Outremer
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The 12th century is my favorite period. I have absolutely no artistic skill, but I'm decent when it comes to research. I've collected a small group of pics depicting arms and armour as they existed in the 12th century. I would love to help in any capacity to see this period accurately represented within the game. The Angevin vs Capetian, Hohenstaufen vs Welfs & Papacy, the 2nd & 3rd Crusade, along with the baronic in-fighting in Outremer and similar squabbling within the Muslim world would all come together to make for a fantastic historically based mod.
I've collected these photos in the last half-hour to show how a western European solider (knights and sergeants represented) would have appeared between 1150 and 1200. Hopefully someone will be inspired to begin modeling.
This pic is of a knight in 1170. Note that his chainmail coif does not end under his chin, but rather continues with attached ventail up to his nose. You see this everywhere in contemporary, in-situ art but you never see it done properly in the media..games or otherwise:
Again, the same thing. This time from around 1160. It would have been worn in this fashion, however, well into the 13th century:
The Germans often took it a step further, covering the entire face except for the eyes. The first picture you will see an artist's accurate representation of a German knight around the end of the 12th century, and the second pic will show how this is supported archaeologically:
As you've probably noticed, the nasal-helm was still quite popular during this period. The Germans again liked to experiment with this and produced other variants which were widely copied in parts of France and the Angevin Empire:
Around 1180, however, the early "Great helms" began to appear. For our period the face-plated great helm was very popular among the richer knights. It would later develop into the Sugarloaf helm, through various manifestations. The following picture shows a rich knight circa 1280-1290 on the right, with a poorer knight using antiquated but still popular and effective gear on the left:
Note the difference in shield types also, in that above picture. The one on the left was typically used by infantry, being longer.
Indeed that shield type was very popular for knights as well during the period of rebellion in the Angevin Empire:
And here you see what a sergeant may have looked like during the 1190s, but this type of shield was worn only by the elite 50 years earlier:
To repeat myself...ventail covering the mouth = historically accurate. Knights would not have rode into battle with the lower portion of their face exposed.
Its 4:30am and I need to sleep, so I'll finish up quickly with a picture of hilt-types typical of the mid-late 12th century:
Anyways, like I said, I hope this idea inspires some people to invest their incredible artistic talent into this period...
I've collected these photos in the last half-hour to show how a western European solider (knights and sergeants represented) would have appeared between 1150 and 1200. Hopefully someone will be inspired to begin modeling.
This pic is of a knight in 1170. Note that his chainmail coif does not end under his chin, but rather continues with attached ventail up to his nose. You see this everywhere in contemporary, in-situ art but you never see it done properly in the media..games or otherwise:
Again, the same thing. This time from around 1160. It would have been worn in this fashion, however, well into the 13th century:
The Germans often took it a step further, covering the entire face except for the eyes. The first picture you will see an artist's accurate representation of a German knight around the end of the 12th century, and the second pic will show how this is supported archaeologically:
As you've probably noticed, the nasal-helm was still quite popular during this period. The Germans again liked to experiment with this and produced other variants which were widely copied in parts of France and the Angevin Empire:
Around 1180, however, the early "Great helms" began to appear. For our period the face-plated great helm was very popular among the richer knights. It would later develop into the Sugarloaf helm, through various manifestations. The following picture shows a rich knight circa 1280-1290 on the right, with a poorer knight using antiquated but still popular and effective gear on the left:
Note the difference in shield types also, in that above picture. The one on the left was typically used by infantry, being longer.
Indeed that shield type was very popular for knights as well during the period of rebellion in the Angevin Empire:
And here you see what a sergeant may have looked like during the 1190s, but this type of shield was worn only by the elite 50 years earlier:
To repeat myself...ventail covering the mouth = historically accurate. Knights would not have rode into battle with the lower portion of their face exposed.
Its 4:30am and I need to sleep, so I'll finish up quickly with a picture of hilt-types typical of the mid-late 12th century:
Anyways, like I said, I hope this idea inspires some people to invest their incredible artistic talent into this period...