History of Calradia

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As the title indicates, this thread is for discussion about the history of Calradia.

One of the first thing I would like to pin down is, where did the Veagirs come from? I've heard that they were Swadain peasants that revolted, but I haven't read anywhere in-game to indicate that this is so.

 
Yeah, Vaegirs were Swadians, but they got bored of the oppressive king and left. If I remember correctly, it says that when you start playing M&B (I don't have access to it right now, so I can't confirm it)

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Dark ages of calradia gives an interesting history. But I don't know if it's correct.
 
I just started a game in both .751 and .808 and in nether did it say anything about why they're fighting.
 
My understanding is that Vaegirs ruled all of Calradia, and then the what we now call Swadians came in and took over the western half, if the north was the Trirumvirate ocean, forcing the Vaegir to move their HQ to Reyvadin.

I have an explanation for Zendar being neutral. Although, yes, it is now neutral because it keeps the economy of both sides running (just where do you think they get all of the weapons? by trading tools and stuff!), did they attack it before? Yes indeed! Since it is one of the cities on the halfway point between Swadia and the Vaegir, they were constantly attacking it, and was always changing hands.Of course the Vaegirs had the advantage in holding it because it was on THEIR side of the river, but the Swadians, with Praven being close enough, could just make a sortie and capture it. Fact of the matter is, is that it was ransacked so many times, it became nothing more then a pile of rubble. It was utterly useless now to any of the armies who were to besiege it, and was possible just a death trap. So, it was abandoned. Then, refugees from both sides decided to make it their city, and many people came and rebuilt it. They built up their own militia, and declared themselves neutral. They elected Arrasies as Count, because he was one of the first to come and rebuild, and was known to be quite handy with a weapon in a pinch. He secretly stole Army weapons, and built very high walls, so that in the inevitability of an attack, they could defend it. And attacked it was. Both Swadians and Vaegirs tried to conquer it, but by this time the city had quite a large force for one city, and being on the crest of a hill, was giving it's defenders an added defense bonus. Attacked it was, but the attackers failed time and time again. Count Arrasies and his men killed many good soldiers from both sides, and claimed self defence, whilst plundering the dead of good weapons and armor. So, the two side coincidentally agreed that Zendar should remain neutral. And then, Count Arrasies created a port for trading ships, and now it is the Zendar we know today, where many people from many nations come and trade their goods.
 
The Vaegirs indeed revolted against the Swadians. I believe the lords say that.
 
I'm confused, there appears to be two histories. One is that Vaegirs revolted from the Swadians, the other is that Vaegirs were native and swadians invaded....I suppose the first one makes more sense cause calraidia is surrounded by mountains (atm), but what of the khergits?

AgentSword - How do you explain the prominence of swadian culture in zendar? Almost all of their troops are decendent of swadian armies.
 
Raz 说:
The Vaegirs indeed revolted against the Swadians. I believe the lords say that.

I haven't seen it. can you say exactly who says it?
 
Rathyr 说:
I am not sure, but I believe I may have heard that the Swadians were the first to live in Calaradia, and the Vaegirs lived in a land to the north (Across the ocean somewhere), and that the Swadians took the Vaegirs as slaves. The Vaegirs then revolted.

It seem that no one knows for sure...I've heard two or three different ways at least. maybe someone will come across some actual proof i.e, something Armagan wrote.

By the way, thanks for making this thread; I was hoping for something like this.

Me too :smile:
 
Chilly5 说:
AgentSword - How do you explain the prominence of swadian culture in zendar? Almost all of their troops are decendent of swadian armies.
First off, how can you be sure of that?
If it is true, maybe the clothing and such was more esthetically pleasing, plus there were many Swadian refugees that fled there, and the Vaegirs were in the minority. Although, I must add, Zendar comprises of Harlaushians, Geroians, Dalicians, and many other nations across the Trirumvirate Ocean as well.

You know, if what you say is true, this woulddestroy my theory about how Calradia came to be at the present time (with the Vaegirs invading and all. If there were lots of Swadian refugees, then it would have had to be the peasant revolt theory, and the Loyalists (as we shall call them) would have had to flee.
 
HolyWind 说:
where did you guys get all of this?
i dont see it in game...

I'm wondering the vary same thing :razz: but no-one seems to know where any of it came from.
 
Most of "Calraidian history" comes from what story mod or DAoC made up...but we have no better source (and if armagan just tells us, wheres the fun in that?) so I say continue debating!
 
Chilly5 说:
Most of "Calraidian history" comes from what story mod or DAoC made up...but we have no better source (and if armagan just tells us, wheres the fun in that?) so I say continue debating!

I'll drink to that.

I hope that one day, the game map will compose of more then Calradia, and those names listed earlier would seem to be the front runners for surrounding nations. Who knows: maybe Calradia will get some more cities, hm?
 
Harlaushians? that is one ugly name for a nation!  :neutral:
Someone said in another thread that there was originally a file in version 0.6xx that told a bit of the story, but it just said that the vaegirs revolted and conquered some cities from their swadians lords IIRC.
 
'Ressing' the topic. :smile:

There is another important thing I want to know, and that is: what about the timeline? does it start at 0 and we are now at 1153 AD? I've seen someone's time line...don't remember where or when though. :smile: but I don't think there is anything from Amagam his-self. 
 
Chilly5 说:
I'm confused, there appears to be two histories. One is that Vaegirs revolted from the Swadians, the other is that Vaegirs were native and swadians invaded....I suppose the first one makes more sense cause calraidia is surrounded by mountains (atm), but what of the khergits?

AgentSword - How do you explain the prominence of swadian culture in zendar? Almost all of their troops are decendent of swadian armies.


khergits must be the original population, who lived before Calradia was invaded by Swadians like 200 years before. Theres always an invasion by better tribes, i.e. the Barbarian Invasions of the 3rd-6/7 th century in europe.  Since then they have been at war. Then the Vaegirs revolted. maybe they'tr swadianised khergit slaves/descendants of khergit slaves.  but this doesnt explain the dark knights.

where did you guys get all of this?
i dont see it in game...

This is pure theory out of European History in the 1st millenium AD
 
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