Got my own kingdom, how do I make peace?

[Sikker]

I kinda messed around alot and to make a long story short, I got my own kingdom, still very small and weak (only 1 castle and 1 vassal so far), yet I'm at war with 3 factions. Now I can handle the Swadians and Rhodoks but the Nords are pretty close to me and only at war with me, so I imagine they will be trouble. I sent an emmisary to them to make peace but he said that king Ragnar does not want peace. I also talked to Nord vassals and they tell me no king would ever want peace with me. So how do I do it? Some info that might be important...

-my emmisary didnt have any persuation skill
-I only have about 12 right to rule
-my relation with the nords is around -30 and it keeps getting worse because i keep fighting them (though i'd be happy to pay for peace if that is possible)
-I'm not married

I don't know how this works so if anyone can explain which steps I need to take to make peace with them that would be great.

 

[Threndor]

first of all to mkae peace with the other factions, you need enough right to rule.
if you don't have enough, they will not even listen to you and keep attacking you till your kingdom lies down in ruins.
so send you companions out to gather more of it.
think that, when you reached about 40~50 rtr the factions would accept peace, if you pay them.
and of cause the faction you got your castle from, wants to have it back...
sometimes if you have a town and at least one vassal, the guildmaster of the town could give you the quest to stop the lords on each side which wants to continue the war.
i'm sure you know that kind of quest, so if you got such a quest, DO IT!
it helps very well

that is, why it's very hard to set up your own kingdom if you haven't got enough gold to pay huge armies, or haven't worked as a vassal to an other kingdom


i do not guarantee any of these points will help

 

[arsenic_vengeur]

Get your right to rule to maximum.
But still I think it works less than crushing the whole enemy army.

It is very hard to survive once you got your first castle. Most of the time I get stormed, but with the many fight I put to defend my fortress I grow in levels honour fame etc which is better to have better army.

I'd say you'd better capture a city directly to have some decent money, then fulfill it with 20 huscarls, 20 sharpshooters for first line, and then a crazy amount of ****ty troops like rhodok trained xbowmen or nord trained footmen.

 

[SkyChef]

Since you are already in the bind, can't change right to rule then you have to bear the burden. Try to negotiate with those nations you didn't take lands from them (as advised by other). In the meantime, take offensive action by attacking the nation you have taken lands from them by doing piecemeal action, draw their troops one by one so you can manage them. By weakening them, you have more chances to survive the siege. They will siege your castle/town for sure and that's the final defense. Read around about how to defend siege against all odd. And between rounds, recruit like crazy.

Good luck. It's very hard with your current situation (even in easy mode) but it can be done. I've been there in my first game.

 

[arsenic_vengeur]

He cant win unless he has got **** tons of money or prepared his plan carefully before by raising relations with peasants to get +20/30 men from them each time he goes for recruiting.

 

[Threndor]

even if he gets a large number of troops each time he is recruiting, these still will be recruits and recruits are no problem for an high tier army...

even if he wins battle after battle while the siege, the moment will appear, when he has no more higher tier-troops.
then there will be a very bloody end for his army of recruits.

other possible way:
you said your enemys are swadia, rhodock and nords?
then search for an other faction, which is in war with one of them and swear loyality to their kingdom.
if they accept and you are a vassal then, your relation with the other faction should change to what your factions relation is.
if your castle is still yours then, they even will send troops to help you defending it when under siege.
but as you know, if they have to cross the whole map, it will be nearly impossible to hold out till reinforcements arrive

 

[Sikker]

even if he gets a large number of troops each time he is recruiting, these still will be recruits and recruits are no problem for an high tier army...

even if he wins battle after battle while the siege, the moment will appear, when he has no more higher tier-troops.
then there will be a very bloody end for his army of recruits.

other possible way:
you said your enemys are swadia, rhodock and nords?
then search for an other faction, which is in war with one of them and swear loyality to their kingdom.
if they accept and you are a vassal then, your relation with the other faction should change to what your factions relation is.
if your castle is still yours then, they even will send troops to help you defending it when under siege.
but as you know, if they have to cross the whole map, it will be nearly impossible to hold out till reinforcements arrive

I'd rather lose my castle while fighting then joining another faction!

Anyway, I did have alot of money but I blew it all on books. Still, I seem to have enough to buy pretty much all the troops I come across while traveling. Also, during my battles I capture some elite enemy troops and recruit them in my party, that seems to help. Right now I have about 50 max tier faction troops as well as loads of mercenary cavalries and hired blades and other troops. About 130 total. My vassal also seems to raise elite troops pretty quickly. However, the rhodoks have just launched a campaign and besieged my castle and I can see that the battle is going to be though. Will keep you all updated!

 

[Threndor]

i don't say you have to join another faction and i can understand that you don't want to join any of them.

but loosing your castle cause of joining a faction depend on which faction you would join and what relation you have with it's lords...

that for the joining

may i ask which castle is under your controll?
cause not every castle is the same to defend...
maybe if we know the castle, we find someone who knows how to defend specially this castle with minimal casualties against a great number of enemy forces.
anyway you should get yourself some good archers/x-bowman

btw, you know your recruitet prisoners lower the moral of your troop?

if you get a break from enemy attacks, try to sneak into some nord-town and look if the guildmaster has this "please stop the war" quest.
that would be the best option if you try to hold your castle and enemy is approaching from all side

 

[JosieJ]

By your own admission, you are small and weak and have low right to rule.  This will only encourage kingdoms to try to obliterate you, so making peace might be a bit difficult.  In fact, don't be surprised if other kingdoms, with whom you have no quarrel, pile on while you're vulnerable.

If you have a decent army, your best bet is to kick the ass of any enemy lord rash enough to come into your sights!  Nothing encourages nations to sue for peace as well as getting curbstomped does!

Barring this, as mentioned before you could join a neutral kingdom--like, say, the Vaegirs--that you are not at war with.  Your relation to the other kingdoms will be reset to that of the kingdom you join.  This will give you time to build up relations with other nations and lords, right to rule, money, troops and properties.

If you're determined to go it alone, personally, I'd stuff your castle (it would help to know which one you have) with as many low-tier troops--preferably missile--as possible, with a core of heavy infantry to hold the ladder.  Swadian militia are perfect for this purpose, as they're tier-2 and thus easy to level, and most of them spawn with crossbows (they're actually technically infantry).  Since you're at war with Swadia, that might be problematic, though.  At any rate, stuff it as full as possible to discourage besiegers.

You can still send out your companions to build up your right to rule, so I'd do that as well.

There's also the "make peace" quest as has been mentioned previously.

 

[Sikker]

i don't say you have to join another faction and i can understand that you don't want to join any of them.

but loosing your castle cause of joining a faction depend on which faction you would join and what relation you have with it's lords...

that for the joining

may i ask which castle is under your controll?
cause not every castle is the same to defend...
maybe if we know the castle, we find someone who knows how to defend specially this castle with minimal casualties against a great number of enemy forces.
anyway you should get yourself some good archers/x-bowman

btw, you know your recruitet prisoners lower the moral of your troop?

if you get a break from enemy attacks, try to sneak into some nord-town and look if the guildmaster has this "please stop the war" quest.
that would be the best option if you try to hold your castle and enemy is approaching from all side

Yeah, I know morale goes down when I recruit but my morale overal is pretty high, I guess because I'm constantly fighting and i keep most of my troops in my castle so my party is actually pretty small.

Anyway, the castle is Sungetche castle, and when it gets besieged they actually use a siege tower, which I believe is much easier to defend against then ladders. The rhodoks are attacking with about 650 troops and I have almost 170 to defend. What I tried is having an "archer war" until the siege tower is at the right place, and when they try to send their troops up the tower and in my castle I simply retreat and fight again, so that the siege tower goes back to the starting place. This would actually work because I'm winning in the archer battles, however when I retreat I lose up to 20 troops and they lose only about 2, so that kinda screws it all up. Still, I'm not gonna give up that easily and if anyone knows a better strategy I'd love to hear it.

If you have a decent army, your best bet is to kick the ass of any enemy lord rash enough to come into your sights!  Nothing encourages nations to sue for peace as well as getting curbstomped does!

I have actually been doing this and had the upper hand in the war, but it was not enough to get peace (with the nords atleast, havent tried the other factions)

Good to know about the peace quest, I'll definitely try to do that if I can get a break from the attacks. And yeah I have been sending companions to right to rule missions but those take pretty long and I'm only at 15 right to rule now.

My backup plan is to simply take all my strong troops and let the rhodoks have sungetche castle while I take a different one, but then I'd want one that is really easy to defend. But I only want to do this if I really can't defend my current castle.

 

[Threndor]

as said,

don't siege damn castle's at first!

better go for city's
cause you can gain better incoming from city's and you have a good chance, that the guildmaster of the city has the "peace"-quest

 

[arsenic_vengeur]

I always thought it was better to defend a castle with a ladder and enemies spawning close to the ladder.
Indeed most of the kills you will suffer are your aimers on towers who die from enemies shooting long range. You'd better have the maximum of enemies on the ladder and the maximum of aimers on your towers (I played as aimer in siege defense).

If I were you, I'd make sure I have at least 10 factories in towns. I'd rape and sell sea raiders till I have lot of denars and my heroes decently equipped. Then you attack a castle with your 100 troops 80% of elite shooters, and a tad bit of huscarls. Each time you attack you kill a lot of enemies yourself with shooters (and you shoot also). YOu do repetitive assaults until you get the city. Then you staff it with your troops, huscarls to block ladder and aimers. Ang you go as fast as possible with heroes only recruit **** loads of infantry recruits from neighbouring villages, where you will need to have donen a quest in at least 4-5 villages to recruit another full party fast.