Flashbangs wound

[Baguette Eater]

So there's this whole business here in Montréal 'bout police brutality and ****.

This guy:

Spoiler: Watch out possibly offending picture in there

Got flashbang'd or so he says, the nade apparently exploded 30 centimeters from his face, I personally call BS, I doubt that kind of stuff can do a wound that nasty.

What say you, anyone have experience with the thing?

 

[Cookie Eating Huskarl]

What is the current cop standard issue one? I don't think they use the m84?

 

[Kevlar]

What say you, anyone have experience with the thing?

Does swat 4 count?

 

[Legolan]

Take a note from American history, learn how to deal with it if it gets out of hand..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw

 

[Dodes]

Take a note from American history, learn how to deal with it if it gets out of hand..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw

"freedom-hating Marxist"

I smell Ron Paul supporters

 

[Mage246]

Makes me glad the federal government is so much stronger these days, so it can do something about corrupt local governments. What's that Legolan, you'd prefer to reach a different conclusion? I have no more interest in seeing a corrupt local militia than I do a corrupt local government. Smartest thing to do is to prevent both.

 

[A_Mustang]

Sure, Flashbangs can do that. They aren't lethal, but that doesn't mean they can't harm/hurt/even kill you. Kinda like white phosphorus smoke grenades. Don't look that terrible, anyways, it just a pretty bad looking cut on the head.

In any case, if it was 30 cm in front of his face and he didn't cover up, his reflexes suck/was unlucky/is stupid and thought it was harmless. Serious, those things scream 'take cover'. That's their job.

 

[Legolan]

Well at the time it had gotten out of hand and no was doing anything about it. Our federal government is so divided it may very well not do anything about these kind of things.

This was not a militia (though the american people are the largest standing militia  in the world) this was former service members. What im getting at is, when it comes down to it, you have to be ready to fight for yourself, your only a serf if you cant do that.

 

[Kevlar]

Where is the news story to go along with this?

I'm sure the police had a decent enough reason to warrant using a flashbang. In Canada at least you can lodge a complaint as a civilian to a certain agency that investigates police activity that is separate from the police themselves (can't remember the name off the top of my head) so if he thinks he was attacked without reason he can simply do that.

Personally, I don't think there is really much police brutality, only morons who egg on the police and when push goes to shove they cry about it later since the police have to deal with hostile situations all the time and don't know what you are going to do.

Edit : http://www.ocpc.ca/english/index.asp

Maybe it is province to province and not nation wide, hmmm. Man are Canadian websites ever bad :/

 

[Mage246]

The American people are not a militia. That's just stupid.

 

[A_Mustang]

Maybe not, mage, but we do have the most militias.  At least one for each state (State national guard), plus about 500-1500 unofficial militas running around.

((The 1500 number is just a wild guess, btw. 500 is not))

 

[chargers1783]

What's going on in Canada that the police are using flashbangs? I haven't been keeping up on the news lately.

Maybe not, mage, but we do have the most militias.  At least one for each state (State national guard), plus about 500-1500 unofficial militas running around.

We also have the right to own a firearm so that should count to.

 

[Baguette Eater]

I don't know the model of the grenade, some guy claimed it was made by the same company who's making the F-35 Canada's going to buy, but I have my doubts there.

The M-84 make sense, but I don't know really, I'll try and ask my uncle who was in the anti-protest squad.

Edit: I'd think the guy would have been burned rather than cut like that, with all the chemicals in that and the grenade is designed not to send shrapnel left and right.

What's going on in Canada that the police are using flashbangs? I haven't been keeping up on the news lately.

Student protest mostly, I don't remember if the guy was wounded during the student one or the anti police brutality one.

 

[BattleOfValmy]

Take a note from American history, learn how to deal with it if it gets out of hand..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw

"freedom-hating Marxist"

Don't forget this gem: "Those who dislike this video are freedom hating socialist and fascist zombies."

 

[Legolan]

Yes, because 105 million armed americans are not still classified as militant by the federal government.....Many of the founding fathers expressed their want for the people to be a armed and ready militia  ...

 

[Kevlar]

...because Britain could have invaded at any time. I don't think they expected nothing to happen.

 

[A_Mustang]

Edit: I'd think the guy would have been burned rather than cut like that, with all the chemicals in that and the grenade is designed not to send shrapnel left and right.

What's going on in Canada that the police are using flashbangs? I haven't been keeping up on the news lately.

Student protest mostly, I don't remember if the guy was wounded during the student one or the anti police brutality one.

Yeah, but the ****ing top is blown off either way, and it looks like he caught it on the edge. The chemicals are supposed to avoid fallout, asnd just make a big flash/loud noise because starting a fire would be very bad and fall under incendiary grenades rather then flash.

 

[BattleOfValmy]

Yes, because 105 million armed americans are not still classified as militant by the federal government.....Many of the founding fathers expressed their want for the people to be a armed and ready miltia...

I'm armed, and I wouldn't count myself part of any militia. Same with probably 80-90% of gun owners in America.

 

[Mage246]

No, they desired for a militia that had been duly appointed by the people should be permitted to be armed. Just picking up a gun and joining a group of people with guns doesn't make you a militia. It just makes you a lynch mob.

 

[Baguette Eater]

Hey uhm, can you talk about that elsewhere, please?