Hard times

[UltimateCommander97]

We know everyone has hard times while being a lord, included me.
I'm the current ruler of Cez and it's villages , two of them are controlled by my vassals, I've taken another castle near Cez in the river (village included of course) and the Savador castle( it is far from Cez) Now I have a problem, my vassals are like spreading out in Pendor losing every battle while D'shar are coming and trying to raid my fiefs, problem is battles were easy for me, now even when they have 40 men I end up losing a few soldiers, any suggestions?

 

[pappej]

DEAL WITH IT! 

 

[UltimateCommander97]

DEAL WITH IT! 

Thanks for the reply lol, it's the best I can do 

 

[freyuk]

Currently King of Pendor, with Javiksholm, Windholm and Ironoak castle as personal fiefs with associated villages, 2 Lords with Falcondark and Mystmire Castle. At war with Ravenstern as I just rebelled, D'Shar for some reason declared war on me too and Sarleon just joined the Party. Try to hit parties with prisioners or they will bleed you dry. Focus in intercepting Lords before they join forces and as last resort jail them, at the moment I am just ignoring my 2 Lords and villages and focusing on not losing any of the Castles and Cities. Still on top but if Fiersdvain or Empire join the fray I will be in big trouble.

 

[Mad Vader]

You guys seem to be hogging the fiefs too much, you need vassal lords in numbers.

 

[_Cooper_]

I hog fiefs (i own cez,ethos, Janos, almerra castle and walven castle. Along witha few villages.) But i still give them 2-4 fiefs (3 vassals). And it works fine

 

[UltimateCommander97]

Next time I don't take a castle far from the town, vassal are useless, they get defeated and they get negative relations? What!?
I'm theo ne who hould be angry at them, the only thing they can do is going to the Empire castles and have fun with other lords.

 

[bobknight]

You guys seem to be hogging the fiefs too much, you need vassal lords in numbers.

Lords are for sissy men who can't fight battles on their own.

 

[burnbaby]

vassal are useless,

Lol no, just be a marshall and/or tell them to follow you. Imagine you have now 1000 man party, when you defeat first 1500-2000 warband raid you can conquer half of the enemy fiefs if you rush and game is over :>

 

[Ansiktslos]

Get more vassals, and try to get good ones - with household elite troops, with high renown, martial lords. In worst case just pick all honorable lords you can get, they don't argue and give your kingdom extra weight. Once you are able to gather a huge host, you will steamroll anybody.

I always face the fact that my first vassals get pwned one by one, but when my kingdom grows bigger, this problem is solved.

 

[CrymsonChaos]

I generally have no more than two villages, a castle, and a town, and I do fine.  It keeps income steady.  I also concentrate my lands.  I don't spread around trying to capture the easy targets.  I'd rather have a bloody siege that I win and can easily defend later than have to cover half the bloody map in order to protect a castle.  For instance, my usual first attack is Fierdsvain lands, because face it.  They're always trying to kill something, so I'm not their major concern.... until it's too late. 

Vassal wise, I make 8 of the companions lords (Boads, Jocelyn, Freddy, etc.) and they receive castles, towns and the like at first, so they're my most powerful by the endgame.  Then I enlist other lords, the ones that flee whoever they are sworn to, or I recruit them, because they're more expendable and I don't care about their loyalty unless they have some powerful household troop, or I just like them.

 

[UltimateCommander97]

You guys seem to be hogging the fiefs too much, you need vassal lords in numbers.

Lords are for sissy men who can't fight battles on their own.

Then tell me, can you conquer all Pendor without vassals? can you conquer Pendor with only your army? I don't think so.

Despite this yeah, I need to choose the right lords, but it's strange, I have a singalian as a vassal, a knight of the dawn, a woman who hates the snake cult, a commander, an archer, another knight and the noldor assassin, oh and the veccavia banished queen.

 

[Hatchet]

Then tell me, can you conquer all Pendor without vassals? can you conquer Pendor with only your army? I don't think so.

Perfect! I was looking for inspiration for my next playthrough, give me 30 days and I will have an answer. Tell my boss I won't be at work this month.

To give you some advice, I would send my lords to town or castle for 30 days, while I focused on capturing-releasing-turning some of the better lords in my enemy faction. Once I had 10ish lords I would set the highest reknown one to marshal, and focus on turning a few more lords over. If I ran out of fifes to assign I would bring my lords out on campaign and grab a few more castles. I'm sure there are other ways of getting through the first war with a new Kingdom, but that's how I like to do things.

 

[DarkTemplar]

conquering pendor alone is possible only in the newest version, capture all lords of enemy faction, dump as much soldiers as you can to your mercenary company and make them follow you to conquer all there is to conquer
the mid game will be extremely long though

to the main topic:
lord party of 40 men is doable alone  or order your companions to charge with you
to survive hard times you have to garrison all your fiefs, forget about raided villages, castles and cities are much more important, replace marshal, start new campaign when someone is besieging anything, get as much soldiers as you can in your party, archers/infantry preferred(no dervishes!!!!), hire mercenaries, camp near the besieged castle, when the fun begins join and show them how the true ruler of pendor fights!
after few sieges they should offer you peace, in spare time you must increase your right to rule, 60 is good enough, this way you should prevent factions joining war against you,

 

[freyuk]

You guys seem to be hogging the fiefs too much, you need vassal lords in numbers.

Well I normally have some Lords on standby for when I declare my Kingdom, but this time I blame you guys, actually it was all your fault, I was best friend and loyal vassal to King Gregory, with IronOak and Falcondark castles as my fiefs, I was the Defender of the North guarding the passes to Ravenstern, Commander of the Black Wolf Troop and Grandmaster (honorary) of the White Fang order of Knights, and friends with the most important Lords, For the Glory of Ravenstern I occupied the city of Windholm, and the Castle of Mystmire, that my King Gregory, god bless his Roundeness, graciously conceded to me. But then Koningur Valdis, that bald swine, was giving me a hard time, so I decided to relocate him further up the map. I knew it was too much when I conquered Javiksholm to ask for it, but is a capital and there is a chest with things on it, so when his Roundeness denied me the City I had to rebel...

Ach the shame of it!

 

[UltimateCommander97]

conquering pendor alone is possible only in the newest version, capture all lords of enemy faction, dump as much soldiers as you can to your mercenary company and make them follow you to conquer all there is to conquer
the mid game will be extremely long though

to the main topic:
lord party of 40 men is doable alone  or order your companions to charge with you
to survive hard times you have to garrison all your fiefs, forget about raided villages, castles and cities are much more important, replace marshal, start new campaign when someone is besieging anything, get as much soldiers as you can in your party, archers/infantry preferred(no dervishes!!!!), hire mercenaries, camp near the besieged castle, when the fun begins join and show them how the true ruler of pendor fights!
after few sieges they should offer you peace, in spare time you must increase your right to rule, 60 is good enough, this way you should prevent factions joining war against you,

Nice, but I'm afraid if I give the marshal title to a vassal it will take forever to attack, I did this by error and had to reload the near saved game because kingdom of sarleon was taking my fiefs while my vassals didn't anything.

 

[DarkTemplar]

隐藏

conquering pendor alone is possible only in the newest version, capture all lords of enemy faction, dump as much soldiers as you can to your mercenary company and make them follow you to conquer all there is to conquer
the mid game will be extremely long though

to the main topic:
lord party of 40 men is doable alone  or order your companions to charge with you
to survive hard times you have to garrison all your fiefs, forget about raided villages, castles and cities are much more important, replace marshal, start new campaign when someone is besieging anything, get as much soldiers as you can in your party, archers/infantry preferred(no dervishes!!!!), hire mercenaries, camp near the besieged castle, when the fun begins join and show them how the true ruler of pendor fights!
after few sieges they should offer you peace, in spare time you must increase your right to rule, 60 is good enough, this way you should prevent factions joining war against you,

Nice, but I'm afraid if I give the marshal title to a vassal it will take forever to attack, I did this by error and had to reload the near saved game because kingdom of sarleon was taking my fiefs while my vassals didn't anything.

make yourself marshal, this way you can use your superior brain to determine whether or not you can engage and win
i think you should be able to defend almost any fief with about 600men against 2k+ enemies at normal dmg to friends etc, with battle size of 400 and less

 

[LevonVeldspar]

I always remain marshal permanently in my kingdoms. Dumbass M&B AI behaviour aside, giving vassals the marshalship runs the risk of opening up a political can of worms as your lords start to squabble over who should be in charge. They start getting pissed off when you grant their rivals fiefs when they didn't before. It can only weaken you and there are no real benefits. Don't do it man!!

 

[Hatchet]

Every time you change marshal you gain 5 relationship points with that lord, and +/- a few points with his friends and enemies. Time spent as marshall seems to add to a lords reknown, and High reknown lords are good. My army, my merc band, and another lord I like can go in one direction and run a campaign, while my marshall can run another, forcing the enemy to fight on 2 fronts, which it isn't good at. I agree there are some draw backs, but "no real benefit" isn't true. Making a lord Marshall twice takes 9 days, and has the same effect on relationship as granting him a fife...

 

[LevonVeldspar]

Hmmmm yeah, I suppose you're right. I guess I've just seen too much of Warband's AI in action to ever be comfortable leaving it to its own devices...