Archonsod said:
Draygo said:
Dueling often speeds up the end of a battle round where the enemy team doesnt know where the last player is. There are 2 options for the other team
You missed "ignore the silly bugger and grab the MotF flag".
So you would rather wait a minute for the flag to spawn instead of killing him in under 30 seconds?
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Urist, who says the last person standing did nothing for his team? Sometimes i've gone around and flanked a bunch of archers, killed 3-4 of them only to find out my teams nearly all dead. Was I wrong to kill those 3-4 archers that were shooting my teammates? Its not wrong for the last man standing to ask for a duel, its also not wrong for the other team not to accept. In addition its not wrong for the last man standing to play hide and seek and 'waste' everyones time. Or the last cav player to spend a minute and a half attempting to beat 6 enemy infantry with a thrust from horseback.
I find it rare on battle servers for the last man standing to not have any kills whatsoever. Usually the last man standing is either an archer/xbow or is a player within the top 20% of his team for kills. Unless someone is intentionally hiding to grief.
Also what do you do when your team goes to fight the last man, and two of your teammates die to tk's and he kills 2 more. Do you continue to press him knowing full well that your teammates arnt careful and will likely kill you? Or do you back off let the careless members of your team go first, then after they die duel the last man?
Such blanket statements that dueling should be a kickable offense is just plain wrong. If you have a problem waiting for the next round to start go play TDM/DM/Seige - Battle is not for you.
I personally dont participate in end round gangbangs when I dont know the prowess of my allies. If its more likely ill end up dead from an ally than an enemy than I simply wait till its more likely ill kill the enemy or die by the enemy instead of die by an ally. Once its 3 on 1 or worse its really no different than 4 on 1, 5 on 1 etc. If you go 3 on 1 and all die, its likely ill die attempting to 4 on 1 and I usually calculate i have a better chance against him 1 on 1.
Ive seen 8 on 1's go the way of the last man, where if dueling was used that last man would not have beaten all 8 enemies.
Often dueling doesnt waste time anyway, usually the combatents put their shields aside making the fight much shorter. For example if you had a 2v1 situation where all participants have shields, the last man standing can definatly fight for 20 seconds or more, where in a duel its likely over in 15 seconds or less.