Fencers Unite!
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FrisianDude
Archduke
Battle axe. You'd have the element of surprise.
Gamemako
Sergeant
Gculk 说:
If you want to compete, easiest is saber. Weakest competition until you get to the top levels. Épée isn't that bad if you have the body shape for it; if not, you're pretty much screwed at all levels (yet another reason that épée sucks). Foil has the stiffest competition as it's the archetype, but it's at least fair.
Also, Kobrag, it is based off the cavalry sabre. Target area is based on a mounted unit and you can't cross your back foot past your front foot because that wouldn't be particularly possible on a horse. As the sabre is an edged weapon, any part of the weapon can strike for a point (rules were more complicated before electric ****ed it up, though). It's become a sport only, of course. The sabre would be the heaviest of weapons, while the sabre fencing weapon is the lightest of all the weapons. You have lunges and the like which obviously cannot be accomplished on a horse. And with the advent of electric, you can now strike with the base of the blade, the side of the blade, the back of the blade, and there's no force requirement to penetrate. Thus, it's hardly at all like its origin by now.
Locally we don't have any competition, but even with a lack of practice, I do well at competitions out of province. Just because you haven't got as much reach as a short epeeist doesn't mean anything. Blade control, point control, keeping distance, they're all more important than reach, in epee. At lower levels, taller epeeists do alot better, but that doesn't mean much when you start getting into the higher levels.Gamemako 说:
NordMann 2
Sergeant at Arms
Thats maybe because you are more likely to kill using bow and arrows standing far away from a swordsman.Ruthven 说:
Neither of the epeeist finalists at the recent FIE tournament I attended were above 6 feet.Gamemako 说:
Target area starts at the wrist, which is the same place for everyone regardless of their height.
edit: Hershey, my personal opinion is that you shouldn't pick up an epee for at least a year and shouldn't touch a sabre for three. At least.
Merentha: I disagree on the epee/sabre comment, provisionally. I believe that moving on to the other two weapons is a good way to become a well-rounded fencer. Epee for learning distance and point control, sabre for its emphasis on fast footwork, and similar components. That said, you should become proficient at foil before trying to learn the other two, and only move on if you've got the time commitment to be able to do it. (If you only fence once a week, you will only be able to do one weapon, that is.) I moved on to epee relatively early, and in my first tournament, about 8 months after I started fencing, I took gold, and practicing with the heavier blade of the epee helped my foil fencing immensely. The important thing, really, is curbing bad habits as fast as possible. For me, branching out to sabre and epee was what gave me the motivation to improve my fencing.
That said, don't start saber until you know what you're doing. A new sabeur has the potential to do serious damage. One of my coaches had his fencing career destroyed by a fencer who used excessive force, hitting my coach repeatedly on the thumb, basically crippling his hand.
That said, don't start saber until you know what you're doing. A new sabeur has the potential to do serious damage. One of my coaches had his fencing career destroyed by a fencer who used excessive force, hitting my coach repeatedly on the thumb, basically crippling his hand.
The problem is that sabre encourages (or at least allows) poor footwork at the beginning stages. Likewise, epee is more forgiving than foil because of the double-touches and larger target area. Its a lot easier to pick up poor habits in both sabre (especially sabre's footwork) and epee than it is in foil.
Fachxphyre
Regular
i was tremendously disappointed the first time i saw sabre competition. what a wussbucket degenerate sport. at least foil and epee look like they could perhaps translate to lethal force behind an actual weapon. barely nicking someone with a sabre counting for a win? ewww. that being said, i haven't really fenced much before, and i have more fun with swinging insulation-wrapped PVC "swords" around, which we call "boffing".
Huh. I found it completely different with sabre. I found that sabre forced you to have good footwork. There's less of it than say, epee, where the distance is important, but the footwork that was required had to be done properly. As for epee, the only poor habit that I picked up in epee was my excessive counterattacking, but I can certainly see where you are coming from.Merentha 说:
Gamemako
Sergeant
Fachxphyre 说:
This is mostly due to the changes to fit it into the electric weapon scheme. Currently, there is no force requirement, no leading edge requirement, and no blade position requirement. It was just tough for them to do, I guess, so they removed it all entirely. Prior to electric, there were a few key rules that made it a lot more interesting (and a whole hell of a lot harder to score): points could only be scored with the upper 1/2 (or maybe it was last 1/3rd?) of the blade and could only be scored with the leading edge of the blade, not the side or back. Flowery discussions abounded, naturally, but it at least made sense in the end. Now the weapon is just retarded.
eragoen 说:
No, it's more like "eh-pay". The accent does change the pronunciation, you know. Épée. Think of the accent on the world cliché for guidance.
