of your aim moves even slightly, it will end up being a perfect horizontal  shot and it will only hit 1 or 2 guys max(unless you are almost in melee range, which makes it easier to judge where it will land on the ground)

The key here, is to be able to judge where your "bullet" will land on the ground.
 
On the note of Handgunners I saw the Troop tree for the Haelmarians and that they have HandGunners (armed with hand cannons). Does anyone know how to recruit them or know how effective they are on the field if there's at least 10 of them?
 
I could be mistaken(if it's changed), but I don't think any troop was equipped with The Hand Cannnon, it's a unique weapon.
 
The Hand Cannon is an unique weapon - but it's the same one used by Ormeli Cannoneer Janissaries, Gunther-Piedmont/Kaiserlicher/Haelmarian Cannoneers. You can't loot it just by defeating those troops. The one you'll get by fighting large battles is the same item though (which, by the way, can't be used on horseback in this version).
Haelmarian cannoneers should show up every month in Sveavald and Oreborg. In the next version they should be there at the start of the game, and show up more frequently. Right now, if you want to test their effectiveness, turn on cheat mode and talk to tavernkeepers.
 
I dont remember you can use the Handcannon on horseback I thought it wouldnt allow you too. Which I thought fair enough if you can do aoe killing.

Also another question in regards to me picking up this elephant gun, is there anything unique besides how accurate and powerful it is i per shot? Can I be able to shoot through targets with this baby?

 
Zhaker 说:
I dont remember you can use the Handcannon on horseback I thought it wouldnt allow you too. Which I thought fair enough if you can do aoe killing.

Also another question in regards to me picking up this elephant gun, is there anything unique besides how accurate and powerful it is i per shot? Can I be able to shoot through targets with this baby?
No, its just an uberaccurate, very powerfull, awfully slow musket.
 
Hrmm, would only be efficient then as a player on horseback then.

Finally got a redeemer and I think its as good as a pistol but with 2 more shots. So besides the HandCannon, ElephantGun, TheRedeemer, 6shot pistol, is there any other uniques you guys seen yet?

 
By other uniques you mean unique firearms?. If you mean that then its no. Elephant Gun, Multishot pistol, Redeemer and Hand Cannon are the only ones.
 
I managed to obtain the "SPEAR OF GOD" in a battle of ~ 950 v 1200 against the Vaegirs with my Lion Throne Character... Appropriately named Odin... after getting that spear i changed the name to Odin God of War :grin:

Ohh... and the Vaegirs were the dudes with the 1200. Was epic on all accounts... I got knocked out in the last minute of the battle because of a god damned stretlet armed with an aquibus! The funny thing was is that after he shot me, he ran away and routed  :neutral:
 
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