gloves and mittens

[namster]

They are EXPENSIVE!
Good grief...

For the additional cost of a pair of mittens, I can upgrade the body suit armor a fair bit or up my offense with a shiny new blade (the best defense is a good offense... so i hear)...

Haven't gotten around to a pair of gloves yet as a result...

PS: Couldn't the court lady start with a nice lamb skin full length gloves, dyed to match her dress.

 

[Mage246]

On a per weight basis, gloves are THE most efficient method of increasing body armor (I think... I've been meaning to make a table about that). That having been said, their price means that they are more of a high-end item, for people with some disposable cash.

 

[Harr-the-Ruskie]

How are gloves suppose to work in-game ? Does the game recognize hitboxes for your palms and how often would one get hit in the palms anyway ?

 

[Ingolifs]

I think it just adds to body aromur.

 

[DrJonez]

It's pretty lame that a nice suit of armor costs me a few hundred gold, where as leather gloves are 500+.

 

[Skanky Burns]

They add to the body armour.

Leather gloves can be rather cheap when you have some fairly decent armour, but they aren't really designed for low-level characters.

 

[Maelstorm]

Yeah. Gloves are surely not for beginners. But it is a nice way to support your main armor. Much better than to die trying to find a reinforced evil dark armor.

Im waiting eagerly for Dark Bracers. That should end in teh uber-tank. Reinforced even. Yummy!

 

[Mage246]

I'm waiting for the set of armor that will make me so slow but so armored that I'm basically a walking mountain . Then I get on my souped-up warhorse and just spend all my time running things over!

 

[okiN]

Yeah. Gloves are surely not for beginners. But it is a nice way to support your main armor. Much better than to die trying to find a reinforced evil dark armor.

Im waiting eagerly for Dark Bracers. That should end in teh uber-tank. Reinforced even. Yummy!

Why on earth would gloves not be for beginners? It makes no sense, everybody has gloves. It's just that the armor rating for them is much too high, it's unrealistic. I've said it before and I'll say it again: cut the prices for the leather gloves to about 1/6 of the current one and decrease the armor rating by two. The price for the mail mittens should also be reduced, albeit much less.

Also, I think you mean gauntlets, not bracers.

gaunt·let1 also gant·let ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gôntlt, gänt-)
n.
A protective glove worn with medieval armor.
A protective glove with a flared cuff, used in manual labor, in certain sports, and for driving.
A challenge: throw down the gauntlet; take up the gauntlet.
A dress glove cuffed above the wrist.

bra·cer2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (brsr)
n.
An arm or wrist guard worn by archers and fencers.

 

[Mage246]

So, basically make gloves almost useless at anything but the lowest levels? Or were you also saying that we should have gauntlets in addition to gloves, which would give more armor? I think that if we are going to have a separate armor slot for gloves/gauntlets, they should actually do something.... whether or not that is realistic.

 

[okiN]

Mage246, first of all they'd still be far from useless. With a base armor value of 1, a pair of hardened leather gloves would give 4 points of body armor, but cost a lot more. It'd make a difference, but not that big a difference. Another thing is the lack of variety. I think this would be good:

Leather gloves: 1 body armor
Mail mittens: 3 body armor
Plate gauntlets: 4 body armor
Black gauntlets: 5 body armor

You could otherwise have bracers for 2 armor, but those are already included in the armor suits so it wouldn't make sense. Prices could range from a couple dozen for a pair of leather gloves denars to hundreds for a pair of black gauntlets.

 

[Daimyo]

I would simply like gauntlets/bracers to protect an additional location: arms.
So we have body armor (wich may give +X to leg armor AND arms armor), leg armor, head armor and arms armor.
Nicer, k00|3r.

 

[Skanky Burns]

Leather gloves were added with 0.701 and mail mittens with 0.702. It is quite obvious that they aren't the be-all and end all of the planned gloves, nor are they perfectly balanced in this current version. That does not change the fact that gloves as they are in the current version of the game are not for beginners. The cost per additional armour point is much lower for the current low-level body armours than for the current gloves.

That being said, I agree with you okiN. Hopefully the devs do too.

 

[okiN]

Leather gloves were added with 0.701 and mail mittens with 0.702.

Actually, it was 0.700 and 0.701.

 

[Damien]

Actually, you've got that a bit wrong, Skanky. Leather gloves were introduced in 0.7 and mail mittens in 0.701.

My character has mail mittens and I'm still playing 0.701.



Also.. "bracers" aren't actually a type of armour.. they're a way to firm up and hold the wrist steady for fencers and archers.. they also serve as protection from the bowstring for archers. The type of -armour- that protects the forearms is called a vambrace (plural: vambraces).

I wouldn't mind seeing vambraces included in the game, especially for archers, who wouldn't be physically able to use their weapon with mittens or plate gauntlets (though as yet there's nothing stopping you from doing so in the game).


Anywho... I agree with previously expressed sentiments-- protection provided by gloves should come down a bit.. as should price. I'm also for the "leather, mail, plate, black" separation already proposed. Although I wouldn't mind seeing 'mail gauntlets' or 'mail gloves' as well (fingered, as opposed to mittens which are not fingered).

Put mail gloves on my want list right beside full-sleeved mail hauberks.

 

[okiN]

Damien, you're right, I messed up there. However, that doesn't change the fact that vambraces are included into the body armor, so a separate item for them wouldn't make sense. They also wouldn't prevent the use of gloves, so I think the sensible thing is to ignore them as part of the main body armor.

 

[Damien]

Oh, probably. I'm just saying that I'm not adverse to the idea of them being in the game, if a way to include them without getting really weird with body slots could be conceived.

 

[Daimyo]

anybody noticed that Marnid & Borcha do not equip mittens or gloves no matter what? They just take them and put them in their inventory uselessly.

 

[Maelstorm]

Yeah. Gloves are surely not for beginners.

Why on earth would gloves not be for beginners? It makes no sense, everybody has gloves.

I meant the conditions now. Spending money on an armor is better for beginners. Or hiring men or getting weapons.. They have better places to spend money on.

Also, I think you mean gauntlets, not bracers.

Yes. I just couldnt remember the word gauntlet and bracer popped up in my mind. I shall be more careful to avoid your wrath next time

 

[Worbah]

I would translate it for you, but you are hardly worth it.