GIVE THE ****ING SERVERS BACK

[Mabons]

Unfortunately, there is a bug in .614 that made it crash after a while. I re-started the servers four times or so during the weekend but they go down again after a while. Hopefully, we'll release a new version pretty soon.

As Arch said, the last time Armagan said that we were waiting a good bit of a year

 

[ACC1]

The exact words of a frustrated Euro on the Aussie server.

Mate we were just as frustrated as you before our servers went up but I don't remember any of us from the oceanic region making topics with such unnecessarily offensive titles. I'm not saying don't swear, I'm saying you didn't need to say ****, nor did you need to type the whole title in caps.

Indeed.
+1.

 

[Spanky89]

The exact words of a frustrated Euro on the Aussie server.

Mate we were just as frustrated as you before our servers went up but I don't remember any of us from the oceanic region making topics with such unnecessarily offensive titles. I'm not saying don't swear, I'm saying you didn't need to say ****, nor did you need to type the whole title in caps.

Indeed.
+1.

+1 me aswell, i created a full topic about this on  general forum section

 

[Spanky89]

I remember seeing someone warn someone else against doing something specific, I cannot remember what, and then a few seconds after the server crashed.  I do not know if it was a joke, or a serious statement. 

they where up =) then i opened gate in seig, everyone got angry and banned me. So i put a curse on them all!

10 min later all servers crashed muhaha <3

hehe that was me <3

It actually wasn't the people who banned you, I kicked you from the server because of the gate opening which you continued doing to give the other team the advantage which pretty much ruined the game of everyone else on the team who defended the castle. But until any official statement from the devs I don't consider admin actions as a gamebreaking thing. Of course I could be wrong. The servers have been really unstable since the latest version though.

just so you know, our team was totaly dominating the other team. I was top player with most kills, i was pretty much killing eveyrone on the field before they even reached the castle. Then we had 3 gate keeps who were always closing the gate after i went out.

If your not "supposed" to open the gate then our team wouldent have been given that option would we? Its been programmed so that our team can open the gate and rush out with cavlery.

There were 2 polls made by 2 newbies against kicking me - they failed. Even if castle team had more players - again saying that what i did was HOW YOUR SUPPOSED TO PLAY.

if you as a admin think gate opening is wrong. Then your saying the delopers are wrong by giving castle team the option to open their own gate.

So why can't you just play the rules the developers set instead of just going for what you feel or what 2 nooobs feel?

I am always doingmy best for team to win, if they come into the castle i rush in to take the flagging postion, i am always top player in my team. Kicking me gives a higher advantage to the enemy then me opening the gate for 10 seconds.

Your giving the enemy a advantage - not me.


So stop abusing your admin rights? Have you ever been a admin before?

 

[kippyhiller]

Unfortunately, there is a bug in .614 that made it crash after a while. I re-started the servers four times or so during the weekend but they go down again after a while. Hopefully, we'll release a new version pretty soon.

doesnt the aussie server run on .614

 

[sadnhappy]

Spanky89, I have replied to your PM you have send me. I won't be publishing my reply however as I don't feel it to be necessary. And no, I wasn't abusing the admin rights. I stand behind my words and have the support of my fellow admins on this case. Case closed.

 

[Spanky89]

i cant bother retyping my msg to a more public msg.

Well "You could have easily just jumped over the walls, couldn't you?"

That reason is wrong. I avoid jumping of the wall because

1. Falling of the fence dmges your horse pretty badly, insted of the horse surviving 3 arrows. The horse is easily taken down by 1 hit by a bowman. This leaving me all alone behind 30 freaking enemies =)

2. There is a bug that makes the horse get suck into the "wall" this way one is stuck into the wall and has no option to dismount. When one dismountes one atomatically dies -  giving 1 more death and -1 kill. Also one loses precious time and kills for that round. I absolutly hate going over the wall as its TOO risky.

You should know that - wall is a big misstake for a good laner who wishes to surivive

A nub couldent care less if he dies behind enemy or not

And anyway, i do support your argument to a limit. You havent completly failed, but yes. Again see through my perspective that i am simpley not exploiting the idea of jumping over walls.

In midd evil times horses didnt jump off walls  they ran out through the gate.

And one more thing -if the 2 reasons didnt exist - horse didnt take dmg and one didnt get stuck in the walls. I would have taken the wall option because it would be the best option. For now -  its not the best option.

I simpley play the game as its ment to be played.

I wish you to make these 2 points clear to your fellow admins. ot that i am saying your ddoing wrong. 90 % of everyone would agree with you, but they dont see the 2 problems i  face when i am playing horsy

 

[sadnhappy]

Fine. If you don't want to just talk via PM, I'll publish my replies to your PM's.

Hi!

We have been going through this case with the admins over and over again and they have agreed with me on the decision. One admin questioned the decision with the same things that you mentioned of how 'the option is there', etc, however he later admitted that I still did the right thing. There were more arguments supporting my decision than vice versa.

I stand behind my words and actions and I have the support of the fellow admins in this case. The only reason you weren't kicked by the two polls was because of the enemy who voted 'no'. They received the advantage, not us. Everyone rushed to the gate to protect it, thus leaving all other ways into the castle open for the enemy. You could have easily just jumped over the walls, couldn't you?

I rest my case. I'm in no way trying to threathen you or abusing my admin rights but calling other people noob doesn't help your case at all. And don't get me wrong, I didn't kick you out without hesitation, I waited for minutes and observed the situation and did the right thing. On top of that the players on the team were more than relieved because of the decision and continued having fun in the game afterwards.

In the middle times the defenders didn't open the gate for the attackers like one admin said, that if someone would have done that then he would have "stab my dirk through his jugular, close the gate, and say "All's well, back to defense". It wasn't just '2 noobs' that wanted you out, it was pretty much the whole team who saw what you were doing.

And when I said jumping over the walls I didn't actually mean jumping to your death or damaging the horse: There are three different holes in the walls (Left, right and back) in to which you can easily just ride your horse into without damaging the horse.

Should there be another time when you and I happen to be at the Siege server on Castle I, defending, I'll take a closer look on the situation and determine whether or not you say is true that you don't harm the defencing team which I and many other players feel that you did, alright?

 

[Spanky89]

I actually think its better the public sees this aswell - you got tje majority supporting you anyway.

I just want people to see my reasoning behind it aswell. =)

I hope no offense taken? I didnt post your replay in here just mine

 

[Nacon]

It actually wasn't the people who banned you, I kicked you from the server because of the gate opening which you continued doing to give the other team the advantage which pretty much ruined the game of everyone else on the team who defended the castle. But until any official statement from the devs I don't consider admin actions as a gamebreaking thing. Of course I could be wrong. The servers have been really unstable since the latest version though.

The sad part about Beta...  Spanky89 actually become quite useful as idiots who like to abuse such games, so the dev would have to figure out how to ease up the abuse.
Whenever I joined a beta, I do my best to break it than look for some misspelling. 




Still waiting for my key. 

 

[Spanky89]

As i said, i perfer going over the gate to kill enemys when there are none in base

its my opinion - i am not abusing anything if you ask me

but if you ask others maybe yes.

 

[sadnhappy]

I actually think its better the public sees this aswell - you got tje majority supporting you anyway.

I just want people to see my reasoning behind it aswell. =)

I hope no offense taken? I didnt post your replay in here just mine

Of course no offence taken I really wish that people don't begin to think that admins on Warband servers would just start kicking people irrationally because that isn't what we are doing, at all, ever. And infact, just to let you know, what happened on that server has been my first and only kick decision during this time I have been an admin.

You made your points and I made mine and by the way I think that you could suggest that thing that the gates could be already open at the start of the round for the first lets say 5-10 seconds and then perhaps automaticly close so that the defending cavalry could get out of the castle quickly without harming the overall defence strategy of the team inside the castle. This would of course be designed so that the attacking Khergits or other horsemen couldn't get to the gate until it's closed so really the time would be mere seconds. Or perhaps designing another gate into the castle could be the answer? I don't know how realistic that would be in the end but hey you could always try.

Trying to hold you back from playing the game the way you want to play it has not been my intention in this case and I hope that you understand that and I hope that we can move forward from this already. And like I said, should this kind of scenario come across again sometimes on the Siege server, I'm more than willing to observe the situation again if needed.

 

[Incaa]

If that's the map I'm thinking of then doesn't it actually have a couple of huge doors at the opposite end of it?

 

[Orion]

If that's the map I'm thinking of then doesn't it actually have a couple of huge doors at the opposite end of it?

No, that's Village. They are in fact talking about Castle.

Opening the gate to let one cavalryman out is dumb in my opinion. If you've got a group of 4 or more, fine, open the gate. However, I shouldn't have to sit here and wait for you to leave so I can close the gate once you've left.

Besides, if you're just a little too slow the enemy cavalry could get in as you go out, and that's bad for everyone in the castle.

Your personal score does not equate well with your team's score. I could personally kill half of your team after my whole team is dead, so my personal score would be really high but my team would still lose. The other players don't care about your score, so don't use it as a means to justify your actions.

Then again, if your team doesn't care about what you're doing then by all means go ahead and do it.

From what I've gathered (granted, I wasn't there, but I've been following this particular debate) your team didn't agree with you opening the gate every round (as was evident by the two polls against you, and please don't call them "noobs" just because you had more kills than them, that's just provocation), so sadnhappy kicked you for the benefit of the team. That's perfectly fine, and I support sadnhappy's decision, as do the other admins.

 

[Spanky89]

thats why i avoid seig games =)