How can horse archer kill enemy archers/sharpshooters ?

[kittehs]

I am finally having a lot of fun as a heavily armored horse archer. It is very fun to utterly destroy enemy infantry and cavalry.

The problem is enemy archers, especially higher tier ones like SHARPSHOOTERS and Nord Vet Archer. They utterly own me. The only way to avoid their deadly projectiles is to circle strafe. But it is VERY HARD to hit anything while circling fast enough to avoid incoming arrows/bolts.

How can I kill archers easily while playing as playing as a horse archer ?

I am playing native with full damage on incase someone is wondering.

 

[Armie_knock]

Try to switch to lower tier armor to increase your accuracy and speed. That might help.

Otherwise circle around the enemy at half speed and as soon as you see that someone aims at you, increase to full and ride away to some other place where the enemy is and shoot at them, then return in full speed while moving as a snake.


But the best tip that you can get is : l2aim

 

[Mkhedari]

Lower tier armor improving accuracy only counts in Brytenwalda.  To kill archers, increase your Mounted Archery skill and Archery proficiency.  Practice also really helps.  Circle them at close range and make sure you're perpendicular to them to lessen the odds of getting hit.  Failing all this, get out a shield and charge!  You're a heavy horse archer, my favorite fighting style and probably the deadliest and most versatile. 

 

[malacka07]

How can I kill archers easily while playing as playing as a horse archer ?

Practice.

 

[kittehs]

I am playing a level 35 character with 8 in p.d and h.a so he already has perfect reticle no fast he going. Problem is my aim with the bow sucks despite being a decent FPS gamer. :p


Do you people aim from first person while doing Horse Archery ? What about zooming in ? I find that zooming in sometimes makes things worse as slighest bumps will throw off the aim !

 

[Armie_knock]

Lower tier armor improving accuracy only counts in Brytenwalda. 

No.

I am playing a level 35 character with 8 in p.d and h.a so he already has perfect reticle no fast he going. Problem is my aim with the bow sucks despite being a decent FPS gamer. :p


Do you people aim from first person while doing Horse Archery ? What about zooming in ? I find that zooming in sometimes makes things worse as slighest bumps will throw off the aim !

I never aim in first person when using horse archery. Zooming in as a moving horse archer is pretty dumb to. It is really just about practice if you already got PW.D and H.A at a high level.

 

[malacka07]

Same here. I never use the first person view and zoom only the really long range shots.

But there is a trick what I often do. When I run against place holding sharpies or top archers I place my companions (any well armored units can work) not to far and while the retards are busy with the bait I can get down them one by one. Mostly

 

[RalliX]

Lower tier armor improving accuracy only counts in Brytenwalda. 

No.

You're both wrong.
There are several mods which limit your abilities when wearing heavy armour.
Native however, and most mods in general, do not.

 

[Armie_knock]

Lower tier armor improving accuracy only counts in Brytenwalda. 

No.

You're both wrong.
There are several mods which limit your abilities when wearing heavy armour.
Native however, and most mods in general, do not.

I was only wrong 50 % then  To much cRpg 

 

[bakters]

Horse archery physics is broken in the game, because it does not take into account the speed of the archer himself.  It calculates the trajectory of an arrow as if it was launched from a stationary position, and that may be what makes it so difficult for you to aim while moving perpendicularly to the target.  Just remember, that the arrow will go exactly where the reticle points at while shooting, not where your intuition tells you it should go.

Basically, do not trail stationary targets, shoot straight at them, no matter how fast you go.  And you must lead every moving target, even if it moves slower than you and your intuition tells you to trail him.  Stupid, but that's how it goes.  And judging by other bugs, it will never be fixed.

 

[Mkhedari]

Horse archery physics is broken in the game, because it does not take into account the speed of the archer himself.  It calculates the trajectory of an arrow as if it was launched from a stationary position, and that may be what makes it so difficult for you to aim while moving perpendicularly to the target.  Just remember, that the arrow will go exactly where the reticle points at while shooting, not where your intuition tells you it should go.

Basically, do not trail stationary targets, shoot straight at them, no matter how fast you go.  And you must lead every moving target, even if it moves slower than you and your intuition tells you to trail him.  Stupid, but that's how it goes.  And judging by other bugs, it will never be fixed.

Really?  I never noticed that, and I thought I read they fixed that in Warband.

 

[bakters]

There is something going on as far as calculating damage, but it's very simplistic.  Trajectory itself is not affected by the movement of the archer.  Check it out for yourself.

 

[argyre]

Argh! I experienced this, but couldn't figure out what was going on or why I was constantly missing everything while on horseback, figured I was just a terrible shot and gave up on using archery in the field because of it.

 

[Ivan Khan]

How can I kill archers easily while playing as playing as a horse archer ?

Practice.

I Agree. I do not share your problem. Other ideas though are to pull off to a distance where you can slow or stop and kill as they are unlikely to hit you. Or, partially hid behind trees or other cover.

Also, if your accuracy is off, maybe you have too much bow. If your bow requires PD 8 and you have PD 8 your accuracy will suffer, drop to a bow with PD 6 and you will find you hit much easier.

 

[Sven-Mjolnir]

its just about practice really, with time you can become an unstopable killing maching

 

[Farthing]

archery takes practice.  Just keep at it.  When I get in the zone I can hit anybody anywhere. 

 

[annallia]

Horse archery physics is broken in the game, because it does not take into account the speed of the archer himself.  It calculates the trajectory of an arrow as if it was launched from a stationary position, and that may be what makes it so difficult for you to aim while moving perpendicularly to the target.  Just remember, that the arrow will go exactly where the reticle points at while shooting, not where your intuition tells you it should go.

Basically, do not trail stationary targets, shoot straight at them, no matter how fast you go.  And you must lead every moving target, even if it moves slower than you and your intuition tells you to trail him.  Stupid, but that's how it goes.  And judging by other bugs, it will never be fixed.

I still aim just a bit before them. It is not because I expect the arrow to trail because of my speed, I know it goes straight, but rather a question of reflexes. I could aim dead at the guy sure but by the time I release the button if I am dead center on him when I think shoot I will have my arrow whiz just behind his head. Meanwhile if I aim just slightly infront of him it will peg him in the eye.

 

[bakters]

That's fine, though.  Where aiming becomes really difficult for me, is when I shoot against other archers, who tend to be on an agile horse, and constantly change their movement pattern.  In first person view it's probably less confusing, as you have much less clear idea of your own movement, but that's why I use third person view.  After all, it's better to miss and live then otherwise.
 

 

[bakters]

Argh! I experienced this, but couldn't figure out what was going on or why I was constantly missing everything while on horseback, figured I was just a terrible shot and gave up on using archery in the field because of it.

Strange thing is, that if you ask people how these things should go, many if not most would give the wrong answer, yet while actually doing stuff their intuition makes them react properly, so in the end they get frustrated.

I'm not saying you do not understand how to add velocities, just that despite the fact that most gamers do not, it doesn't mean their intuition doesn't too, so it should be fixed, because it's a game spoiling bug.

 

[malacka07]

I guess you are overestimating the playerz
Most of us are plying like this:
"dumdum-dumdidum...riding...riding...heh, there is an enemy over there, I will kill u, bastard!...ok, aim...aim...bang! oh my...missed, ok I adjust... bang! missed again...adjust more..Thats it!"

Mostly Im joking but imo experience is the thing what leads our hands not only intuition or mathematical calculations.
On the other hand it seems your're right about the stationary thing, I've tried to test and as I can see only the targets moving counts.