Greece.

[Swissky]

Last night, the radical left party known as "Syriza" won the Greek re-election.
As proposed in "What be on yer noggin?" I made a thread.
This thread is to discuss the political scene.

frickin' Greece

 

[Austupaio]

The fact that the party is referred to as the radical left is worrying. The last thing Greece needs after Golden Dawn is more crazies.

 

[Swissky]

There will surely be lots of clashes with Syriza and Golden Dawn.

 

[AreJohn]

This topic seem rather.....

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Greecey' 

 

[SwadianJedi]

I liked John Travolta in Greece.

 

[AreJohn]

New Greek government is being rather gypsy, not planning on paying back debts.

The problem with these radicals is that have no sense of honour. (Not in the fedora sense mind)

 

[Anarion]

The fact that the party is referred to as the radical left is worrying. The last thing Greece needs after Golden Dawn is more crazies.

Radical is not the same as crazy. They also seem more moderate than their name would suggest, actually.
I am interested to see what they can do, if anything.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

Let's see how fast their approval rates plummet once folks realise they promised absolutely anything and almost all of it seems to have no relation to reality and...
Oh my bad, Aust already said they're far left.

 

[Antonis]

I'm actually happy about the outcome of the elections. It's nice to see a change of pace, the last 40 years we elected the same 2 parties, with a very similar agenda and, as it turned out, zero ethos.

The sad part is, for me at least, that the Golden Dawn are now the third biggest party in the parliament, with about 7%. Yes, not a great number, but still worrying...

 

[Wellenbrecher]

But nearly getting an absolute majority for a party that either lied to your face about everything or is actually genuinely willing and planning to drive the country off the cliff is better?

 

[Swissky]

Syriza is reportedly to form a coalition with the small party Independent Greeks/ANEL, a national-conservative party.

 

[Antonis]

I am willing to give them a bit of time. From Day 1 I and noone can say if they lied and I cannot certainly know if they drive us off the cliff. Our former options weren't that great either, just Merkel's and her bankers' pawns, at worse. At best, they were idiots with no knowldge of their actions and those actions' conseqences. 

Gestricius: I wouldn't clasify ANEL as "a national-conservative party".

 

[Wolfang]

I'm actually happy about the outcome of the elections. It's nice to see a change of pace, the last 40 years we elected the same 2 parties, with a very similar agenda and, as it turned out, zero ethos.

The sad part is, for me at least, that the Golden Dawn are now the third biggest party in the parliament, with about 7%. Yes, not a great number, but still worrying...

That doesn't seem worrying at all. Most European countries have a much larger far-right %. Seems like Greece has more of far-left extremist group.

 

[Antonis]

Equally disturbing. But, thing is, all the far-left extremist groups are branded as terrorists(as well it should be), but Golden Dawn and the likes get to be members of the parliament. Isn't this more worrying? Is there a good type of extremism and a bad one? 

 

[Wolfang]

Usually far-right parties are left out of the actual government, as in the case of Belgium, when our Flemish-Blok party got around 24% (their record) in 2008 or something, they never got in one government. So yeah, 7% is nothing to worry about, there will always be far-left/far-right.

 

[Swissky]

Gestricius: I wouldn't clasify ANEL as "a national-conservative party".

I barely know anything about them. Wikipedia is the only source in English I found.

 

[Antonis]

Usually far-right parties are left out of the actual government, as in the case of Belgium, when our Flemish-Blok party got around 24% (their record) in 2008 or something, they never got in one government. So yeah, 7% is nothing to worry about, there will always be far-left/far-right.

Yes, I agree, especially when put that way. But it troubles me, perhaps more than it should, when people that are friends and relatives vote for them, and when asked for a reason the say: "Because, eeeehhh, they are gonna kill the Pakistanis and the Albanians. And they're men, dude". Yeah, very valid reasons to justify your fascism. Understand my meaning? I just am dissapointed from people I value(d), when I hear gems like that.

I barely know anything about them. Wikipedia is the only source in English I found.

Heh, believe me man, they're not exactly that. I don't vote for them, don't agree with them, but I couldn't classify them such. At the extreme, they are another form of the former ruling Right Wing party.

Anyway, in comparison with others, and yes, SYRIZA among them, they were more true to their said schedule and word, at least till now.

 

[Danath]

But nearly getting an absolute majority for a party that either lied to your face about everything or is actually genuinely willing and planning to drive the country off the cliff is better?

As opposed to...

 

[Wolfang]

Huehuehue 

 

[Temuzu]

Hey Greece.

Pay your debts.