Gender Theory

[Cookie Eating Huskarl]

 

[Barky]

You're being really annoying. You barge in to these forums, you state a hell of a lot of asinine opinions and lash out at anyone who dares raise a counterpoint. You've somehow managed to convince yourself that you're the shining paragon of factual correctness and that the rest of the people in this forum is a horde of brainless racists and narrowminded bigots.

No, you're wrong. You're a self-righteous little twerp and what good points you've ever had are completely overshadowed by your whinging, your complaining, your petty hatreds and your hypocrisy. And most of all by your persecution complex.
Most people in this forum (or, well, sub-forum) are highly intelligent, funny, open-minded people and the only thing they as a rule can't tolerate is bull****. Whether it's racist bull****, sexist bull****, homophobic bull**** or your own special brand of bull****, nobody likes it and it is completely counter-productive to any discussion you may have ever wanted to have.

Congratulations. You start off trying to discuss a lot of things but you're so insanely clumsy and obsessively paranoid about it, as well as being an utter hypocrite that it simply isn't worth the bother for anyone. If you had actually read any post or lurked for even a week then you would've realised how wrong you are. Well, you would have if you weren't too busy having your head up your ass.

Your being a bisexual isn't a big ****ing deal. Nobody cared one way or the other but you kept pretending you were being oppressed over it and that your opinions on everything are worth anything more than those of others.

Cookie Eating Huscarl isn't "completely off his rockers". He's a damn fine chap and he's been trying in spite of all evidence to show you how ridiculous you are being.
Same goes for Radalan.
You've raged at Kronic for some bull****; he's just as bi and cis as you are.
You've whinged at TheAthenian. If I'm not mistaken and/or fouling up the terms; she's a bisexual transsexual woman from a society that thinks that's wrong.
You've moaned at Eogan but at least you had the teensy shred of sense to not assume his posts were trying to oppress you.
K-64 is an awesome guy and, if I'm not mistaken, a damn good friend of Kronic. Yet you somehow assume he's a homophobe. Newsflash: disliking whiny self-centered ****s isn't homophobia. It's barkyphobia.

Hell, if you'd paid any attention whatsoever you'd realise just how wrong and just how annoying you are. The vast majority of everyone around here is ****ing great and if you've had awful experiences elsewhere then that's too bad, but you can't take a defensive attitude from elsewhere over to here. It's counter-productive, unfair, hypocritical and completely retarded.

Now go and **** off while I try to find a way to double-ignore you because my dumb ass keeps opening your bull**** posts.



This is obviously not aimed at Amontadillo. He is another fantastic fellow. He also happens to be bisexual, if I'm not mistaken.

So... Much... Dumb... Can't... Handle...

You really need to brush up on identity politics bro.

It's hilarious because I mentioned that I was bisexual a grand total of once, but everybody thinks I am barging into every thread yelling LOOK AT HOW BI I AM. Why would somebody talk about their sexuality in a thread made to talk about people's sexuality...  Also I hardly 'moaned' at Eogan, I disagreed with his points about how to handle offence. I think his opinions on that are stupid and ignorant because they belittle people who do have legitimate reasons to be offended by something as being oversensitive.

 

[K-64]

Okay, exactly how is that dumb? Really, I would like to see an answer to that. If you really think that post is stupid, SHOW it

 

[Barky]

Okay, exactly how is that dumb? Really, I would like to see an answer to that. If you really think that post is stupid, SHOW it

- He presumes that I am 'self-centered', when in reality it is this forum that makes every single ****ing thread I post in yet another battleground.
- He presumes that I am ignorant, when I engaged with Eogan because he wasn't being yet another boring troll.
- He presumes that I make a big deal out of me being bisexual, when I do not. A classic defence of straight privilege is to presume LGBT people make a huge deal out of being non-straight and never shut up about it.
- He ignores any criticism of this forum. I understand why you would do that since we all defend people/places we like. If you want this forum to improve, then you have to take advice from people who aren't just in the AGcrew
- He presumes hanging around with LGBT individuals automatically makes you not homo/bi/transphobic. Same goes for whites hanging around with PoC, and men with women.

 

[AWdeV]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about, bucko. ****ing hell you're a dipstick. With a hefty confirmation bias. I got better **** to do than trying to get through your thick head.

 

[Barky]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about, bucko. ****ing hell you're a dipstick. With a hefty confirmation bias. I got better **** to do than trying to get through your thick head.

Oh no somebody read your post differently from whatever you intended! What ever will you do?!

 

[K-64]

- He presumes that I am 'self-centered', when in reality it is this forum that makes every single ****ing thread I post in yet another battleground.

You turn it into such each time by getting offended whenever your points get disagreed with. Not our fault there.

- He presumes that I am ignorant, when I engaged with Eogan because he wasn't being yet another boring troll.

Refusing to consider the counterpoints does quite openly imply ignorance. Again, not our fault.

- He presumes that I make a big deal out of me being bisexual, when I do not. A classic defence of straight privilege is to presume LGBT people make a huge deal out of being non-straight and never shut up about it.

Then why do you keep going on about "the **** you go through" in every thread you post in?

- He ignores any criticism of this forum. I understand why you would do that since we all defend people/places we like. If you want this forum to improve, then you have to take advice from people who aren't just in the AGcrew

And what advice would that be? An LGBT thread in a board that is very free to discuss it everywhere. I don't see a "Straight white male in a well paying job" thread anywhere, do you? Using that logic, why does an LGBT thread need to be made? Franky, the AG has its own way of working, and has done for years without needing other people barging in and trying to get it run their way. Amd that's how I like it

- He presumes hanging around with LGBT individuals automatically makes you not homo/bi/transphobic. Same goes for whites hanging around with PoC, and men with women.

You presume that every non-LGBT person is a homophobic bigot who hates on the blacks, so I think that's the pot calling on the kettle there

 

[Magorian Aximand]

Winterz anyone?

 

[Barky]

- He presumes that I am 'self-centered', when in reality it is this forum that makes every single ****ing thread I post in yet another battleground.

You turn it into such each time by getting offended whenever your points get disagreed with. Not our fault there.

- He presumes that I am ignorant, when I engaged with Eogan because he wasn't being yet another boring troll.

Refusing to consider the counterpoints does quite openly imply ignorance. Again, not our fault.

- He presumes that I make a big deal out of me being bisexual, when I do not. A classic defence of straight privilege is to presume LGBT people make a huge deal out of being non-straight and never shut up about it.

Then why do you keep going on about "the **** you go through" in every thread you post in?

- He ignores any criticism of this forum. I understand why you would do that since we all defend people/places we like. If you want this forum to improve, then you have to take advice from people who aren't just in the AGcrew

And what advice would that be? An LGBT thread in a board that is very free to discuss it everywhere. I don't see a "Straight white male in a well paying job" thread anywhere, do you? Using that logic, why does an LGBT thread need to be made? Franky, the AG has its own way of working, and has done for years without needing other people barging in and trying to get it run their way. Amd that's how I like it

- He presumes hanging around with LGBT individuals automatically makes you not homo/bi/transphobic. Same goes for whites hanging around with PoC, and men with women.

You presume that every non-LGBT person is a homophobic bigot who hates on the blacks, so I think that's the pot calling on the kettle there

Oh, there I go again, being 'over-sensitive'! Silly me!

Most people who 'criticise' me are actually boring trolls. Eogan isn't. Perhaps if everybody else was more like Eogan I'd be more willing to listen. Eogan didn't insult, belittle, patronise or bully me.

I never talk about this. Why would I talk about my private life on a forum that would end up using it against me in yet another thread?

Rich straight white men already have a lot of space to talk about their own lives and issues. Rich straight white men dominate society, and control virtually everything. Rich straight white men don't need threads to talk about rich straight white male issues because they get to talk about those issues anywhere they want, because they dominate the cultural discourse. LGBT issues get ignored in mainstream places, apart from when they are being charactered or mocked, so LGBT people need to have so called 'safe spaces' in which they can discuss these issues.

And honestly, I just made the LGBT thread because I was curious about who was LGBT here. I though AG being a ~~tolerant and accepting place~~ wouldn't mind having an LGBT thread, but I guess not.

No I don't. And even if I did, the effect wouldn't be as bad since straights don't experience structural oppression like LGBT folks do. However, we live in a homophobic society and it is hard not to pick up unconscious homophobic ideas about LGBT people. Hell, I find myself thinking bigoted things about bisexuality and such and I'm bi, so I dunno how straight people don't do it. 

 

[Cookie Eating Huskarl]

Didn't know AG was so unaccepting of LGBT individuals that they need a safe haven to hide in.

theAthenian, I know you're here. Back into the box with you.

 

[K-64]

Oh, there I go again, being 'over-sensitive'! Silly me!

Most people who 'criticise' me are actually boring trolls. Eogan isn't. Perhaps if everybody else was more like Eogan I'd be more willing to listen. Eogan didn't insult, belittle, patronise or bully me.

I never talk about this. Why would I talk about my private life on a forum that would end up using it against me in yet another thread?

Rich straight white men already have a lot of space to talk about their own lives and issues. Rich straight white men dominate society, and control virtually everything. Rich straight white men don't need threads to talk about rich straight white male issues because they get to talk about those issues anywhere they want, because they dominate the cultural discourse. LGBT issues get ignored in mainstream places, apart from when they are being charactered or mocked, so LGBT people need to have so called 'safe spaces' in which they can discuss these issues.

And honestly, I just made the LGBT thread because I was curious about who was LGBT here. I though AG being a ~~tolerant and accepting place~~ wouldn't mind having an LGBT thread, but I guess not.

No I don't. And even if I did, the effect wouldn't be as bad since straights don't experience structural oppression like LGBT folks do. However, we live in a homophobic society and it is hard not to pick up unconscious homophobic ideas about LGBT people. Hell, I find myself thinking bigoted things about bisexuality and such and I'm bi, so I dunno how straight people don't do it. 

Yup, silly you.

They're not trolling, you just chose to call them such.

They're only against you because you're trying to flood your ideas across the forum, it's your ill-informed points and unwillingness to actually listen which are what people are "against", not your private life.

That's just wrong. they don't need "safe spaces". Never have, never will.

The AG is a tolerant and accepting place. So much so that they don't NEED an LGBT thread.

Then that makes you a bigot, doesn't it. Just because you think those thoughts, doesn't mean everyone else does

 

[Barky]

Oh, there I go again, being 'over-sensitive'! Silly me!

Most people who 'criticise' me are actually boring trolls. Eogan isn't. Perhaps if everybody else was more like Eogan I'd be more willing to listen. Eogan didn't insult, belittle, patronise or bully me.

I never talk about this. Why would I talk about my private life on a forum that would end up using it against me in yet another thread?

Rich straight white men already have a lot of space to talk about their own lives and issues. Rich straight white men dominate society, and control virtually everything. Rich straight white men don't need threads to talk about rich straight white male issues because they get to talk about those issues anywhere they want, because they dominate the cultural discourse. LGBT issues get ignored in mainstream places, apart from when they are being charactered or mocked, so LGBT people need to have so called 'safe spaces' in which they can discuss these issues.

And honestly, I just made the LGBT thread because I was curious about who was LGBT here. I though AG being a ~~tolerant and accepting place~~ wouldn't mind having an LGBT thread, but I guess not.

No I don't. And even if I did, the effect wouldn't be as bad since straights don't experience structural oppression like LGBT folks do. However, we live in a homophobic society and it is hard not to pick up unconscious homophobic ideas about LGBT people. Hell, I find myself thinking bigoted things about bisexuality and such and I'm bi, so I dunno how straight people don't do it. 

Yup, silly you.

They're not trolling, you just chose to call them such.

They're only against you because you're trying to flood your ideas across the forum, it's your ill-informed points and unwillingness to actually listen which are what people are "against", not your private life.

That's just wrong. they don't need "safe spaces". Never have, never will.

The AG is a tolerant and accepting place. So much so that they don't NEED an LGBT thread.

Then that makes you a bigot, doesn't it. Just because you think those thoughts, doesn't mean everyone else does

This post 

In wider society (Not AG obviously because it is such a wonderful, accepting tolerant place) there is a lot of hatred and belittlement of LGBT individuals and some of us feel that we need somewhere that will take our issues seriously and let us lead the conversation for once. It is not an attempted of 'hemming' in LGBT individuals as I have been criticised for, it is a place where LGBT people can go and feel safe. Not everybody wants to participate in them, and that's fine. Doesn't make them any less necessary for others, how ever.

Oh, I don't listen to most posts because they are either insults, or the same defences I've heard a thousand times irl or on other forums.

 

[K-64]

But in the AG you don't bloody need to, that's my point. The making of that thread was an exercise in pointlessness as this board is more accepting than needing a separate "haven".

 

[Úlfheðinn]

As a black Swede who works as a Wizard, I hereby declare this thread to be offensive to Black Swedish Wizards everywhere.

I demand that this thread be renamed, "Vodka and how it is the solution to all of life's problems" and that a thread be made detailing the difficulties of Black Swedish Wizards in modern society.

 

[Barky]

But in the AG you don't bloody need to, that's my point. The making of that thread was an exercise in pointlessness as this board is more accepting than needing a separate "haven".

See what I mean when I accuse people of being defensive around here?

 

[Cookie Eating Huskarl]

As a black Swede who works as a Wizard, I hereby declare this thread to be offensive to Black Swedish Wizards everywhere.

I demand that this thread be renamed, "Vodka and how it is the solution to all of life's problems" and that a thread be made detailing the difficulties of Black Swedish Wizards in modern society.

Less posting, more conjuring vodka out of potatoes.

 

[K-64]

But in the AG you don't bloody need to, that's my point. The making of that thread was an exercise in pointlessness as this board is more accepting than needing a separate "haven".

See what I mean when I accuse people of being defensive around here?

That wasn't me being defensive, that was me trying to get my point across. There is a vast difference. One requires the point to actually be acknowledged

 

[Magorian Aximand]

I'm a while, straight male. Don't meet the rich part sadly. But I still experience a certain degree of oppression. Why? I'm an atheist. It's virtually impossible for me to be elected into public office, the majority of the country (upon learning that I'm an atheist) would distrust me even more than sex offenders, and I have to remain silent about who I am in a great deal of social situations. Especially because of where I live. Believe me when I tell you, I get the feeling. Further, I am a strong advocate for LGBT rights, so I've seen firsthand the **** thrown your way.

But a thread here for atheists to just come and talk about being atheists would be purposeless on  this forum. We get a great deal of religion threads, but they're debate threads. Not really the same thing.

Stick up for what you believe in when the opportunity presents itself. If you want to speak with an LGBT member of the forum, you can use a thread appropriate for the given topic, or via PM. Just don't get butt-hurt when an admin deems a useless thread to be... useless. And don't take it out on everyone else, and assume that they're bigots themselves.

Like I've said, I'm a big supporter of the LGBT community. Right now I have a strong dislike for you. You should try to realize that my dislike has nothing to do with your sexual preferences.

 

[Oberyn]

But in the AG you don't bloody need to, that's my point. The making of that thread was an exercise in pointlessness as this board is more accepting than needing a separate "haven".

See what I mean when I accuse people of being defensive around here?

Seriously, all you have to do is suggest to people that they are inherently horrible because of their ethnicity and they get all uppity. What a bunch of uptight whiners.

 

[Barky]

But in the AG you don't bloody need to, that's my point. The making of that thread was an exercise in pointlessness as this board is more accepting than needing a separate "haven".

See what I mean when I accuse people of being defensive around here?

That wasn't me being defensive, that was me trying to get my point across. There is a vast difference. One requires the point to actually be acknowledged

This forum isn't as half as tolerant or accepting as you think it is.

If this forum is so tolerant why did the very idea of an LGBT thread offend everyone so much?