Heroes in combat?

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Mikemcn

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I was wondering, what should you tell your heroes to do when you are fighting alongside them, without an army?

For example if you have 50 sea raiders, and you don't want Alayen or somebody to dive in their and get surrounded, should you have them follow you? Or should you just let them charge and then try an break up the big groups, my reason for asking this is i have seen videos of people slaying massive amounts of enemies with only a few companions and no one else, but every time me and my companions try and fight off even a modest size group, we get slaughtered.

I'm at level 30 and my best companion, Alayen, is at 25, and I have trouble keeping him alive even against only 50 or so men. So I'm just wondering what you guys think is the best way to bring a hero into combat against superior numbers.
 
Get your heroes on some horses. Make your infantry charge straight at your enemy, while you put your archers close loosing away  thier arrows at them. While you and your heroes ( on horses ) come around from behind the enemy slaughtering alot of them. Then when thier horse goes down they can still kill.
 
I think you misunderstand HAbasta, I think Mikemcn ask how its possible to defeat 50 sea raiders with only you and a few companions.

On easy settings I would be able to take out 50 sea raiders on my own, how ever on hard settings its a bit more difficult (some people could of course do it, but they are damn good players).

The whole idea on how to defeat them is micromanaging.

I cant give you a recipe however.
 
Oh, please forgive me. Well mainly I just get them a horse, in my opinion a horse helps alot when only you and some heroes are fighting against overwhelming numbers.
 
You were forgiven before you even wrote the post : )

And yes, the Horse is really powerful in M&B.

If you want your companions to endure you should give them a horse, and sword/axe, a shield and a lance. Or a Sword/axe, shield, bow and arrow, a sword/axe shield and throwing weapon, or basically anything along with a horse.

The horse is important, and if I get a companion that are not able to ride a horse I make sure that the first level he gets (or first 2, 3, 4) go to "Riding".

Of course, when you evolve into a better player you could start not using cavalry, however, this is rather hard.

So, at the start, make sure that all your companions (heroes) ride a horse. This will make them endure longer, get more kills, and jump through the levels faster.

(I generally tend to train my companions into having a horse, a two handed sword and bow & arrow)
 
stygN said:
You were forgiven before you even wrote the post : )

And yes, the Horse is really powerful in M&B.

If you want your companions to endure you should give them a horse, and sword/axe, a shield and a lance. Or a Sword/axe, shield, bow and arrow, a sword/axe shield and throwing weapon, or basically anything along with a horse.

The horse is important, and if I get a companion that are not able to ride a horse I make sure that the first level he gets (or first 2, 3, 4) go to "Riding".

Of course, when you evolve into a better player you could start not using cavalry, however, this is rather hard.

So, at the start, make sure that all your companions (heroes) ride a horse. This will make them endure longer, get more kills, and jump through the levels faster.

(I generally tend to train my companions into having a horse, a two handed sword and bow & arrow)
This was exactly what I was gonna say just couldn't think of the words having a brain fart right now.  :???:
 
You are thinking mainly Rhodoks, right? Well... In that case I guess you'd have to act as a decoy while your troops fire at their backs..
 
The trick to using small cavalry squads against infantry is to break away and regroup periodically. The AI won't automatically ride off to charge again, preferring to stand toe-to-toe flailing at each other. You could try giving them only ranged weaponry. That way they run over a few guys, then retreat firing over their shoulders and do it again. Parthian shots FTW, even against those huge shields (the shields break before your men run out of arrows, and they tend to die once somebody gets a lucky shot at the knee, since you can't block while reeling in pain).
 
I've found that poleaxes are very good weapons for companions.  They can be couched on horseback, and you can always tell a companion in the thick of battle because these are easy to spot.  If they get unhorsed, the poleaxe has excellent range and does good damage.  In sieges, same.  I don't like having to swap their weapons around, or deal with them switching to a second weapon when I want them lancing, so I give them a poleaxe, steel shield (which also makes then easy to identify in the thick of battle), heavy armor and a good horse (Warhorse usually, for a balance of hps, armor, charge, and decent speed).  They do great like this, and it allows me to pour all their weapon points into polearms.  The only exception is the Khergit guy, who is my Looting expert.  Since maxing the Looting party skill requires a very high Agility, I make him into a Horse Archer, and give him a Balanced Heavy Bastard Sword as a backup weapon.

The nine of us can easily take a band of forty or so sea raiders.  I have them follow, move into a good position and then have them spread out and hold while I shoot many as they approach.  I then order them to follow me to a new position and repeat until I've killed off about a third.  Then I have them follow me and lead them in a figure eight pattern through the center of the enemy group repeatedly until the enemy is down to a third or less of their original numbers.  Then I just issue a charge and let my team clean up.  Works pretty well.

Granted, they're all high level (around 30) and have excellent armor at this point.
 
Thanks for the help everyone! I'll try some of your ideas out, i think i'll get all my companions better horses, that sounds like a start
 
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