what are we supposed to use, harsh language?!!!
I feel the problem with cav in siege being just a swarm is an issue separate from cav menavlion
With the menavlion we agree, however with the glaive of khuzait (lancer) due to its historical background, both for its implementation in Warband and its real and totally plausible use throughout history, I would preserve it as "unique/faction" weapon (applying the restrictions previously mentioned).glaives and menavlions on horseback must go directly to the trashcan, they break game balance in captain mode aswell
+its fine with glaive its high risk-reward as you wont have a shield when swinging, cake for archers and throwing spears, menavlion on horseback needs to go or it should be nerfed to the point where it deals the same damage as a twig and only deal around 50 damage to unarmored with full speed bonus, because its a 130 gold unit and can be spammed so easily
If menavlion is so useless in your favorite Skirmish mode... Why keep it then? Dont you want some actually good perk in that place instead? I though i stated that clear in start of a thread, this perk is both awful on TDM and Siege (OP and low skill required) and on Skirmish (useless waste of perk)Who cares about menavlion, only like 5 kiddies in TDM/Siege run around with it and farm kills, useless kills at least for siege since they don't really contribute much to the tide of the battle... Skirmish it is fairly useless since there are actually skilled players who punish lack of a shield. Let the kiddies have their fun. Sad!
Yeah but your suggestion to replace it with a bow perk is also kind of stupid because horse archers are very niche and somewhat useless in skirmish mode as well.I though i stated that clear in start of a thread, this perk is both awful on TDM and Siege (OP and low skill required) and on Skirmish (useless waste of perk)
You claim that menavlion has little effect in siege, and I'm arguing that it does. Not entirely singel handedly, but in combination with the fact that some maps get swarmed, it definitly has a combined effect.I feel the problem with cav in siege being just a swarm is an issue separate from cav menavlion
I don't think upping the price is going to work, because farming kills with menav cav is so easy that a price difference is easily overcome.As I see it, there is the solution that more than one has commented about, which is to increase the price of cavalry units by favouring the use of melee and ranged units. I mean really, who the hell would take a horse to a siege?
However there is a problem (as I see it) which will not be in the eyes of the devs as they will probably find it amusing or that creates a fun. I'm talking about the animations.
Again, in Warband if you chose for example a 2h long axe being a huscarl and for whatever reason you took a horse, the swing animation offered by the axe on foot disappears as an option only allowing 1h thrusts as if it were a spear.
If you took that kind of penalty to Bannerlord I think it would cut down on the disproportionate polearm party hard usage on horseback. I would only allow the glaive khuzait (with a reduced size) as the only weapon that allows that kind of animations on horseback; as I said before.
Well, if you ask me, Siege mode would have the cavalry units blocked .[...]
I don't think upping the price is going to work, because farming kills with menav cav is so easy that a price difference is easily overcome.
The second suggestion i like
Clearly, we need to return to the glory days of horse archery. All factions except Vlandia have one (Unless ... hand crossbow?) and they can actually shoot while moving.Yeah but your suggestion to replace it with a bow perk is also kind of stupid because horse archers are very niche and somewhat useless in skirmish mode as well.
BooooLOL sad. Don't poke devs about your mangina leaks. Grow up a bit and stop crying. Adapt and overcome your play.
Yesterday I was on TDM for a good 30 minutes and I witnessed something very expected. Literally everyone few minutes there would be a toxic dude calling someone else a: menalvion mother****er or other insults. The menavlion on horseback makes people super toxic and besides that it takes 0 skill.+1