GOOD NEWS! EA’s future games will all feature microtransactions!

[Goker]

I am more worried for Mass Effect 4 and Dragon Age 3 as I can not think of a way for microtransactions to work in that game. At least, not in an acceptable way.

There's your problem. You think that ME4 and DA3 are games worth putting a single second of play time in. Burn burn burn, never touch them.

I'm not gonna touch them, but I would rather not see anyone implementing any sort of microtransaction into RPG's. Who knows which developer/publisher will follow suit.

In any case, the microtransaction/DLC system can be used in an acceptable way. **** EA though, they surely aren't the ones who can do that.

Example: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/1/4042704/real-racing-3-available-in-the-us-for-free

And that's a game for iOS - Android. Who knows what they will do to traditional games on PC and consoles.

 

[Lueii]

No....she hates it because it's not a hardcore RPG like in the 90's.  Understandable as I have a few of them and they can be really fun and have deep systems so many things are accounted for in modern RPGs, unless they are Fallout New Vegas on hardcore.  I just think that one shouldn't be so caught up in defining RPGs by gameplay systems as opposed to allowing several options to express your character with (something that DA and ME did well on and off).

 

[Vieira151]

I am more worried for Mass Effect 4 and Dragon Age 3 as I can not think of a way for microtransactions to work in that game. At least, not in an acceptable way.

Edit: Thinking about the Battlefield 3 example I gave, that wouldn't be really acceptable if the players were able to buy some abilities. If 2 people on the same team had paid for and unlocked flares for jet fighters and started using them against people who didn't get to unlock them by not paying, the non-payers would be at a huge disadvantage.

Well, I guess one way to solve it from being a massive disadvantage (I mean, the person I used for my example is always at a disadvantage because they don't get to play the game often) would be to only allow players to buy items/content that are within a certain level range of their own. Meaning they couldn't be level 1 and buy level 50 stuff, or in your example (these numbers are arbitrary, I don't know of BF3 things) if the limit for buying was 5 levels, then you wouldn't be able to buy flares until you got to level 10 (if the flares were lvl 15 unlocks).

While a little bit... awkward and silly it does solve the massive disadvantage that you say non-payers would have, to an extent.

 

[Jhessail]

Mass Effect 3 wasn't bad by the way, I think you're confusing bad gameplay with a lack of closure in the story.

ME3 was a ****ty, linear, third-person, corridor shooter with pretentious conversations with cardboard-cutouts that posed as characters. ME2 was a ****ty, linear, third-person, corridor shooter with ridiculous conversations with cardboard-cutouts that posed as characters. ME1 was a decent, linear, third-person, action rpg with ridiculous conversations with cardboard-cutouts that posed as characters.

Luckily, thanks to Kickstarter, I will never have to touch another Bioware "product" again, since I will have actual, good, RPGs to play with.

Well, I guess one way to solve it from being a massive disadvantage (I mean, the person I used for my example is always at a disadvantage because they don't get to play the game often) would be to only allow players to buy items/content that are within a certain level range of their own. Meaning they couldn't be level 1 and buy level 50 stuff, or in your example (these numbers are arbitrary, I don't know of BF3 things) if the limit for buying was 5 levels, then you wouldn't be able to buy flares until you got to level 10 (if the flares were lvl 15 unlocks).

WHY DO YOU HATE PROFITS, VIEIRA? ARE YOU A GODLESS COMMUNIST?

You're still looking at this all wrong. EA does not give a **** about your playing experience. They care about profits. They will sell you level 50 stuff when you're level 1. There is no "oh, EA can make it work if they just do it like this and this"-saving grace, you moron.

 

[Swadius 2.0]

It's clear you disagree with his position, but I don't think you need to call him a moron because of it.

 

[tommylaw]

It's clear you disagree with his position, but I don't think you need to call him a moron because of it.

He's an Arsenal fan.

But seriously, the "moron" was a tad much.

I agree with Jhessail though. EA will have no interest in balancing for microtransactions, just out of sheer avarice.

What happened to just making a good game whole and I'll buy it whole.

 

[Vieira151]

Well, I guess one way to solve it from being a massive disadvantage (I mean, the person I used for my example is always at a disadvantage because they don't get to play the game often) would be to only allow players to buy items/content that are within a certain level range of their own. Meaning they couldn't be level 1 and buy level 50 stuff, or in your example (these numbers are arbitrary, I don't know of BF3 things) if the limit for buying was 5 levels, then you wouldn't be able to buy flares until you got to level 10 (if the flares were lvl 15 unlocks).

WHY DO YOU HATE PROFITS, VIEIRA? ARE YOU A GODLESS COMMUNIST?

You're still looking at this all wrong. EA does not give a **** about your playing experience. They care about profits. They will sell you level 50 stuff when you're level 1. There is no "oh, EA can make it work if they just do it like this and this"-saving grace, you moron.

I AIN'T NO GODDAMNED PINKO, WOMAN!

I know I am. What I'm saying is more of a "if this were a perfect world" scenario. Or more, "if the developer was small enough to care about it's fan base" scenario. Plus, I don't recall the last EA game I actually bought that wasn't a Fifa (and I buy that because I like football and they make the best football games, so I guess that makes me a moron  ), so EA doing it doesn't concern me that much as a consumer. If other companies were to down EA's path, then I would be a little more disgruntled. As it is, I think companies will wait to see how successful EA's venture down this "EVRY GAEM U BUY STUFF" road is.


EDIT:

It's clear you disagree with his position, but I don't think you need to call him a moron because of it.

He's an Arsenal fan.

Wait, WHAT?! I guess that makes you an Arsenal fan too, then. 

 

[Kawee]

The best football game is actually Winning Eleven (Pro Evolution Soccer) and Football Manager

 

[Sir Prince]

**** Arsenal. I keep having to play against them in FM as Celtic.

 

[Vieira151]

The best football game is actually Winning Eleven (Pro Evolution Soccer) and Football Manager

Pro Evo was only good until it moved from old gen to current gen. Then the games just continually felt old and blocky, whereas the Fifa games began to feel fluid and much more dynamic. I used to much prefer Pro Evo, but it seriously went to ****, or well, they just didn't move forward at all whereas I found Fifa did.

I also tended to play Fifa Manager, mainly because back in the day it had a 3D match option that was cool, but it has aged terribly. I haven't bought one in a couple years, but I tend to just use the database editor to make **** up, like a Kazakh league that I used to play in before it was implemented. I really need to get into Football Manager though.

 

[Kawee]

Don't buy Football Manager! The latest patch just came out, and I almost lost my girlfriend to it!

 

[PoisonCourtesan]

Don't buy Football Manager! The latest patch just came out, and I almost lost my girlfriend to it!

You almost broke your hand?

 

[Sir Prince]

Maybe he almost punched his monitor?

 

[Vieira151]

Yeah, I heard it was because he thought it unrealistic that his Arsenal team got beaten by Bradford in one of the cups.

 

[Goker]

Returning to the topic, I guess all I want to say was already said by Randy on this video.

 

[Sir Prince]

Interesting idea, although sales may be an exception sometimes as while i may be willing and think a game is worth its regular price I'm not passing up a sale either.

 

[Kawee]

Don't buy Football Manager! The latest patch just came out, and I almost lost my girlfriend to it!

You almost broke your hand?

No, I forgot to refill her with air 

 

[PoisonCourtesan]

Ah I see

 

[Sir Prince]

ACTUAL GOOD NEWS! (Or EA is lying again, who knows)

The original quote of his:

"We're building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way, either to get to a higher level to buy a new character, to buy a truck, a gun, whatever it might be".

Apparently the only games that will definitely have microtransactions are mobile games, the rest will just have the typical DLC and so on that is already par for the course and may or may not have microtransactions.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-06-ea-cfo-backs-off-microtransactions-in-all-games-statement

 

[Rujasu]

In other words, EA saw the backlash and weaseled out.