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I am really disturbed about what is happening in Europe nowadays. I thought that European Union and all the constitutions that were made to maintain it were created according to democratic ideals and rules. It is really surprising to see how far Merkel and her pawns go breaking all these ideals to blackmail Greece in resuming a program that doesn't ****ing work. Furthermore the german public opinion is in favor of their government's course. Funny how everybody thinks that Greeks are so corrupted when the whole of Europe and especially Germany stinks of corruption. All my hopes go to our present government, may they never waver in wake of the challenges ahead.
 
TheLoneWolf1 说:
I am really disturbed about what is happening in Europe nowadays. I thought that European Union and all the constitutions that were made to maintain it were created according to democratic ideals and rules. It is really surprising to see how far Merkel and her pawns go breaking all these ideals to blackmail Greece in resuming a program that doesn't ****ing work. Furthermore the german public opinion is in favor of their government's course. Funny how everybody thinks that Greeks are so corrupted when the whole of Europe and especially Germany stinks of corruption. All my hopes go to our present government, may they never waver in wake of the challenges ahead.
LOL GERMANY IS DA EVILS LOL LETS TAKE THEIR MONEY AND RUN!!!
 
TheLoneWolf1 说:
It is really surprising to see how far Merkel and her pawns go breaking all these ideals to blackmail Greece
I for one would take it as a compliment when half a dozen countries focus their whole combined effort into ruining one tiny country as the sole reason for their existence.
 
Rallix 说:
Here's that Stefan Molyneux fella on this issue.
I really dislike this guy. He seems to speak about things he doesn't know much about.
 
Wellenbrecher 说:
I for one would take it as a compliment when half a dozen countries focus their whole combined effort into ruining one tiny country as the sole reason for their existence.

I don't know if you are simply joking around because you find my feelings on the matter amusing but you should know that the only thing you did for Greece the last five years is indeed ruining it and all that on the grounds that we are corrupted blah blah when you are as ****ing corrupted as we are.

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And that ****ing tiny country has still 10 million people living in it you smartass. Alas I get it, when did Germans cared for anything else than causing the suffering of others but their own.

Jhessail 说:
But it was working, to some extent at least, no?

To which extent if I may ask so that I can understand your point of view?

EDIT. My apologies. I forgot that I should expect only democratic and just actions from a government which is being lead by a former FDJ member
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TheLoneWolf1 说:
Alas I get it, when did Germans cared for anything else than causing the suffering of others but their own.
So germans may never inflict harm on other germans? I refuse to believe that Nazi mentality has been so trampled on by the PC likes of you that that would prevent such actions from being executed. I hope for the sake of all germans that you never get into government.
 
TheLoneWolf1 说:
Wellenbrecher 说:
I for one would take it as a compliment when half a dozen countries focus their whole combined effort into ruining one tiny country as the sole reason for their existence.

I don't know if you are simply joking around because you find my feelings on the matter amusing but you should know that the only thing you did for Greece the last five years is indeed ruining it and all that on the grounds that we are corrupted blah blah when you are as ****ing corrupted as we are.

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Corrupt1.png
Corrupt2.png

And that ****ing tiny country has still 10 million people living in it you smartass. Alas I get it, when did Germans cared for anything else than causing the suffering of others but their own.

Jhessail 说:
But it was working, to some extent at least, no?

To which extent if I may ask so that I can understand your point of view?

EDIT. My apologies. I forgot that I should expect only democratic and just actions from a government which is being lead by a former FDJ member
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My oh my, all those insults for no reason. :lol:
That crap borders on racism.

Alas I get it, when did Germans cared for anything else than causing the suffering of others but their own.
Beautiful. I see you really are commited to having a discussion about the matter.


About the picture, is that about to insinuate that she's a fascist or something? It's hard to follow your narrative here between all the superfluous insults.
 
Yeah, that very much sounded like a vent. A little rant he was just waiting to break into the second a German poked their head out. :lol:
 
You know a source is legit when it's using phrases like "spreading like cancer".
 
Austupaio 说:
Yeah, that very much sounded like a vent. A little rant he was just waiting to break into the second a German poked their head out. :lol:

"We are a proud, honorable country, our economic output is greater than that of Italy!!! Germans are all Nazis!!!"
 
Austupaio 说:
Yeah, that very much sounded like a vent. A little rant he was just waiting to break into the second a German poked their head out. :lol:
No it was intended. Wellen's last reply to me was the following:

Wellenbrecher 说:
Then **** off already! Leave the zone and be happy with Russia. :lol:
Nobody forced you to take those billions of tax-payer money that our lovely leaders shoved up your arse against the will of the majority of the actual ****ing tax payers.

I mean, who would've thought that
a) lying about your economy to get into the Euro zone
b) living way beyond your economical capabilities for decades on end
c) having a lovely rate of corruption
d) spending large sums of financial aid on weapons instead of important stuff
would bite a country in the arse in the end! A miracle!


But blame the Germans. Please do.

No matter his insults,I replied to him politely with a post directed to him in order to start a fruitfull conversation but he chose not to respond. Therefore when he came again and just left an ironic comment I chose to respond to him the way I did.

It seems I got warned for that. Even though this whole thread is full of overstatements and generalizations about the worth of my country and other Greek people, it is my overstatement about the Germans that crossed the line.

Wellenbrecher 说:
About the picture, is that about to insinuate that she's a fascist or something? It's hard to follow your narrative here between all the superfluous insults.

No. It simply expressed my concern and mistrust about her policies, her tactics and the way she handles things.
 
TheLoneWolf1 说:
No. It simply expressed my concern and mistrust about her policies, her tactics and the way she handles things.

Then you know maybe post some examples or discussions of her policy, not some meme spam.
 
Úlfheðinn 说:
TheLoneWolf1 说:
No. It simply expressed my concern and mistrust about her policies, her tactics and the way she handles things.

Then you know maybe post some examples or discussions of her policy, not some meme spam.

All my posts in this thread express my mistrust towards the german government's and its leader's policies especially concerning the greek matter. So I do try to discuss about them. You consider a picture that I find disturbing, meme spam. There is nothing I can do about that. I can still provide you with more sources though to explain to you why I feel the way I feel against the German government since you think I am spamming.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-too-lax-on-fighting-political-corruption-says-watchdog-a-869763.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-companies-suspected-of-aiding-syrian-chemical-weapons-program-a-1014722.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/siemens-bribery-scandal-in-greece-ex-boss-could-help-shed-light-on-corruption-a-633198.html

As far as the siemens scandal is concerned the german government has refused multiple times the demand to let the greek authorities interrogate Christoforakos and finally shed light to the truth. I find this quite convenient for the germans epecially if you think of how many german companies have been accused for bribing officials around the world (such as Daimler, Ferrostaal, Deutsche Bahn and Deutsche Telekom)
 
TheLoneWolf1 说:
Wellenbrecher 说:
About the picture, is that about to insinuate that she's a fascist or something? It's hard to follow your narrative here between all the superfluous insults.

No. It simply expressed my concern and mistrust about her policies, her tactics and the way she handles things.
No, your intent was exactly to insinuate that she is a fascist. 
 
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