Fewer countries - World is better place?

[gamerwiz09]

Actually you can, the key is simply to point them at some other foreigners that everyone can hate equally. Hence why you have pan-European nationalists who think we should form one big Europe and show Johnny foreigner who's boss. Interestingly enough, you tend to find the biggest pan-European nationalist movements in the European border territories - Russia, Greece, Spain et al. So it could be as simple as creating a big European super-state (let's call it Oceania) and telling everyone it's those dirty Asians who are to blame for everything. We could even dedicate an hour every day to hating them.

True, didn't think of that. So if one can create a unified state, and at the same time create a reasonable opponent outside for people to oppose, it could work.

Hey, it worked in 1984; I don't see why it couldn't work in reality.

 

[Illyrius]

Should it be balkan or something? 

  Eastern Europeans often seem to have some trouble realizing that they are Eastern European.

That's like saying all Germanic people are Scandinavian.

 

[FrisianDude]

Not really, as Slovenia is actually in the East of Europe, and therefore, location-wise, Eastern European.

 

[LastRoman]

Not really, as Slovenia is actually in the East of Europe, and therefore, location-wise, Eastern European.

Slovenia - Eastern Europe?
Are you sure?

 

[Illyrius]

It's in Central Europe ...

 

[FrisianDude]

Hmm, it's actually a bit more to the west than I remembered. Fine. Middle/Eastern European. Still perfectly logical for Mixed to stick Slovenia in 'Eastern Europe.'

 

[Sarejo]

Well, actually I think there is a tendency to form supranational groups that comprises several contries, first for trade and economic reason, but ultimately aiming for a political unification. The European Union is the most obvious one; I'm not very informed about the dynamic of the EU is, but I think they were aiming for an unified constitution and an unified foreign policy?

UNASUR is another one. Of course, it's a lot younger, but the differences (cultural, etc) between our South American countries are not as pronounced as the ones in Europe, mainly (this is pure speculation) because a majority of the area was part of Spain (different viceroyalties) and I guess cultures didn't have that much time to diverge. Also, we have several less countries.

Finally, although on a smaller scale, we have the East African Community, which comprises Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania and Uganda. It is expected to become a federation in 2015.

 

[Archonsod]

But so far the EU is compromised of countries that are independant for the most part.

Not entirely. Laws passed in Brussels must be passed by member nations. To be honest I sometimes wonder whether it's success is due to distance - when Brussels ****s up, we blame the national government who implemented their crazy laws. When the national government attempts to point out it was the EU to blame, we dismiss it as blame shifting ...

 

[Ambalon]

Races and religions would be mixed, so there would be less hate between different people.

You wish.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

But so far the EU is compromised of countries that are independant for the most part.

Not entirely. Laws passed in Brussels must be passed by member nations. To be honest I sometimes wonder whether it's success is due to distance - when Brussels ****s up, we blame the national government who implemented their crazy laws. When the national government attempts to point out it was the EU to blame, we dismiss it as blame shifting ...

See the "for the most part".
But I agree
Then again, I also agree with the ever popular British anti-EU sentiments to a great part and I wish the German government had have to actually ask their voters if they had wanted certain things, for example EU constitution and the Euro.

 

[An4Sh]

It's in Central Europe ...

Everything east of the Czech Republik or Austria and north of the Balkans is Eastern Europe. Why can't eastern europeans ever accept the fact that they are eastern europeans?

EDIT: Not saying the Balkans isn't part of Eastern Europe.

 

[Lueii]

I suppose you have forgotten that half these countries fought long and bloody war to become INDEPENDANT of superstates.  They won't give it up for stability.

"Anyone who would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, would deserve neither and lose both"- Ben Franklin

 

[Wellenbrecher]

I suppose you have forgotten that half these countries fought long and bloody war to become INDEPENDANT of superstates.  They won't give it up for stability.

"Anyone who would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, would deserve neither and lose both"- Ben Franklin

You of all people have no idea of independance in any form and should go right back through that ****ing annoying hole you used to crawl in.

 

[Ambalon]

I suppose you have forgotten that half these countries fought long and bloody war to become INDEPENDANT of superstates.  They won't give it up for stability.

That's why God made violence, silly.

 

[EdwardWellcraft]

I disagree with the concept of a United States, so no I don't think fewer countries would make for a better place. The more regionally divided the world the better it is for the greatest number of people. The only international organizations should be ones dedicated to peacefully settling differences between members (as in the UN, except good.) Anything else should be handled at as local a level is is possible.

 

[Lueii]

I suppose you have forgotten that half these countries fought long and bloody war to become INDEPENDANT of superstates.  They won't give it up for stability.

"Anyone who would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, would deserve neither and lose both"- Ben Franklin

You of all people have no idea of independance in any form and should go right back through that ******** annoying hole you used to crawl in.

Wasn't giving out ideas.  Only telling facts.  There quote was to illustrate the concept.

Don't believe the fact that these countries fight long bloody wars to gain independence?

Example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_wars

 

[Wellenbrecher]

And thus the Taleworldian version of Godwin`s law: mention religion and the original thread`s over.
Clever Ambalon, real clever.

Wasn't giving out ideas.  Only telling facts.  There quote was to illustrate the concept.
Don't believe the fact that these countries fight long bloody wars to gain independence?
Example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_wars

As a German I in pretty good company when it comes to wars in Europe, thank you.

 

[Tibertus]

God wants smaller countries.

 

[Nodscouter]

Why the **** did you include Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Iraq and parts of Iran in Europe?

 

[An4Sh]

I suppose you have forgotten that half these countries fought long and bloody war to become INDEPENDANT of superstates.  They won't give it up for stability.

"Anyone who would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, would deserve neither and lose both"- Ben Franklin

Following the ideals of a man who raped pre-teen slaves and constanty beat and raped his army of slaves is not something you should let the general public, or anyone for that matter, know about.

As a German I in pretty good company when it comes to wars in Europe, thank you.

Pfft yeah right, what wars did Germany take part in in the last 150 years that were of any significance?