"Foxy Knoxy" convicted

[The Elusive Mr. Hunt]

Then she should have done a better job of it than accusing an innocent man. I can't abide liars.

Especially people that make such a hash of it I'll have you know, when I pin a murder I committed on someone it'll bloody stick.

Hmm, I read that as when you murder someone it'll be with a bloody stick.

 

[Ronan]

You can't abide anyone!

On a more serious note, why are so many people of the opinion she's innocent?

Because the evidence is crap?

She does seem like a ***** so I don't know if I even care about if she's quilty or not. A person who accuses an innocent man just to get off the hook can go to jail for all I care.

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

Don't you mean you cant abide bad liars? There may be a whole host of liars you're perfectly happy with because they're good liars, thus you haven't realised they are, in fact, liars.

Liars almost always end up implicating themselves sooner or later, especially when the web of lies is intricate enough.

 

[AWdeV]

Then she should have done a better job of it than accusing an innocent man. I can't abide liars.

Especially people that make such a hash of it I'll have you know, when I pin a murder I committed on someone it'll bloody stick.

Hmm, I read that as when you murder someone it'll be with a bloody stick.

I thought he meant he was going to pin it on a bloody (now, atleast) stick. 

 

[Mage246]

Hmm, DNA was found on the kitchen knife used for the murder, no wonder, she lived there and probably used that knife every day.

The knife you're referring to there was at Knox's boyfriend's house, it had both the victims and the suspects (on the blade and handle, respectively) DNA on it.

You mean the knife that didn't match any of the stab wounds or any other evidence of the crime? And that had DNA evidence that was too small to properly analyze?

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

You mean the knife that didn't match any of the stab wounds or any other evidence of the crime? And that had DNA evidence that was too small to properly analyze?

It was the lying that raised my suspicions.

 

[Archonsod]

You mean the knife that didn't match any of the stab wounds or any other evidence of the crime? And that had DNA evidence that was too small to properly analyze?

"as alleged by the defence"

 

[ash12181987]

It will be interesting to see how it pans out once she reaches appeal. Missed that part about the guy already being convicted in a separate court.

Now pardon me as I play devil's advocate a moment here:

My question is: How did they come to the conclusion that the knife wounds were not caused by the knife in question? It mentions experts being called to argue the DNA, but nothing other than a blurb on the knife. Further, how was it too little? They got a result, and while it is not mentioned one could infer it possessed a reasonable margin of error. Unless the italian forensic investigators are trained by Wise women, and are completely pants on head retarded that is. The Defense is Suppose to cast Doubt on evidence, it's what they Do... They are Even suppose to say that they honestly Like the people they defend, it can be acting... it can be genuine, but god knows we're not getting even a fraction of the story on the News, that is for sure (A good example being that article placed up earlier)

And: there could be a million trivial reasons she lied. She could be omitting details because she's worried it might work against her, all the while being otherwise benign. Or on the flip side she could be Completely guilty.

And on a side note, why are people deciding from an article that this girl is decent? Your meant to feel empathy... She could be a complete ***** though, hell no one here has Met her. I mean, you want to know a Nice Guy by all accounts? Jeffrey Dahmer

 

[Wurzelmann]

That said, more countries should have death sentences.

True. How is keeping someone locked up in a cell for the rest of his life more humane than just executing him? The convict's life is over anyway.

That's just stupid and barbaric. 


I hope the US will realise it someday.

 

[Archonsod]

Well, a more detailed analysis of the trial:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6945967.ece

 

[Shatari]

Believe it or not, Italy isn't run by the mafia. Jury folks aren't bumped off if they disagree with someone.

It is however predominantly Facist (and I don't mean in the anarchist "Ooh! They're oppressing me!" sort of way*). When you live in a literal police state, it pays not to embarrass the police or the state. I don't know the details behind this trial, but I do know that "Italian justice" deserves the bunny ears around it.


*No offense Koby.

 

[Archonsod]

Italy hasn't been fascist since they shot Mussolini Their membership of the EU and it's drive to unify criminal practice across member states would also preclude them being a police state.

 

[Pellagus]

I don't think people in the US saying Italian justice is **** is going to help her case any. My guess is she will probably be released on appeal, most likely after the US leans on Italy a bit, although this outcome depends on how much of a fuss the US media are putting up at home.

Innocent or not, her life is ****ed either way and there'll always be people who assume she's guilty. Also I reckon some people are assuming she's innocent because she's hot.

 

[AWdeV]

I don't think a bragging oaf like Berlusconi would give a rat's arse about the US leaning on him.

 

[The Elusive Mr. Hunt]

He'd let her off if they promised him a night with Miss America.

 

[AWdeV]

Heck, he'd demand it just to start negotiating whether or not there'll be negotiations. (bastard word)

 

[FrisianDude]

Did I **** up my phrasing again?

Yeah. "x Paling in comparison to y" means x is inferior to y.

 

[Pellagus]

If it was the UK and this girl was english, the press would be all over this screaming for her to be sent home (some of them are actually doing this anyway). Depending on the level of hysteria created, the government would probably end up forced into making some sort of gesture for her release.

I don't think a bragging oaf like Berlusconi would give a rat's arse about the US leaning on him.

Possibly a trade deal that sees Italy treated favourably in a few years time might see her unexpectedly pardoned or quietly released into US custody. Or they might petition for her to serve out her sentence in the US.

 

[AWdeV]

Some underhanded deals? Sounds fishy. 

 

[Bellum]

Its pretty obvious she's guilty as sin. Blaming an innocent, and then trying to force ALL the blame on another dude just looks like she was trying to skirm out of it.

I know when I'm innocent of a crime I never try to squirm out of being convicted of it.

Then she should have done a better job of it than accusing an innocent man. I can't abide liars.

That justifies a murder conviction?