Game freezes

[Inspector Palmu]

I have a really really annoying bug that no one else seems to be having. The game will play just fine, but then suddenly it will freeze completely in battle. This does not happen every time, and seems completely random to me. Sometimes I can play for almost an hour before it happens. The freeze is a total hangup, nothing moves, only way out is to reboot.

I have tried probably every setting in the config file, I have reinstalled Windows (finally...), I tried disabling my onboard soundcard so it's not a sound related issue, I just cant think of anything more. I haven't noticed any recurring thing with the freezes besides being in battle. It's a really great game and I would have registered many days ago if it wouldn't be for this bug. Besides this freezing thing I haven't had any other problems.

If any of you are/were having this problem I'd like to hear about it. If you need any more info just ask.

 

[armagan]

Hi Inspector Palmu,

I would suggest reducing frame rate limit dramatically to say, 40 and see what happens. You could also reduce battle size. If those help it could be due to your machine/graphics card overheating. If that doesn't solve it, perhaps you could post your machine's specs. That could give something to work with for troubleshooting.

 

[Inspector Palmu]

Ok, I limited the fps to 40 and took the battle size slider all the way to the left and it seems to work. I haven't had any freezes since. The battles do take a lot longer because there are so few people on at once, and usually after winning it goes on to round 2.

I did buy the game and have been playing with the fps at 40 and testing the battle slider and I think the slider position has a lot to do with crashing. When it was all to the left the game didn't crash once, and at halfway to middle I had two crashes to desktop during a battle. Then when I tried to enter Zendar the game hanged up at the map screen, but the mouse cursor did still move. Still had to reboot because ctrl+alt+del ctrl+esc alt+tab combos didn't do anything.

I can't really see how it could be my graphics card overheating, because I can play other heavier games for hours on end without problems.

Here's what dxdiag has to say about my computer:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/27/2005, 18:34:58
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-215
Language: English (Regional Setting: Finnish)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-6730
BIOS: Version 1.00
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 204MB used, 1045MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
DirectDraw test: All tests were successful.
Direct3D test: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.


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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9700 PRO
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9700 PRO AGP (0x4E44)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_1002&DEV_4E44&SUBSYS_00041002&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6525 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/23/2005 06:01:17, 225280 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/23/2005 06:00:57, 1034752 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D04-11CF-CF6A-0E20A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E44
SubSys ID: 0x00041002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Devices
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Description: SiS 7012 Wave
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_7012&SUBSYS_73001462&REV_A0
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: sis7012.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.6120 (English)
Driver Attributes: Beta Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 11/3/2004 14:14:26, 267136 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Silicon Integrated Systems Corp.(1.12.06)
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 2.4 GB
Total Space: 6.2 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST36531A

Drive: D:
Free Space: 6.3 GB
Total Space: 50.0 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3200822A

Drive: E:
Free Space: 3.2 GB
Total Space: 50.0 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3200822A

Drive: F:
Free Space: 0.8 GB
Total Space: 50.0 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3200822A

Drive: G:
Free Space: 5.9 GB
Total Space: 40.8 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3200822A

Drive: H:
Model: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8161B
Driver: c:windowssystem32driverscdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Finnish), 8/4/2004 04:07:00, 49536 bytes

Drive: I:
Model: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1653S
Driver: c:windowssystem32driverscdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Finnish), 8/4/2004 04:07:00, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
Device ID: PCIVEN_10EC&DEV_8139&SUBSYS_813910EC&REV_103&61AAA01&0&48

Name: SiS 7012 Audio Driver
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_7012&SUBSYS_73001462&REV_A03&61AAA01&0&17

Name: SiS PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_7002&SUBSYS_54701462&REV_003&61AAA01&0&1B

Name: SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_7001&SUBSYS_73001462&REV_0F3&61AAA01&0&19

Name: SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_7001&SUBSYS_73001462&REV_0F3&61AAA01&0&18

Name: SiS 5513 IDE UDMA Controller
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_5513&SUBSYS_73001462&REV_003&61AAA01&0&15

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_0655&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_003&61AAA01&0&00

Name: SIS PCI to ISA bridge
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_253&61AAA01&0&10

Name: SiS Accelerated Graphics Port
Device ID: PCIVEN_1039&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_003&61AAA01&0&08

Name: RADEON 9700 PRO - Secondary
Device ID: PCIVEN_1002&DEV_4E64&SUBSYS_00051002&REV_004&3525EC23&0&0108

Name: RADEON 9700 PRO
Device ID: PCIVEN_1002&DEV_4E44&SUBSYS_00041002&REV_004&3525EC23&0&0008

 

[armagan]

Thanks for the info. I am increasing the size of some internal buffers in the next version (0.623). Maybe that will help. I can't really think of anything else, accept for the usual "Make sure you have the latest drivers"

 

[Inspector Palmu]

This just in. I did save my game maybe two seconds before i rode into town (Zendar) and the game crashed. Now when I press the restore a game button at the title screen, the game crashes and gives this error:

I have no idea what that means. Hope it helps.

 

[armagan]

Is there any possibility that you are launching the wrong version of Mount&Blade?

 

[Inspector Palmu]

No I really don't think so. I only have one install of it, and I launch it with the short cut.

I flashed my 9700 radeon back to non-pro, I forgot I put a pro bios in it a year back. It has pretty much solved my problems I think. I just played many hours to level 11 or something, so I'm happy . It did crash to desktop at the end, but I need to go to sleep anyways.

Thanks for all the help.