Gang rape victim lashed and into jail!
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Yeah. Basically.
Ok, this one is disgusting... the girl shouldn't have been breaking the law, but seriously... 200 lashes?
Ok, this one is disgusting... the girl shouldn't have been breaking the law, but seriously... 200 lashes?
Indeed someone should do something!
But it's sad that the horror-regime of Saudi Arabia only gets attention
when things like this is leaked to the outside world - (and the woman
was the one telling the outside world about it. Great respect! )
Saudi Arabia decapitates people on the streets and let men hold their
wives captive in their own homes. They simply can't leave the house
unless accompanied by a man from the family!!!
Her only crime was to betray her husband and telling the western press
about her punishment - and then it was doubled
ALL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD SHOULD CONSTANTLY PUT PRESSURE
ON SAUDI ARABIA TO BRING DOWN THE RELIGIOUS HORROR REGIME!!!
But it's sad that the horror-regime of Saudi Arabia only gets attention
when things like this is leaked to the outside world - (and the woman
was the one telling the outside world about it. Great respect!
)Saudi Arabia decapitates people on the streets and let men hold their
wives captive in their own homes. They simply can't leave the house
unless accompanied by a man from the family!!!
Her only crime was to betray her husband and telling the western press
about her punishment - and then it was doubled
ALL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD SHOULD CONSTANTLY PUT PRESSURE
ON SAUDI ARABIA TO BRING DOWN THE RELIGIOUS HORROR REGIME!!!
Adorno 说:Indeed someone should do something!
But it's sad that the horror-regime of Saudi Arabia only gets attention
when things like this is leaked to the outside world - (and the woman
was the one telling the outside world about it. Great respect!
Saudi Arabia decapitates people on the streets and let men hold their
wives captive in their own homes. They simply can't leave the house
unless accompanied by a man from the family!!!
Her only crime was to betray her husband and telling the western press
about her punishment - and then it was doubled
ALL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD SHOULD CONSTANTLY PUT PRESSURE
ON SAUDI ARABIA TO BRING DOWN THE RELIGIOUS HORROR REGIME!!!
Dude... it's not religious.
and she wasn't betraying her husband, she was with a man from another family without being in the presence of a man from her own family.
All the laws in Saudi Arabia are justified via the laws in the Koran,
hence the medieval punishment of whipping and mutilation (it's
taken directly from the holy scriptures).
And the regime is lead by imams.
So what do you mean it's not religious?
And the thing about betraying her husband... I read somewhere
else that she had admitted adultery. But I may be wrong.
Anyway it's not that important...
hence the medieval punishment of whipping and mutilation (it's
taken directly from the holy scriptures).
And the regime is lead by imams.
So what do you mean it's not religious?
And the thing about betraying her husband... I read somewhere
else that she had admitted adultery. But I may be wrong.
Anyway it's not that important...
Cirdan
Master Knight
It's not led by imams, but by a king. The name "Kingdom of Saudi Arabia" (or more correctly, "Saudi Arab Kingdom") is sort of a dead giveaway to that. Also, the punishment being applied for rape in this case is hardly in line with the Qur'an...but they're Wahhabists, what do you expect from graveyard vandalising scum?
Well, a lot of Muslims do think that's what Islam is about. What the dictionary or encyclopedia says is irrelevant, what people who call themselves Muslims think and do makes Islam what it is. A religion also isn't fixed, it can also evolve, get more hardline or get more 'liberal' with time.
If people don't want to be associated with those actions they should stop calling themselves Muslims or praising 'real' Shariah, misunderstood 'peaceful Jihad' and all the rest of that bull****. If it was really an issue 'moderate Muslims' would start their own breakaway faction, like the Protestants or Orthodox did with Catholicism, and break all ties with the hardliners. You can't retain your credibility just by 'condemning' your co-religionists - if there are a serious issues like they make out there are they can't be in the same religion at all.
Just like you can't call yourself a National Socialist and insist you're just a mainstream democrat, or a Communist and be for free markets.
For centuries, especially the period of the Prophet Muhammed and the past shows us everything. Before Islam, Kaabe was a center of paganism and the leaders of the administrator sher'iats gain what the people give to their godly statues. Today's no different from that day, only the religion which the administrators earn money from has changed. Well, actually those people are TOTALLY ignorant.
What a coincidence is that the Muslims in that era called the pagan leader (who was also the Prophet Muhammed's uncle) "Ebu Cahil (pronounciation: Abu Jahil)" means "The Father of the Ingorants".
I agree. Today's Saudi Arabia only continues its ancestor's "custom". I think this punishment (or torture, whatever you call), is something like she made a dissappointment to their people. It's all the same in today's Turkey's surviving sher'iats. Never supported by the law of course.
What a coincidence is that the Muslims in that era called the pagan leader (who was also the Prophet Muhammed's uncle) "Ebu Cahil (pronounciation: Abu Jahil)" means "The Father of the Ingorants".
dagorkan 说:
I agree. Today's Saudi Arabia only continues its ancestor's "custom". I think this punishment (or torture, whatever you call), is something like she made a dissappointment to their people. It's all the same in today's Turkey's surviving sher'iats. Never supported by the law of course.
You are af course right that Saudi Arabia is a 'kingdom'.Cirdan 说:
That the country is lead by imams is my own interpretation
since all laws in Saudi Arabia are according to shari'a and
the judges of the various courts are appointed by the king
but on recommendation from the supreme judicial court,
which is based on shar'ia.
In short the constitution of Saudi Arabia is based on the Qur'an
and Saudi Arabia is a theocratic state with laws based on sharia.
You say the laws are hardly in line with the Qur'an but that's just
interpretation. They have another interpretation in Saudi Arabia,
and that interpretation is carried out everyday in the courts.
NB: I have no idea what Wahhabists is...
Cirdan
Master Knight
Iran's elections are actually fairer than America's--but then, they can be, since the clergy can veto anything the President or Parliament tries to do 
Do you actually think I'm Muslim?
Still, though, you do realise there's a reason for labels such as "Wahhabist" and whatnot?
Adorno: A Wahhabist is a follower of Abdul Wahhab, an 18th century (pseudo-)Sunni theologian whose (insane) theories were adopted by the house of Sau'ud. Their earliest claim to fame involves vdestroying graveyards near Mecca and Medina, which they've done several times since as well, which is why I commonly refer to them as graveyard vandalising scum. That's what they are, after all.
EDIT: I fail to see how Shariah has anything to do with imprisoning rapists IIRC, rape is supposed to fetch the death sentence.
Tell that to the Chinese. They've been doing it for almost twenty years, you know?
Do you actually think I'm Muslim?
Still, though, you do realise there's a reason for labels such as "Wahhabist" and whatnot?
Adorno: A Wahhabist is a follower of Abdul Wahhab, an 18th century (pseudo-)Sunni theologian whose (insane) theories were adopted by the house of Sau'ud. Their earliest claim to fame involves vdestroying graveyards near Mecca and Medina, which they've done several times since as well, which is why I commonly refer to them as graveyard vandalising scum. That's what they are, after all.
EDIT: I fail to see how Shariah has anything to do with imprisoning rapists
IIRC, rape is supposed to fetch the death sentence.Don't you think it's kind of ironic to call some theologists insane and some not? They all have their invisible friends.
(Not that -I- am calling anyone insane, just questioning the logic... and yes, I know it's not compulsory to believe in the supernatural to study theology, but basing on my observations atheist/agnostic/nihilistic theologists are far and in-between).
(Not that -I- am calling anyone insane, just questioning the logic... and yes, I know it's not compulsory to believe in the supernatural to study theology, but basing on my observations atheist/agnostic/nihilistic theologists are far and in-between).
WHAT! Cirdan you state that Iranian elections "are actually fairer than America's"!!!
How do you explain that a (Guardian) Council of about twelve men (men!) who
haven't been elected by the population via free elections, get to approve the
candidates for president?
In other words: A handfull of men get to decide who can run for president in Iran.
That can't be very democratic, unless it's a matter of interpretation like the Qur'an
Don't get me wrong, I see many problems with American elections such as the
rigorous 2 party system, the enormous amount of money needed to run for president,
that people have to actively register to vote etc.
How do you explain that a (Guardian) Council of about twelve men (men!) who
haven't been elected by the population via free elections, get to approve the
candidates for president?
In other words: A handfull of men get to decide who can run for president in Iran.
That can't be very democratic, unless it's a matter of interpretation like the Qur'an
Don't get me wrong, I see many problems with American elections such as the
rigorous 2 party system, the enormous amount of money needed to run for president,
that people have to actively register to vote etc.
Explain the functional difference between having a council select a suitable candidate from the elite, or simply pricing the entry fee so high that only the elite can afford to stand.Adorno 说:
Anyway, complete democracy is anarchy. Even over here in the UK we have the House of Lords, none of whom are elected.
Oh come on. The HoL have no real power. If they really tried to stand up to parliament they'd simply be closed down. It's only because they do what they're told that they're still around leeching public resources.
