Getting too old to play ?

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Wow I feel like I'm the youngest here  :oops:

However I don't find it surprising that PoP attracts an older audience with its setting and gameplay.

One of the main features of the Mount and Blade "system" is that it  does not provide instant gratification. PoP takes the difficult elements in the base game and cranks it up a notch. There are times when I find it simply too frustrating. Early game you simply suck and everyone pretty much stomps you into the ground. You do repetitive tasks to marginally get ahead, only to lose it all in an ambush waylaid by a Snake cult party. But all of this is a good kind of frustration. You fail in this game, you fail a lot, and the game rubs it in your face that you fail. But over time you will see your embarrassing weakling of a character turn into a terrifyingly powerful figure and this journey is glorious. It takes a certain maturity of spirit to appreciate that.

That's why I think, this game is not a "kiddie game", in the sense that everything is necessarily geared towards player gratification. This is Blizzard's main sin, but also affects to some degree pretty much any modern major dev studio.

 
saxondragon said:
Styxt said:
saxondragon said:
When I am not working on games, I play them.  I find being a spectator fairly boring.  Over the years I have seen my appetite for television and movies dwindle to the point where maybe I consume 4 hours a week of passive entertainment like this.


Interesting enough, there are more people who are over the age of 30 who play games, or used to play games, than under.

Mostly the same for me. Except I'm making simulation software ...


I find that this aspect is what I mostly do.. create economic/military/religious/covert/political simulations.  We have done some pretty amazing work in our other project folding procedural generation into some pretty advanced simulation work.   

What is this other project if you dont mind me asking?
 
mr48 said:
saxondragon said:
Styxt said:
saxondragon said:
When I am not working on games, I play them.  I find being a spectator fairly boring.  Over the years I have seen my appetite for television and movies dwindle to the point where maybe I consume 4 hours a week of passive entertainment like this.


Interesting enough, there are more people who are over the age of 30 who play games, or used to play games, than under.

Mostly the same for me. Except I'm making simulation software ...


I find that this aspect is what I mostly do.. create economic/military/religious/covert/political simulations.  We have done some pretty amazing work in our other project folding procedural generation into some pretty advanced simulation work.   

What is this other project if you dont mind me asking?
PM sent..


If anyone else who reads this wants to know, please PM me.
 
I don't even understand that question. What makes a hobby mature exactly? You are not too old for anything unless you are physically unable to continue with your hobby.

I would suggest anyone to not mind such ridiculous comments, Even if it's from your significant other. The only reason some people think gaming is childish is because it is not an old entertainment medium like say movies.
 
w4hammer said:
I don't even understand that question. What makes a hobby mature exactly? You are not too old for anything unless you are physically unable to continue with your hobby.

I would suggest anyone to not mind such ridiculous comments, Even if it's from your significant other. The only reason some people think gaming is childish is because it is not an old entertainment medium like say movies.

I agree. Such comments can only come from insecurity.
 
Thank you for this thread, i showed it to my wife, who learned to tolerate my gaming hobby.
I promised her when we started i would not play any game withou a pause option (That was the end of MMOs for me, of course, or even the ocasional venture into online shooters and multiplayer in general).
I am now 51 and have been playing since the days of the ZX Spectrum. I see no reason to stop. What keeps me from playing sometimes is not having anything new and exciting (hint, hint, nudge, nudge).
Pendor is still very much my go to mod for M&B, of course. My other time sinks are XCom (the recent ones) and i would probably still be going back to Arulco (for those in the knowing) if i could get mod 1.13 to run properly.
While Bannerlord (there, i said it) doesn't come out i hope to get my hands on Phoenix Point early access, already payed for it, which is new for me. But hey, when you love a Developer's work you take these kind of chances, i guess.

So i hope i can play Bannerlord well past my 60's, and then i'll be playing M&B 3 until i die. Sounds like something to live for.
 
Just to clarify that my SO does not object to me playing or want me to stop, she knew I was into PC games, Boardgames & wargames years b4 we started dating.
The comment was just light-hearted banter and in no way does she want me to stop being who I am  :wink: 

OMG the trouble I could get into if it wasn't for amazing, imaginative, exciting distractions like this  :twisted:

...and yes I am being watched while I type this  :fruity:
 
Being a  p u s s y  slave is nothing to be proud of and there's nothing funny on it, cuck.  :fruity:
 
palewarrior said:
Just to clarify that my SO Mistress does not object to me playing or want me to stop, she knew I was into PC games, Boardgames & wargames years b4 we started dating.
The comment was just light-hearted banter and in no way does she want me to stop being who I am  :wink: 

OMG the trouble I could get into if it wasn't for amazing, imaginative, exciting distractions like this  :twisted:

...and yes I am being watched while I type this  :fruity:

Fix'd.
 
mokrygorky said:
Being a  p u s s y  slave is nothing to be proud of and there's nothing funny on it, cuck.  :fruity:

mokrygorky said:
Such ignorant people still exist? Maybe it's time to un-partner her  :roll:

Enjoy what you do and don't let others bring you down because of that. You have fun and that is what matters, not opinions of some buffoons who have so boring lives they have to criticize your own.

Do I smell a hint of bitterness perhaps? You two need to take a chill pill.
 
mr48 said:
mokrygorky said:
Being a  p u s s y  slave is nothing to be proud of and there's nothing funny on it, cuck.  :fruity:

mokrygorky said:
Such ignorant people still exist? Maybe it's time to un-partner her  :roll:

Enjoy what you do and don't let others bring you down because of that. You have fun and that is what matters, not opinions of some buffoons who have so boring lives they have to criticize your own.

Do I smell a hint of bitterness perhaps? You two need to take a chill pill.

Do I smell a hint of white knighting? get out
 
Leonion said:
mr48 said:
You two need to take a chill pill.
You quoted 1 person.

Haha, I guess I did, good to know there is only 1 person like that in this thread. The fewer the better.
mokrygorky said:
mr48 said:
mokrygorky said:
Being a  p u s s y  slave is nothing to be proud of and there's nothing funny on it, cuck.  :fruity:

mokrygorky said:
Such ignorant people still exist? Maybe it's time to un-partner her  :roll:

Enjoy what you do and don't let others bring you down because of that. You have fun and that is what matters, not opinions of some buffoons who have so boring lives they have to criticize your own.

Do I smell a hint of bitterness perhaps? You two need to take a chill pill.

Do I smell a hint of white knighting? get out

I'm just pointing out that you sound like a bitter manchild, and you're doing yourself no favors with your response.
 
Lol people need to chill. It is normal for people who never played a proper video game to think that video games are for kids because you cannot deny that average age of a gamer does not pass 20. There is a reason why lots of people lose their **** when they see games like GTA because they think all games are aimed at kids. It is an opinion born out of ignorance...
 
w4hammer said:
you cannot deny that average age of a gamer does not pass 20.
Statistics says otherwise.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/189582/age-of-us-video-game-players-since-2010/
https://www.biu-online.de/blog/2016/06/07/der-durchschnittliche-gamer-in-deutschland-ist-35-jahre-alt/
http://www.abc.es/tecnologia/videojuegos-nintendo3ds/20121214/abci-estudio-asegura-edad-media-201302060931.html
http://www.clubic.com/mag/jeux-video/actualite-795226-jeux-video-age-moyen-joueur-francais-35-ans.html
https://rg.ru/2013/10/08/igry.html
 
Leonion said:
w4hammer said:
you cannot deny that average age of a gamer does not pass 20.
Statistics says otherwise.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/189582/age-of-us-video-game-players-since-2010/
https://www.biu-online.de/blog/2016/06/07/der-durchschnittliche-gamer-in-deutschland-ist-35-jahre-alt/
http://www.abc.es/tecnologia/videojuegos-nintendo3ds/20121214/abci-estudio-asegura-edad-media-201302060931.html
http://www.clubic.com/mag/jeux-video/actualite-795226-jeux-video-age-moyen-joueur-francais-35-ans.html
https://rg.ru/2013/10/08/igry.html

Those include mobile gaming that doesn't count. Playing games on your cellphone is not seen the same with owning a gaming console or playing games on PC.
 
w4hammer said:
Leonion said:
w4hammer said:
you cannot deny that average age of a gamer does not pass 20.
Statistics says otherwise.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/189582/age-of-us-video-game-players-since-2010/
https://www.biu-online.de/blog/2016/06/07/der-durchschnittliche-gamer-in-deutschland-ist-35-jahre-alt/
http://www.abc.es/tecnologia/videojuegos-nintendo3ds/20121214/abci-estudio-asegura-edad-media-201302060931.html
http://www.clubic.com/mag/jeux-video/actualite-795226-jeux-video-age-moyen-joueur-francais-35-ans.html
https://rg.ru/2013/10/08/igry.html

Those include mobile gaming that doesn't count. Playing games on your cellphone is not seen the same with owning a gaming console or playing games on PC.

Don't defend ignorance of an average person. Anyone who blames videogames for anything but fun is an ignorant idiot who doesn't understand this new form of art and fun. Hobby blaming is for insecure people who are too stupid to find a hobby themselves.

Also, there are some very decent mobile games, so I don't know what are you talking about.
 
palewarrior said:
So last night while playing PoP, groaning out load when I ran straight into Wolfbode with 50 recruits, twisting in my chair during a pretty frantic battle.  Generally enjoying myself...
My partner says she doesn't get why someone of my age  enjoys playing this stuff so much and wonders if I'm having a second childhood  :roll:

TBH I don't remember my first childhood ending. 
So I am wondering at what age should you consider hanging up the mouse and doing something more mature with your free time  :wink:

Video games weren't around for 80 year olds, so of course you never saw one playing them.  That will change. 
 
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