Floris 2.5 Beta // Last Beta Round

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LAB 说:
Got a crash to desktop when I used a copy of a 2.41a save-game ("Load error: Number of Scenes in file: 649, exceeds 579")
Floris 2.5 is not save game compatible with any previous version of Floris.

I encountered at least seven ladies in the lords hall of Sargoth, even though there isn't a party going on (or Konungr Ragnar is popular with the ladies)
There appears to be something broken with the aristocracy which we are looking into.  And Ragnar is just that popular with the ladies.  It's the crown.

Major (personal) issue: I don't get this interpretation of tournaments (will disable it, got an error during the tournament though, see this screenshot
Shame to hear it, but that is why the option to disable is available.  The error in this screenshot has been taken care of.  Thanks for the information.

- In the above list there's a "Error Knight 1 1 wife should not appear ingame"-entry amongst the NPC's
This will be fixed in the next patch.

Shirebury 说:
Would a save from the Beta be compatible with the final release?
Could you continue playing?  Probably, but issues like the aristocracy being wrecked would definitely not get fixed without a new game.  Additionally some additional graphical tweaks were made that may have amusing side effects on a continued game.
 
Basic info
Warband 1.143
Expanded troop trees
New female non-noble

Additional info
Have not changed settings with TweakMB.
Battlesizer: 250.
Forgive the inconsistent tense; am writing some comments as issues come up and others in retrospect.

Bug 1 (minor, cosmetic): When viewing the upgrade tree of any faction, clicking on a specific unit type and then returning to tree view causes the page title to change to "Freelancers". However, the page still shows the correct troop tree. Have tried this with random Swadian, Vaegir, and Khergit units; this happened every time.



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Questionable content item 1 (troop type): The Swadian I6 Highlander's skills are tank-like, with 6 points in Shield and better 1-hand prof than 2-hand prof. However, his equipment list contains no shields and only one of five possible weapons is a 1-hander. Is this intended or an oversight?



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Bug 2 (moderate?, functional): After viewing Upgrade Trees, I exited to the root Reports menu and then tried to click back into Upgrade Trees. This caused the Sovereignty Reports screen to pop up instead.



a. Exiting the Reports menu altogether did not fix the problem. I now cannot access the Upgrade Trees menu at all.
b. View All Items still works fine.
c. After Viewing All Items, attempting to view Upgrade Trees calls up error messages.



d. Reloading the game fixed the issue.
e. I then tabbed back and forth between Root and Upgrade Trees without problems.
f. However, clicking on one single Swadian unit in the UT caused the problem to reappear.
g. This time, the screen that came up was "Dictate Peace Terms" instead.

I begin to suspect this may be linked to Bug 1, meaning that that bug may not be, as I had assumed, merely cosmetic.

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Questionable content item 2 (troop type): The Swadian A5 Sheriff has only crossbow proficiency but only uses bows.



Questionable content item 3 (weapon): One of my starting weapons is a scythe. While mounted, I can only thrust with it, not swing it, which is a little odd considering the nature of the weapon.

Language item 1: There are a number of errors in Nadia's first-meeting speech. Please refer to the following screenshot.



1a, 1b: If I am not mistaken, you should not capitalize a word that follows three ellipsis points. A couple of quick references: A, B.

2: I assume she is still on the run? If so, "are" here is more properly "have been".

3: Typo: "awful".

The next paragraph contains a rather odd statement:



Finally, the comma in the next screencap changes the meaning of the sentence it belongs to.



With the comma: So please, dear madame, protect me from everyone who wants to kill me, just because I am a woman! = Please protect me because I am a woman.

Without the comma: So please, dear madame, protect me from everyone who wants to kill me just because I am a woman! = Please protect me from (extreme) sexual discrimination.

Edit: Oh yes, forgot to mention this earlier: why "madame" instead of "madam"? Is Nadia French-ish? (Honest question; not being snarky.)

Bug 3 (minor, subject/object): If you talk to a merchant you have hired while you are in town and tell him to get ready to leave, you will be the one responding with, "Of course, master." :grin:

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Bug 4 (goods):

1. Spices are now "Dummy items".
2. Pork still comes from undead pigs, and olives are still invisible.



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Bug 5 (fog of war):

With FoW enabled, it is still possible to navigate directly to any location by using Show On Map from the Locations menu. Is this working as intended?

Bug 6 (Merchant bonus):

Having 1-4 merchants in your party is supposed to give a +1 Trade bonus. There is 1 merchant in my company.

My character currently has a basic Trade skill of 2, which gives a bonus of +1.

My final Trade level is 3+1 and not 2+2. It's the same final value, of course, but this is somewhat confusing.

Edit: Just hired Ghazwan and a second merchant. Oddly enough, though Ghazwan is a better Trader than I am (base 4 vs. 2), the Party display shows that I am the primary Trader (3+2, which incidentally gives an incorrect total).

Disbanding both Merchants makes Ghazwan the default Trader (3+1, also incorrect). Disbanding just one Merchant effects no change.

Reloading and disbanding Ghazwan instead interestingly also does not result in a change. Now when I go one step further and disband 1 Merchant, my display still shows 3+2... but contrast that with my earlier observation that having 1 Merchant in my party gives me a Trade score of 3+1, not 3+2.

Something rather funky is going on here.

Bug 7 (minor, speech): The Praven harbourmaster seems unable to tell that my character is female. Also, his speech has not been sandwiched between quotation marks.



Bug 8 (moderate, setting): In tournament options, Renown Scaling is always unticked each time you visit the Display Settings screen. It is unclear to me at this stage if the option resets itself when you visit the settings screen or if it is not properly saved when you exit the screen.

Bug 9 (minor, conversation): I was just speaking with Count Tredian in Derchios Castle when I brought up the possibility of working for him. He offered me a place in his army, and I chose the "reconsider" option, which instead caused me to try to talk to him in private.

Bug 10 (major, quest): I had completed Duke Clais's quest to collect taxes from Dhirim, but had gone the bleeding heart route and reduced the collection amount. After this, I travelled to Praven, took part in and lost a tournament, and attended the feast.

At the feast, I spoke with Count Plais and signed up with his army. I then spoke to Duke Clais, who was standing in the same hall, and found that there was no quest completion option (just "still working" and "can no longer do it"). Taking personal leave or retiring from Plais's army does no good - the quest is marked as completed but I no longer seem able to turn it in. Leaving and re-entering Praven does not solve the problem either.

Reloading the game and talking to Duke Clais before becoming a part of an army was the only solution I found.

Bug 11 (major, tournament exploit): This time, I joined King Harlaus's army instead. I then took leave to see if my companions would return - they did, except they were returned to my party in reverse order. No biggie.

However, when I entered Praven again, I found that the tournament had reset - I could now take part in the tournament all over again after I had just lost it.

Bug 12 (moderate, dialogue option): After returning to Harlaus's army, I tried to leave Praven and ended up at the enlisted soldier's root menu, which is probably correct behaviour. However, electing to speak with my commander (Harlaus, who was also hosting the tournament/feast in Praven at the moment) caused me to enter the town instead.

Oh ya. Rejoining Harlaus also caused the tournament to be reset yet again.



Bug 13 (major, property): Buying land is not working for me. I bought 1 acre in Praven and another in Reyvadin, but for two consecutive weeks the bank report has been showing that I own nothing.



Bug 14 (minor, graphics): While travelling as part of Harlaus's army, I hit my inventory button and found that Harlaus had melted the rear half of my horse.  :shock:



Exiting and re-entering the Inventory screen did not make my horse better again.

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Bug 15 (freelancer - deserting):

I deserted from Harlaus's army and was told I was now wanted. However, his forces did not chase me, and when I talked to him the next day, he was only slightly unhappy with me but still more than willing to give me quests, etc. Is this because deserting does not decrement faction and/or noble relationship by a large enough amount?



Bug 16? (properties):

Apparently, not only are my lands not showing up on the finance screen, my enterprises aren't either. Is this related to being enlisted? Note that I enlisted while in a castle, not in the field.

Bug 17 (major, freelancer):

If I am not mistaken, when you enlist with an army, your own private company is supposed to wait in Hammerspace for you. When you take leave or retire from service, they will welcome you back with open arms.

Except that some of them seem to randomly disappear in your absence...

While trying to take a leave of absence, I accidentally left Harlaus's employ. [Note: perhaps an are-you-sure dialogue here would be a good idea.] I then immediately re-enlisted, forgetting that I was in the field. This caused a battle prep screen to come up (no screenshot, sorry - it's the biege screen with the announcement that you are facing an army of such-and-such size) and pretty much hang the game. I was forced to shut down the game from Windows.

I restarted Warband and immediately took leave. At that point, I happened to check my Party screen and was surprised to find that my party composition was incorrect. Feeling a bit weirded out and thinking my memory must have failed me, I reloaded and tried again and got a different group. I did this a few more times consecutively, each time following exactly the same steps (reload -> take leave -> check Party), and each time getting different party members.



You will note from the screenshot that both companions and normal hirelings can be lost this way.

Very odd, to say the least.

Edit: Interesting. In my current load, Nadia has been lost. However, when I talk to Travellers, I don't get the choice to locate her.

Edit 2: Very interesting. I just visited every town in Calradia using Ctrl+LMB and Nadia is nowhere to be found. It's almost as if she has been wiped from existence.
 
Tried another new game again today, and every couple of battles I'm still shoved to my desktop to be told told can't load viking weapons, Textures\vikinweapons1_spec.dds. Every so often that crashes the game too.

Edit: Using 1.143, Windows 7 64 bit.
 
linthead4504 说:
Tried another new game again today, and every couple of battles I'm still shoved to my desktop to be told told can't load viking weapons, Textures\vikinweapons1_spec.dds. Every so often that crashes the game too.

Edit: Using 1.143, Windows 7 64 bit.

looking into it thank you :smile:
 
LAB 说:
The port-graphic in cities doesn't contrast enough with the words on top of it, it might cause problems to people with poor eyesight.[/list]
Hovering your mouse over them makes them light up in bright green. For now that should be sufficient for reading.
 
Hm...Does it seem only to me that the player is making too much money?I borrowed 5k from the bank i made a pretty nice army.I raided 3 villages and sold out the goods and i had like 10000 gold :grin:......Maybe ,maybe ::grin: i tried to switch the economy tweaks from every side from disabled to high but ...there is no big difference :smile:
 
powerclick 说:
Hm...Does it seem only to me that the player is making too much money?I borrowed 5k from the bank i made a pretty nice army.I raided 3 villages and sold out the goods and i had like 10000 gold :grin:......Maybe ,maybe ::grin: i tried to switch the economy tweaks from every side from disabled to high but ...there is no big difference :smile:
Thats exactly how it had hoped the bank would be used. You can get rich with it, but you have to do something for it. It doesnt just accumulate anymore.

Do other folks think the bank is too easy? Should the deadline be shorter? Should the amount of money be lower for a starting player?

For lengthy posts, this might be a good place: Discussing features of 2.5
 
Hmmm, I crash whenever I try to go to the tavern in first town (Reyjavic).

I have 1.143 and DLed from Megaupload.

Thanks for any help.
 
Duh 说:
Load textures on demand is ticked i presume? Available ram is more than 2GB? If you have a 32 bit system , you applied the memory fix from the faq?

FOLKS FOR CRASHES LETS HEAD TO THE SUPPORT SECTION
Makes it easier to keep an overview :wink:

edit: is it only that particular tavern? or all taverns?
 
12oz Jesus 说:
Hmmm, I crash whenever I try to go to the tavern in first town (Reyjavic).
Most likely is the stock Warband version 1.143 tavern crash.
cmpxchg8b 说:
Changing
插入代码块:
disable_moveable_flag_optimization = 0
to
插入代码块:
disable_moveable_flag_optimization = 1
in module.ini should fix the CTD
 
This has been said previous, but it is impossible to marry. All ladies, when talked to, have a no relation with everyone. The lords simply say that no one is elligible to wed. The only type of relations I have seen so far are already married people.
 
Started a new game. Can't remember all the options I chose at start, but I started off in the Vageirs area.

3 bugs I've noticed so far.

1) Was doing sparring at the training field near Dhirim, graphical glitch. FPS slowed considerably. I won the fight and the next time it loaded it was fine.

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2) The "morale boost" on food items kept changing all the time. Started at like 3800 morale then dipped to 0 then steadily increased the more I bought stuff.  This was in Reyvadin :neutral:

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3) I was doing the starting quest at the bandit hideout. Had a group of 6 Vageirs troops I2 and 4 Swadian peasants, killed 2 of the bandits and suddenly was warped to a cave about 100 feet away from the fighting. My troops no longer had my icon above their head nor would they respond to commands. There was also a clone of my character standing still beside me...  :shock: I couldn't exit the area and my troops and the bandits wandered off.

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I'm using the Steam version btw, don't know if that makes a difference. Has the latest update.
 
Caba`drin 说:
12oz Jesus 说:
Hmmm, I crash whenever I try to go to the tavern in first town (Reyjavic).
Most likely is the stock Warband version 1.143 tavern crash.
cmpxchg8b 说:
Changing
插入代码块:
disable_moveable_flag_optimization = 0
to
插入代码块:
disable_moveable_flag_optimization = 1
in module.ini should fix the CTD

Many thanks, that worked.  Hadn't seen that before and I've been playing since the original M&B was in .7 beta.
 
@ your number 3 statement Darly... I had a similar issue. I was a Rhodok that had joined Graveths army, and had requested leave. I then proceeded to do the starting quest. I was in the bandits lair, and I too was teleported away from the fighting. All of a sudden, the looters were my allies, and my soldiers (several mercs, several recruits) were my enemies... Kinda game breaking as it wont let me finish the quest anymore.
 
Jarric 说:
While on a ship, after cancelling a landing once, unable to land again until I clicked on the fishing option and waited for a day.

Are you certain that you didnt try to land on a cliff? I have tried to reproduce this countless times, but i can land and reembark from the shore just fine.
 
Hey,
This may very well be a unique problem, but I'm having issues with - as far as I can tell - the grass and underbrush textures being vanilla rather than the ones from PL.
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Really impressed overall so far though, would be really nice if someone could help me with a solution to this.
I'm running the latest version of Warband, and have tried reinstalling the mod files too.

Cheers
 
Monnikje has created a floris specific flora, so its a mix of vanilla and PL and some own touches. I dont think you are encountering a bug.

This is still wip, so the flora will continue to change.
 
Alright.. Well, I just got the impression, because this is very different from many screenshots I've seen.
Thought the huge contrast between the dark ground texture and very bright grass was odd, but as you say it is WIP.
Thanks
 
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