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How about spliting a battle into two battles? for battlesize limit wise
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Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
I had a bug with a battle size limit mod that made this happen with large battles, it actually felt a lot better. None of the running back and forth with reinforcements trickling in.
That, or change battle to have dynamic spawning points through zones of control. That would be my ideal, but multiple skirmishes would be a lot better than what we currently have with the static respawn points.
STcloz
Sergeant
I used that mod too, but now it hasn't been updated for 1.5.7.
Yes, a better idea.
Philozoraptor
Sergeant
Spawn points are right now manually defined on every map, new maps can be created but original maps cannot be accesed and edited right now (at least to my knowledge) so this spawn points cannot be edited. Also these spawn points are more of a spawn lines, spawn position on the line is defined by battle size.
I think that'd be a fair option, better than the current system where if you are defending all you need to do is win the first few waves then the following waves retreat as soon as they spawn in. Would also alleviate the issue of huge battles, archers become a waste of space because they run out of arrows, i'd love somewhere on the battlefield a stockpile where archers can re-arm
I'd rather see an entirely new approach to the truly MASSIVE battles we see in Bannerlord.
When the army sizes exceed the battle limit, you should be able to select the troops the army will deploy according to how many you can take (I'm not sure what governs it in Bannerlord it was the tactics skill in Warband). Then the battle plays out like any other battle does. At the end of the battle, the armies can then both either start a new fight, or one of them can withdraw.
So for example, Khuzait's army of 2k catches and prompts a battle with Aserai's army of 1.5k. Both sides select their strongest troops for the first and most decisive clash. After that battle, the AI/player can weigh up it's losses(If they got hammered without many kills to the enemy then they would naturally withdraw), how much of the army left is as a percentage of their factions strength/the enemies army in comparison to their overall strength(Is it worth a further fight if this is only one half of the enemies might and this is all of ours?), and decide to prompt a new battle or withdraw.
Reinforcements didn't work great in Warband and they made it worse in Bannerlord IMO. Battles of this size should feel like a proper battle, multiple days of fighting and encounters, not a random skirmish with people spawning into the middle of it.
When the army sizes exceed the battle limit, you should be able to select the troops the army will deploy according to how many you can take (I'm not sure what governs it in Bannerlord it was the tactics skill in Warband). Then the battle plays out like any other battle does. At the end of the battle, the armies can then both either start a new fight, or one of them can withdraw.
So for example, Khuzait's army of 2k catches and prompts a battle with Aserai's army of 1.5k. Both sides select their strongest troops for the first and most decisive clash. After that battle, the AI/player can weigh up it's losses(If they got hammered without many kills to the enemy then they would naturally withdraw), how much of the army left is as a percentage of their factions strength/the enemies army in comparison to their overall strength(Is it worth a further fight if this is only one half of the enemies might and this is all of ours?), and decide to prompt a new battle or withdraw.
Reinforcements didn't work great in Warband and they made it worse in Bannerlord IMO. Battles of this size should feel like a proper battle, multiple days of fighting and encounters, not a random skirmish with people spawning into the middle of it.
STcloz
Sergeant
So, another code refactoring? LOL
The worst is when the player is the attacker the enermy pull back to the map edge and their reinforcements generate at your back.
Separate the troop into the main force and the reserve. After the first battle, the winner has the choice whether to pursue the enermy. It seems like warband as the warband battle is devided into several stages. But there are not reinforcements in your idea. I like that. No reinforcements!
Both participants have to have a choice to withdraw, otherwise players can go around baiting in massive armies and demolishing them with a high tier but low number force.
This is the best reinforcement suggestion I've seen yet.
Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
I really like this idea. The unit selection thing shouldn't be all that difficult as a version is already in the game before hideout battles.
There was a mod which did this. They'd behave as their own group under AI command, separate from the rest of your army until they reached the main body and merged with your groups. So something like this is definitely possible.
Or the one from bandit hideouts
It's not really indepth enough IMO, would be hard to see the 500 or so people at once from that screen.Or the one from bandit hideouts
wich Mod was taht?
sounds like a very good idea. Multiple battles would honestly be really fun.
I really like this idea. Gives it more of a tactical approach instead of the braindead trickle charges.
Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
Bannerlord Tweaks - Update
A non-developer's update for Mipen's Bannerlord Tweaks mod which stopped working after the 1.4.3 update, and extended with tweaks I find useful. Feel free to use it and best of luck.Update
www.nexusmods.com
