Grenades & Grenadiers - Your Views

[Mabons]

But is it realistic? I'm not sure as I do not know much of this time period. But if it is, that sounds like a good idea.

 

[DarthJezus]

yes it is, grenades had a fuse and sometimes they didn't even explode

 

[Venitius]

They do fail to explode.... very rarely.

 

[Plazek]

With only two I am not sure that is a good idea, unless it is very rare.

Then it could be pretty cool, thinking your doomed but the grenade just fizzles out with a puff of smoke.

 

[mark259]

Spoiler

Grenade usage declined significantly in the early 18th century, a fact that can be attributed to the improved effectiveness of massive infantry  line tactics and flintlock technology. However, the need for elite  assault troops remained, and the existing grenadier companies were used for this purpose. As noted, above average physical size had been considered important for the original grenadiers and, in principle, height and strength remained the basis of selection for these picked companies.

en.wikipedia.org

If you're aiming for a little bit of realism, I'd say to remove them completely from Grenadier and as you said, give them to a class such has Sapper or something.

 

[Korgoth]

I say keep the Grenades but nerf them alot. I would say maybe give Grenadiers a Musket, Bullets and only ONE grenade.

And I want some British Grenadiers!! I want to be one and whistle the British Grenadiers song while im playing and holding up my Flag with pride.

Spoiler

    Some talk of Alexander, and some of Hercules
    Of Hector and Lysander, and such great names as these.
    But of all the world's great heroes, there's none that can compare.
    With a tow, row, row, row, row, row, to the British Grenadiers.

    Those heroes of antiquity ne'er saw a cannon ball,
    Or knew the force of powder to slay their foes withal.
    But our brave boys do know it, and banish all their fears,
    Sing tow, row, row, row, row, row, for the British Grenadiers.

    Whene'er we are commanded to storm the palisades,
    Our leaders march with fusees, and we with hand grenades.
    We throw them from the glacis, about the enemies'* ears.
    Sing tow, row, row, row, row, row, the British Grenadiers.

    And when the siege is over, we to the town repair.
    The townsmen cry, "Hurrah, boys, here comes a Grenadier!
    Here come the Grenadiers, my boys, who know no doubts or fears!
    Then sing tow, row, row, row, row, row, the British Grenadiers.

    Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those
    Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loupèd clothes.
    May they and their commanders live happy all their years.
    With a tow, row, row, row, row, row, for the British Grenadiers.

 

[dackkorto]

I like Grenades, but if I use them I could get banned

I have no problems with them, they work fine for me.

 

[Helraham]

It must be said that as now after 2 grenades, the grenadier has only the sword to fight for the rest of the battle.

Well, he can still pick up a rifle and ammos 

 

[Doom Bunny]

Grenades are unrealistic, not only in effect but in use, grenades were abandoned mid 18th century, simply because they were more risk to user than enemy, Grenadiers remained as a elite group of the biggest guys, so I think the best thing is to make them a lot better in melee, remove grenades completley from the game, and maybe slightly worse at shooting. In mod this would mean that Grenadier was a specialist, like Light that is only better in certain situations, and stop grenade spam.

Maybe they could be modified into some sort of explosive for knocking down doors in sieges? Or soem sort of Fougasse or mine?

 

[Venitius]

I think the idea of giving them grenades was present in the very early version of the mod, before I joined... and even so, I couldn't get enough supporters after that to give them to Sappers.

 

[Beaver]

I think the idea of giving them grenades was present in the very early version of the mod, before I joined... and even so, I couldn't get enough supporters after that to give them to Sappers.

What are you talking about? Grenades were never planned at all. I just made them and then we needed someone to give them to and the mod didn't have any sappers at that time, and still doesn't...

Grenades are unrealistic, not only in effect but in use, grenades were abandoned mid 18th century, simply because they were more risk to user than enemy, Grenadiers remained as a elite group of the biggest guys, so I think the best thing is to make them a lot better in melee, remove grenades completley from the game, and maybe slightly worse at shooting. In mod this would mean that Grenadier was a specialist, like Light that is only better in certain situations, and stop grenade spam.

Maybe they could be modified into some sort of explosive for knocking down doors in sieges? Or soem sort of Fougasse or mine?

The grenadiers are already specialists in exactly that way. They're better in melee with higher melee skills and more hit points. They also got swords to use. Grenades was actually just meant for a fun addition, and they're replacing the bullets for a reason. They where never really balanced though. And they're not even allowed on servers such as the 22nd one.