How do persuade Lords to join and get Companions to raid?

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Hi there,
im not often posting in the forums, but im a m&b-Fan for several years now.
I started last days again with mount&blade and now im playin this mod. I really like it.

But i dont know how to get a lord of a other faction on my side. I read here, that i can pursue him, if i take him as a prisoner. But when i talk to him in party screen, or in the dungeon of my castle, i just cant say goodbye and not "follow me or die in your cell!".

Also i dont get, how i say to my partymembers that they should start a raid. I lost Achilles, because i said "We need to separate for a while!". lol. I hope i find him again, he was lvl 30. :=)

So, i hope you understand my questioning. And forgive me that crappy english.

with nice regards
Pain
 
Thanks for the compliments.

It's been mentioned a number of times in other threads and I had hoped it was well enough described in the features list.  You cannot ask a companion to create a raiding party unless you have your own kingdom.  In other words you have to be independent from the five factions and own your own town or castle.  Then, when you talk to them from the party screen it should be an option.

As for recruiting a lord, you must have defeated their entire faction and received the notice that pops up telling you that faction has been completely defeated.  Then you throw them in a dungeon and go visit them in that dungeon and you can give them your ultimatum to join or else.  If these options aren't available to you, make sure you have the latest patch installed.
 
How can you defeat their Kingdom when the game script spawns an infinite number of patrols and scouts even if they have no land or active lords?? Not only that, these units are only spawned deep inside other Kingdoms' territories (Rhodok parties spawn as deep as Tulga, the Khergit capital).
 
Patrols, caravans, scouts, etc. do not count towards the well being of the faction.  The only things it looks at are the number of towns and castles owned and the number of lord parties currently active.  If every piece of property is captured and all the lords are defeated there could be 10,000 patrols and the faction would still be defeated.  At which point all those patrols become mercenaries hostile to the player and the other factions.  Usually if it appears there are no towns or castles left, yet the faction still isn't defeated, there is one lord with a small party running around the map trying to hide somewhere.
 
Hmm, I've tried using cheats, true-sight to see all parties, and teleportation around the map. There's 2 lords who were defeated but haven't or couldn't respawn and all that's left are just the scouting and patrol parties. Is there a way to disable these parties once the faction owns no more land?
 
I can promise you those parties are not the cause of an undefeated faction.  If lords have been defeated then they won't count for the defeat either.  The check if the faction is defeated or not occurs only once a day, so if you have defeated all the lords and taken all their land just wait a day and see if it pops up.  Otherwise they could be hiding in a forest or even another faction's town/castle that they weren't at war with.
 
Jinnai 说:
Thanks for the compliments.

It's been mentioned a number of times in other threads and I had hoped it was well enough described in the features list.  You cannot ask a companion to create a raiding party unless you have your own kingdom.  In other words you have to be independent from the five factions and own your own town or castle.  Then, when you talk to them from the party screen it should be an option.
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Thx Jinnai, with the lords i got it.
But with my companions, i dont know. I have a castle. And in Faction-Report, my kingdom is written down. But when i speak with my party-members, the option doesnt turn on. Could you give me a hint?! Which option i should take? "We need to separeta?" "Show me your skills?"


Edit: Maybe i need a town and not a castle?
 
I'm guessing you've never installed any of the mod patches.  Install the one that was released almost 5 days ago.
 
Ich danke dir Jínnai.


I updated it. And when i started back, i got some red alerts, that some things were failed, or stuff like that.  :mrgreen:
After new start of m&b, i got the option for starting raiding partys.
But installed your mod only 2 days ago, so i dont know how i missed the patch. But now all works fine.
Keep on the good work. Your mod is the only one im playin after i started m&b with version 4.


you did good work and your troop tree is very nice. i like a women army.  :mrgreen:

thx for answering so late and if you need, call me a suitable and honourable member of your modproject.

:thumbsup:
 
i see that those swadians have the most strongest patrols damn they are good but how to get my own patrols exscept the companions and do they patrols by themselfs becouse achilles hasn't come out of the castle for 5 (ingame) days
 
At the moment the player kingdom does not get patrols like the other kingdoms, specifically because you CAN hire companions to patrol around for you instead.  Personally, I think the Khergit hordes are far scarier than the Swadian patrols.  :wink:  As for getting him out of the castle, he's hunkered down because he probably has very few troops.  Once companions get up in the 50-100 troops range they should start moving about a lot more often.  Especially if you're at war with someone and they come into your territory or you're right next to their territory.
 
すみませんでも。。。　それは秘密ですよ。

EDIT: Or should I have imitated the ShamWow commercial and said, "Made in Germany, you know the Germans always make good stuff!"
 
Jinnai 说:
At the moment the player kingdom does not get patrols like the other kingdoms, specifically because you CAN hire companions to patrol around for you instead.  Personally, I think the Khergit hordes are far scarier than the Swadian patrols.  :wink:  As for getting him out of the castle, he's hunkered down because he probably has very few troops.  Once companions get up in the 50-100 troops range they should start moving about a lot more often.  Especially if you're at war with someone and they come into your territory or you're right next to their territory.
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so when i am at war with some 1 they will automticly raid (companions) ?
 
Yeah, your companions will automatically raid. I had Deshravi besieging Tihr for me at once point. She had 20 men though, so I think she won't live long :razz:
 
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