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Also I am genuinely interested in seeing any actual examples of this reviewbombing you're talking about.

Kingdom Come Deliverance got review bombed by gender freaks. It have utterly failed. Game became instant success and I have impression that all the hate attacks from gender freaks and PCrs only made it more popular.

Which is why I wonder why TW went this gender PC way to start with. Players clearly reward contra-PCernes, even against all the corporate propaganda in the media. And TW is independent developer without obvious corporate connections.

Makes no sense.
 
Obviously the publishers care, or they wouldn't go to such length to fulfill quotas of minorities and remove any form of whatever may offend the SJW crusaders.

Speaking of crusaders, remember the 'big' controversy around CK3 using/removing "Deus Vult?" No? Neither did anyone else when the release day came.
 
Was that character even trans? I thought it was just a muscular woman

There is another character who appears later in the game where it's implied that she is transgender.

Kingdom Come Deliverance got review bombed by gender freaks. It have utterly failed. Game became instant success and I have impression that all the hate attacks from gender freaks and PCrs only made it more popular.

Here are all the negative metacritic and steam reviews. I challenge you to find a single one that refers to the stupid twitter controversy.

I highly doubt that the developer acting like this:

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over asinine twitter drama is what got people to buy the game. It's been proven time and time again that people who talk about "spite purchases" are just virtue signalling, and that intentionally controversial games never sell well.
 
I wish there was the possibility of adding things like prima nocta to the game to flesh out Calradia. I imagine Lord Haringoth of Swadia in Warband would be down for some 'Lord's right to the first night'.
 
From the mans mouth himself, also this whole SJW conspiracy thing is hilarious. As if TW gives a ****. Seems like they just wanted it to be this way, not influenced by outside forces.

 
over asinine twitter drama is what got people to buy the game. It's been proven time and time again that people who talk about "spite purchases" are just virtue signalling, and that intentionally controversial games never sell well.

Except KCD wasn't intentionally controversial. It wasn't even controversial. You have missed my point.

From the mans mouth himself, also this whole SJW conspiracy thing is hilarious. As if TW gives a ****. Seems like they just wanted it to be this way, not influenced by outside forces.

I might believe you if they did not made 2 games that were not gender PC previously. Since they did, question why did they go PC way in the third installment in the series (not counting offshots) is legit.
 
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the irony is that the trans character in TLOU 2 was better written than almost any of the other characters.
That is true, but TLOU 2 is a one huge SJW agenda to me - women are always brave and in the vanguard, fighting the villains (even the pregnant ones, lol) and hunting animals for food, while male characters are always somewhere on the backside.

By the way, a few months ago some lad found a game files of the sexist behaviour for some lords in Bannerlord. There was a mod called something like "Cutting room floor - Sexism" or something like this. If these were truly taken from the game's files, does this mean that we can have this feature back in the future?
 
I was referring to this:

I know, but my point wasn't that it became popular because it was controversial. It was not. My point is that in my opinion players increasingly dislike when gender and other PC agendas are pushed down their throats.

Or in other words, sht throwing by corporate PC propaganda, regardless of the form, does not damage sales of the games. Certainly not well established games like MB is. So what's the point of pushing gender PC (or any other PC) in to a game series that did not have it?
 
have you considered that sometimes people just like to write more than one kind of thing?

the hysteria about companies "forcing diversity" is especially amusing in light of the way that those companies often actually try to do the opposite, eg ubisoft leadership forbidding having the main player character be a woman in assassin's creed for years.
 
have you considered that sometimes people just like to write more than one kind of thing?

the hysteria about companies "forcing diversity" is especially amusing in light of the way that those companies often actually try to do the opposite, eg ubisoft leadership forbidding having the main player character be a woman in assassin's creed for years.

You mean that there is no "forcing diversity" agenda in corporate media (and I mean all media including games)?

No I did not. When there is consistent increase of something over considerable time then it's not a random event. When temperature in your house starts falling and you go from +20 degrees to -10 in 24 hours then you go check your heating system and not sit down waiting for a change.
 
By the way, a few months ago some lad found a game files of the sexist behaviour for some lords in Bannerlord. There was a mod called something like "Cutting room floor - Sexism" or something like this. If these were truly taken from the game's files, does this mean that we can have this feature back in the future?

If you uncomment it, it should still work.
 
That is true, but TLOU 2 is a one huge SJW agenda to me - women are always brave and in the vanguard, fighting the villains (even the pregnant ones, lol) and hunting animals for food, while male characters are always somewhere on the backside.

If this is the one thing about that game that strikes you as wildly unrealistic and forced then you have a problem. Incidentally, have you played the game which your avatar comes from?

You mean that there is no "forcing diversity" agenda in corporate media (and I mean all media including games)?

No I did not. When there is consistent increase of something over considerable time then it's not a random event. When temperature in your house starts falling and you go from +20 degrees to -10 in 24 hours then you go check your heating system and not sit down waiting for a change.

There has been an increase in non white, non male, non straight characters in video games recently, but that's because marketers have finally got into their heads that their playerbase isn't just white american teenage boys. Most mainstream games from the mid to late 2000s are frankly embarrassing, as if they were written by 35 year old rapey manchildren (spoiler alert: they were, and many still are, although a lot of them have been fired recently because they're rapey manchildren).

What's happening now is similar (although a lot less insane) to the child abuse hysteria of the 1980s and 90s. Old institutions which were hotbeds of abuse were suddenly uncovered, and all the other institutions rushed to uncover abuse on their own before the government or angry mobs tore them to shreds. Some people complained at the time that it went to far (spoiler: it kind of did), but that didn't mean that the hysteria was wrong, or that the attitudes it held were invalid.

Video games between around 2000-2010 or so were seen by the general public as something only perverted, misogynistic white boys indulged in, because to some extent it was kind of true, they generally marketed themselves aggressively as "boys toys". You didn't go around telling people that you played video games as a 40 year old, or a woman, especially on the internet where people would unironically tell you to get back in the kitchen.
Now that video games are overtaking film and TV, there is a mad rush by publishers and developers to distance themselves from that image. Making a game which is just a regurgitation of the worst of 1980s hollywood is no longer acceptable.

If anything is forced, it was the excessively uninclusive landscape that was mainstream video games in the 2000s. If you saw that as the norm, I can understand why you think games are all SJW propaganda now, but it's still a petty boomer mindset that isn't going to last.
 
Incidentally, have you played the game which your avatar comes from?
I did and this game had a huge emotional impact on me (this music is just marvelous), though the open world wasn't really necessary in my opinion.

And nah, that's not the only thing I didn't like TLoU 2. But we're going into a huge offtop, so I think we should stop discussing other games here, since there are other places for it.
 
Video games between around 2000-2010 or so were seen by the general public as something only perverted, misogynistic white boys indulged in, because to some extent it was kind of true, they generally marketed themselves aggressively as "boys toys". You didn't go around telling people that you played video games as a 40 year old, or a woman, especially on the internet where people would unironically tell you to get back in the kitchen.
Now that video games are overtaking film and TV, there is a mad rush by publishers and developers to distance themselves from that image. Making a game which is just a regurgitation of the worst of 1980s hollywood is no longer acceptable.

If anything is forced, it was the excessively uninclusive landscape that was mainstream video games in the 2000s. If you saw that as the norm, I can understand why you think games are all SJW propaganda now, but it's still a petty boomer mindset that isn't going to last.
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Even when you choose your husband, instead of joining his clan, the husband joins yours (which is ULTRA stupid).
Yeah... THIS is jarring.
 
Sorry guys but literally most of you use strawman to accuse people of instanly getting offended. There is a gigantic difference in making a medieval game realistic in the sense of how you're treated if you're a woman on that time and putting an armor that just covers the nipple in an overly sexualized character, Warband literally had no backlash and neither Bannerlord would get backlash, so it's a doable thing, it has nothing to do with SJW but more with the devs not putting previously working mechanics just because, just like a lot of previous mechanics of Warband are not present here (courtship, camping, feasts, conspiracies)
 
Yeah... THIS is jarring.
I mean its pretty clear that they want you to keep your own clan no matter what, otherwise it's extremely limiting to get married. Realism is great but gameplay first. I'm interested to see what happens with AI marriage, I have a feeling women will join men's clans
 
I mean its pretty clear that they want you to keep your own clan no matter what, otherwise it's extremely limiting to get married. Realism is great but gameplay first. I'm interested to see what happens with AI marriage, I have a feeling women will join men's clans
Perhaps. I wouldn't mind if the system aloud for both patrilineal and matrilineal marriages for NPCs as well. And it did happen historically in some cases. Especially if the husband was from a lower ranking family, the marriage was to move up and get an in with the new clan... In a sense, of course. It wasn't all so rigid.
 
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