Fitness and all things fitness related (AKA: Eat your goddamn oats.)

[Seff]

AW: Cardio. You need to burn off ze fat. If you combine it with some lifting, you can build a nice body during that process - and you'll burn fat that much faster.

But the bottom line for losing weight is that you just need to be sweating (caused by exercise, not a ****ing sauna) and not eating enough to sustain your fat levels.

 

[AWdeV]

Yup. I've already started a fitnessy thing a while ago. Only problems are a) I only do it once a week and b) my eating habits have improved but aren't exactly the best yet.

Still, I did recently make my routine a bit more intensive. I just need to do it more often.

 

[Seff]

You need to break some sort of sweat every day. Interval running takes ~20 minutes and has amazing results.

 

[AWdeV]

Interval running? As in, sprinting, walking, sprinting? What am I supposed to think of here? Sounds like a good idea though. I was gonna go for a walk soon anyway so any extra is appreciated.

 

[Seff]

Yes, sprinting, slow jog, sprinting, slow jog. Either by time (1 min sprint, 3 min jog, then go for more and more sprinting as you get better) or a set distance (as fast as you can from the first lightpost to the next, then jog between the second, third and fourth, then sprint to the fifth, etc).

 

[AWdeV]

I'll give it a shot although I get self-concious all the time.

 

[Seff]

Go run where people can't look, then.

Also, **** them. If they have time to look, they should be working out themselves.

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

I'll give it a shot although I get self-concious all the time.

The way I see it, a bit of self consciousness now is a small price to pay for better health. Plus, think of it this way; if it feels awkward, you're (possibly) less likely to slip back into bad habits. That's my logic, anyway.

 

[DanAngleland]

I'll give it a shot although I get self-concious all the time.

Don't worry, lots of people run and you will not be as conspicuous as you may imagine.

If for whatever reason running doesn't suit you, you can give your leg muscles a good workout and get your heart rate up by doing squats and lunges at home.

Diet is the most important aspect though; while exercise is good for your overall fitness and speeds up your metabolism, it cannot counteract a diet which is too high in calories, and most of all you need a good diet (meaning nutritious; check processed meats for example, as many cheap sausages and burgers have very little actual meat in them) to help the body recover and improve after exercise.

 

[Vraelomon]

I'll give it a shot although I get self-concious all the time.

Self concious of what? Your legs?
Im sure if you wear a speed suit, or short shorts and a belly shirt, or just a whole lot of spandex, and crank some 80's musoc to go with it, then people would be too busy being disgusted by your entire appearance to notice just your legs. Or they might avert their gaze entirely, depending on your body size and what youre wearing.

Besides, the faster you run, the faster youll be away from society and all those bastards who devote their lives to criticising people shins and thighs.

 

[MMontage]

Yay, old wives tales. Still wating for the one about muscle turning in to fat once you stop lifting.

As for size, I put on 25 lbs of muscle doing only body weight exercises in the past. It certainly can be done.

And you can put on 20kg of muscle on a concentration camp prisoner simply by feeding him regulary.

I'm not a big guy, because I don't want to be...

There are plenty of guys who want to be, but never will. And it's not the lack of will that's holding them back.

I had a total of 400...I could squat high bar squat 170...

So your combined total for bench and dead was only 230? You must have the strangest ratio I have seen for while.

 

[kurczak]

I prefer cardio.

Running can be done anywhere, add distance, weight and speed to make it harder. Sprints and suicide drills are great too.

Edit: As long as you can hump you're own weight, maybe plus 50%, strength is fine.

My thoughts exactly. I never understood why anyone would want to be able to lift hundreds of kilos in the first place. It doesn't really do anything for your overall health or attractiveness  (the latter starts to decrease from a certain point on, imo) and you will still lose any job to a simple hydraulic machine, so what exactly is the goal here. Not being able to put your arms

 

[crodio]

I prefer cardio.

Running can be done anywhere, add distance, weight and speed to make it harder. Sprints and suicide drills are great too.

Edit: As long as you can hump you're own weight, maybe plus 50%, strength is fine.

My thoughts exactly. I never understood why anyone would want to be able to lift hundreds of kilos in the first place. It doesn't really do anything for your overall health or attractiveness  (the latter starts to decrease from a certain point on, imo) and you will still lose any job to a simple hydraulic machine, so what exactly is the goal here. Not being able to put your arms

I guess it's like a hobby, and some people would enjoy the gratifying feeling of self improvement with every personal record bested. And strength comes handy in life if you are a manual worker, i guess.
Also people who work out for strength don't really get bulky n ****, so they don't get that bag of muscles look.

 

[MMontage]

I never understood why anyone would want to be able to lift hundreds of kilos in the first place. It doesn't really do anything for your overall health

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091743501909090

research demonstrates that resistance exercise training has profound effects on the musculoskeletal system, contributes to the maintenance of functional abilities, and prevents osteoporosis, sarcopenia, lower-back pain, and other disabilities. More recent seminal research demonstrates that resistance training may positively affect risk factors such as insulin resistance, resting metabolic rate, glucose metabolism, blood pressure, body fat, and gastrointestinal transit time, which are associated with diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.

But I guess that doesn't count as improved overall health.

or attractiveness  (the latter starts to decrease from a certain point on, imo)

I for one think the latest fitness boom is the greatest thing to happen for the womanhood since the invention of buttons. I also think it's safe to say that a man who is athletic is on average seen as more attractive than the one who's not. It's without doubt true that once you pass a certain point (something most of us will never do), fewer and fewer people will see you attractive, but muscles are awfully common fetish among women and gay men. Even the pro bodybuilder types are in much better position than the skinny and unremarkable ones.

and you will still lose any job to a simple hydraulic machine, so what exactly is the goal here.

Why bother learning to paint, we have cameras these days? Why bother learning to play any instrument when music can be made electronically? Why go to work, you can't take your money with you to the grave?  Why bother doing anything?

Could it be, that strenght training, like sports in general, is rather fun activity and people enjoy doing it?

 

[Swadius 2.0]

Don't be one of those people who belittle others because they didn't learn the same things.

 

[kurczak]

The abstract talks about possible benefits of sensible resistance training defined as two 15- to 20-min training sessions a week that does not require the use of very heavy resistance.

That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the people in whose minds fitness is reduced to the ability to lift stuff as heavy as possible. I'm not saying improving your muscles strength is pointless, but I very much doubt that this guy did what he did to his body for the insulin resistance and better blood pressure.

And I bet my set of ovaries that that very body type is repulsive to most women. This is athletic and hot. This is gross and screams overcompensation.

Why bother learning to paint, we have cameras these days? Why bother learning to play any instrument when music can be made electronically? Why go to work, you can't take your money with you to the grave?  Why bother doing anything?

Just because something is temporary doesn't mean it's pointless. I understand the drive/need to create through whatever artistic means. I also understand what drives people to sports or generally physical activities. But everything moderation. I'm partial to running. But I still think that the only thing the ultramarathoners who run in Sahara for straight 168 hours or whatever achieve is a solid demonstration of their psychological issues.

 

[MMontage]

That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the people in whose minds fitness is reduced to the ability to lift stuff as heavy as possible. I'm not saying improving your muscles strength is pointless, but I very much doubt that this guy did what he did to his body for the insulin resistance and better blood pressure.

That's a bodybuilder. He's trying to build a physique that fits certain aesthetic standards, he's not training to be able to lift hundreds of kilos. I have no idea what his reasons are, but they most likely have something to do with feelings of self improvement like mentioned below. But in any case, improved musculoskeletal health is not something to be dismissed lightly.

And I bet my set of ovaries that that very body type is repulsive to most women. This is athletic and hot. This is gross and screams overcompensation.

Keyworld is for the most. There is still a rather large segment of women who find him attractive, an unathletic average male might as well be invisible.

Just because something is temporary doesn't mean it's pointless. I understand the drive/need to create through whatever artistic means. I also understand what drives people to sports or generally physical activities. But everything moderation. I'm partial to running. But I still think that the only thing the ultramarathoners who run in Sahara for straight 168 hours or whatever achieve is a solid demonstration of their psychological issues.

The thing is, moderation doesn't work in strength training. If you don't take your training and nutrition seriously, you are just wasting your time, like ~80% of gym-goers. You won't see any progress after certain point.

 

[Seff]

Some people will be content at that certain point, mind you.

 

[MMontage]

Yes, but if I'm going to spend several hundred on a gym membership yearly, it would make sense to me to get as much as possible out of it. It's not that much more laborious after all.

 

[Seff]

That's true. Some of us get it for free. :3