Sethyboy0 说:
As you can see by my vast post count, I'm fairly new to the Mount and Blade series. I'm currently at the point in the Black Mace storyline where I need to put the polish claimant on the throne, and I don't really know how it works.
I'm sorry if this isn't the best section for this, but I'd like to get my facts straight while I'm building up my renown, so I know what to do when the time comes.
To my knowledge, once you start the rebellion you can try to convince lords of the faction to join your side by talking to them about how your claimant is the true ruler. Is it a good idea to raise my reputation with Polish lords before I try this, or will it make no difference?
How will being a rebel affect my standings with other factions? Currently I keep my money in a Cossack bank, and I'd hate to lose it because they don't like me.
Finally, are there any good tips I should know about before I go doing this? I was thinking trying to join another faction at war with the polish to hopefully lower their city count, but I don't know if this would help or hurt.
Ah yes, you see - to start a rebellion find your perspective claimant. Once he is found swear vassalage to him (don’t worry, not permanent). Now you just need to go off and turn over an entire empire. Sound easy? Its not, trust me. I did it with the Crimean's and it was a hell of a lot of work. You will be outnumbered, and with a faction as large as the Polish maneuvering will be an issue.
1. Recruiting Nobles:
The claimant is the key - when you go and talk to an enemy noble tell him to support your man (or woman as the case might be) he will give his line of reasoning and then you will be bombarded with a list of things to say to him. Its important to note that saying the right thing will decided if he joins you or not - sometimes not the case with the more loyal ones. Its very difficult, however, to discern what appeals to him so if you have the option to save and quit you can retry over and over again with a noble.. If you don’t, like I did then prepare for some disappointments. I have recruited nobles that outright hated me but that may have been because they were the selfish power hungry ones.
Now don’t worry, about recruiting every noble to your side before wiping them out - once you win they all automatically join the new state.
2. Yourself
How can you benefit? Well as the Kings right hand man at this point you essentially have the powers of the King. Lets say you capture a nice town that YOU want, you can suggest to the rebel king "Hey man, give it to me" and you will get it unconditionally. Just remember that when you get a castle it will not be guarded so be prepared to throw some bodies in there. In With Fire and Sword you keep your holdings even if you switch factions so keep that in mind.
I own three cities now because of such little side deals, heh heh heh.
3. Your standing with other nations.
Yes, well I should prepare you for this... You will be attacked by your own side as the rebels - I mean the side that gave you this damn quest to begin with. Don't dispair however, you can simply go up to one of that sides nobles and throw a few couple thousand thaler at them to immiediately halt hostilities. then you can get back to business.
On the bright side you can use this excuses to seize towns that you want, course you could do that anyways, and then jump ship with them as it were.
4. End game
Taking the first few castles will be easy, the hard part is when you have your enemies cornered. In this case, you will have up to five nobles in a city at a time. Here is the trick though - wait for them to leave. When they sally forth to take back one of your holdings simply swoop in and take the fortress while it is unguarded. Of course if you have enough nobles and a good demo man and can go in anyways then this can be done as well. But remember, it takes the npc's days to actually initiate a siege and in that time you can easily take even the most well defended holding, with retries if you fail the first time.
Once done, just run over to the besieged fort on your side and wait for the enemy to commit or leave, if they do just go into the fort and fight off the waves of enemy Helmsdeep style. And then congratulations, you have changed the course of history for an entire nation, Well done, bravo.
5. Money money money
Now, this is not a profitable venture. You will need money and a lot of it. If you cannot reload to prevent defeats you will lose a lot of mercs and will need to run back to the nearest camp to replensih your numbers. I personally spent 2 million in my campaign against the Crimean Khanatae (chump change mind you), or atleast it felt like such. And they were small - but the Polish.. yeesh, that is going t be a pretty penny.
