Equip regular troops like companions tweak

rasz · Dec 14, 2008

Lord Kinlar said:
rasz said:

How can I disable randomization? I love Sword Sisters, but they keep spawning with no helmet and Xbow every other day Would love to assign them some proper lance and permanent helmet.

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Then use the troop editor and edit their properties.

doh me

is it save safe? dont want to start new game, im on my 330 day now

great if it is, im gonna make all women ranged, they had Xbows anyway but died too easily while being Infantry

Lord Kinlar · Dec 14, 2008

rasz said:
doh me is it save safe?

Sadly no, you can't use your saved game in this case, but there may be a workaround.

1. First, create a new troop type.

What you should do is basically to copy all Sword Sister lines in troops.txt and paste them at the bottom of the file and then using the troop editor name the new troop as, say "Elite Sword Sister".

2. Again, using the troop editor, edit their properperties & give them lances etc. and in "guarantee" section make sure "helmet" is checked.

3. Also make sure that regular Sword Sisters upgrade to "Elite Sword Sisters".

Doing these will let you upgrade regular sword sisters to Elite Sword Sisters that have all the equipment you wanted.

"Elite Sword Sisters" may appear naked at first in party window, right after you upgraded them,

, but that gets fixed after you talk to them once.

This method is something you can use with your saved games.

rasz · Dec 14, 2008

Lord Kinlar said:
rasz said:

doh me is it save safe?

Click to expand...

Sadly no, you can't use your saved game in this case, but there may be a workaround.

1. First, create a new troop type.

What you should do is basically to copy all Sword Sister lines in troops.txt and paste them at the bottom of the file and then using the troop editor name the new troop as, say "Elite Sword Sister".

2. Again, using the troop editor, edit their properperties & give them lances etc. and in "guarantee" section make sure "helmet" is checked.

3. Also make sure that regular Sword Sisters upgrade to "Elite Sword Sisters".

Doing these will let you upgrade regular sword sisters to Elite Sword Sisters that have all the equipment you wanted.

"Elite Sword Sisters" may appear naked at first in party window, right after you upgraded them, , but that gets fixed after you talk to them once.

This method is something you can use with your saved games.

funny, because I started doind exactly what you wrote before reading your post

I figured modding Sword Sister would be like cheating so Ill create another level for her called Sword Sistar

hmm Ih I can mod current sword sister and add upgrade patch then in theory I should be able to mod camp defenders too, will check it now

Edit: ah so thats how it works, it polls data from the txt files during unit creation and then saves them in save files, got it, created whole new family of woman fighters

third level is basically a forrest bandit meets Robin Hood

Peasant Women wont be useless now.

Lord Kinlar · Dec 14, 2008

rasz said:
funny, because I started doind exactly what you wrote before reading your post

So telepathy does exist!

rasz · Dec 15, 2008

Was just thinking. Last 3 battles in a row two of my Swadian Knights spawned with swords and third one with some Lance, that would suggest game keeps track of every single soldiers equipment. Would be cool to gain access to individual units.

OBrian · Dec 15, 2008

Well, I can't try this now since my town got pwnt by an ice storm and im stuck at my grandma's with her ****ty comp but back to the point.

You are a ****in genius! *excuse flame plz, this is just to godly*

Finally my army of 300 huscarls on my main will be mounted l33tpwnage masta rasta's!

tommylaw · Dec 21, 2008

is this on the tweaks thread? get magelord to update the list as well, this is rather useful

JohnnyThunder · Jan 12, 2009

I just knocked up a quick mod, more a proof of theory than anything. My objective was to create an army where all my elite troops were wearing my uniform, ie had tabards with my banner on it.

So I made a second set of units for each elite unit type that I could choose as an upgrade option. So for the Nords I had Huscarls, and "Huscarl Regulars" that were the same except that they wore the Heraldric Mail.

Then I remembered this post and played around with the conversations until I figured out how to make the same change as is described in this post.

So in the end all my regular troops had pre-defined armor and no weapons, so when you upgrade to them you have to buy them some gear before they are useful. All I want to do now is make their weekly cost a bit higher than normal to offset the "cheat" of being able to outfitt all your troops with nasty gear.

I can't say how much I enjoy having all the lads charging accross the battle field behind me in full matching kit

And my troop of Swadian knights with Poleaxes lay a carpet of Rhodocks in their path every time we go raiding

Thats just a long way of saying, thanks for the idea

stevohall · Apr 12, 2010

I have found a way to make this work with Warband,

First check to see if this text matches your text in converstaions.txt EXACTLY (i will not be held responsible if you mess up)

dlga_member_chat:regular_member_talk 4095 13 0 Your_orders_{sir/madam}? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:view_regular_char_requested 69631 1293 0 Tell_me_about_yourself 1294 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_view_regular_char_requested:do_regular_member_view_char 4095 1294 0 Aye_{sir/madam}._Let_me_tell_you_all_there_is_to_know_about_me. 1295 1 2046 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_do_regular_member_view_char:regular_member_talk 4095 1295 0 Anything_else? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:close_window 69631 1293 0 Nothing._Keep_moving. 6 0 NO_VOICEOVER

If it matches copy and paste green over the top of the above text, if not goto step 2

dlga_member_chat:regular_member_talk 4095 13 0 Your_orders_{sir/madam}? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:regular_member_trade 69631 1293 0 Let_me_see_your_equipment. 2000 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_trade:regular_member_talk 4095 2000 0 Very_well,_it's_all_here... 1295 1 2051 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:view_regular_char_requested 69631 1293 0 Tell_me_about_yourself 1294 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_view_regular_char_requested:do_regular_member_view_char 4095 1294 0 Aye_{sir/madam}._Let_me_tell_you_all_there_is_to_know_about_me. 1295 1 2046 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_do_regular_member_view_char:regular_member_talk 4095 1295 0 Anything_else? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:close_window 69631 1293 0 Nothing._Keep_moving. 6 0 NO_VOICEOVER

stevohall · Apr 12, 2010

Step 2

only do this if the text DOES NOT MATCH (this will mainly be applicable after a patch or in mods when the module comes out)

dlga_member_chat:regular_member_talk 4095 13 0 Your_orders_{sir/madam}? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:view_regular_char_requested 69631 1293 0 Tell_me_about_yourself 1294 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_view_regular_char_requested:do_regular_member_view_char 4095 1294 0 Aye_{sir/madam}._Let_me_tell_you_all_there_is_to_know_about_me. 1295 1 2046 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_do_regular_member_view_char:regular_member_talk 4095 1295 0 Anything_else? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:close_window 69631 1293 0 Nothing._Keep_moving. 6 0 NO_VOICEOVER

write down the red numbers on YOUR conversations.txt, then copy and paste the lines below between line 1 and 2 of the above txt

dlga_regular_member_talk:regular_member_trade 69631 1293 0 Let_me_see_your_equipment. 2000 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_trade:regular_member_talk 4095 2000 0 Very_well,_it's_all_here... 1295 1 2051 0 NO_VOICEOVER

now change the orange text to what you wrote down earlier

(i have no idea if the NO_VOICEOVER is needed but i included it just incase)

EDIT: sorry forgot to thank original poster for this as without him i wouldnt have had a clue

Austupaio · Apr 12, 2010

This works perfect, Stevo, big thanks.

stevohall · Apr 12, 2010

np, glad its help someone (other than myself :lol:

)

if you find any probs later in the game please let me know as i havent had a chance to fully test it, although there sholdn't be

Lord Kinlar · Jul 6, 2010

Hi, posted this in another thread, if anyone else is interested here's a similar tweak which I use to equip my vassals and upgrade their skills in Warband (works with 1.113).

You need to replace these lines in conversation.txt

dlga_lord_talk:lord_talk_preoffer 69631 265 3 31 2 1 0 2147483680 2 144115188075856110 2 30 2 144115188075855992 0 I_have_an_offer_for_you. 473 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_lord_talk:lord_give_troops 69631 265 2 31 2 144115188075855989 432345564227567630 2147484208 3 144115188075855987 8 0 I_want_to_give_some_troops_to_you. 474 0 NO_VOICEOVER

with these...

dlga_lord_talk:lord_talk_preoffer 69631 265 3 31 2 1 0 2147483680 2 144115188075856110 2 30 2 144115188075855992 0 I_have_an_offer_for_you. 473 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_lord_talk:lord_trade 69631 265 2 31 2 144115188075855989 432345564227567630 2147484208 3 144115188075855987 8 0 Let_me_see_your_equipment. 8008 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_lord_trade:do_lord_trade 4095 8008 0 Very_well,_it's_all_here... 8009 1 2051 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_do_lord_trade:lord_talk 4095 8009 0 Anything_else? 265 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_lord_talk:view_lord_char_requested 69631 265 2 31 2 144115188075855989 432345564227567630 2147484208 3 144115188075855987 8 0 What_can_you_tell_me_about_your_skills? 9800 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_view_lord_char_requested:do_lord_view_char 4095 9800 0 All_right,_let_me_tell_you... 9801 1 2046 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_do_lord_view_char:lord_talk 4095 9801 0 Anything_else? 265 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_lord_talk:lord_give_troops 69631 265 2 31 2 144115188075855989 432345564227567630 2147484208 3 144115188075855987 8 0 I_want_to_give_some_troops_to_you. 474 0 NO_VOICEOVER

The numbers in red are all arbitrary and they are large enough (hopefully) and won't conflict with anything else.

as a code for easy copy/paste...

Code:

dlga_lord_talk:lord_talk_preoffer 69631 265  3 31 2 1 0 2147483680 2 144115188075856110 2 30 2 144115188075855992 0 I_have_an_offer_for_you.  473  0 NO_VOICEOVER 
dlga_lord_talk:lord_trade 69631 265  2 31 2 144115188075855989 432345564227567630 2147484208 3 144115188075855987 8 0 Let_me_see_your_equipment.  8008  0 NO_VOICEOVER 
dlga_lord_trade:do_lord_trade 4095 8008  0 Very_well,_it's_all_here...  8009  1 2051 0 NO_VOICEOVER 
dlga_do_lord_trade:lord_talk 4095 8009  0 Anything_else?  265  0 NO_VOICEOVER 
dlga_lord_talk:view_lord_char_requested 69631 265  2 31 2 144115188075855989 432345564227567630 2147484208 3 144115188075855987 8 0 What_can_you_tell_me_about_your_skills?  9800  0 NO_VOICEOVER 
dlga_view_lord_char_requested:do_lord_view_char 4095 9800  0 All_right,_let_me_tell_you...  9801  1 2046 0 NO_VOICEOVER 
dlga_do_lord_view_char:lord_talk 4095 9801  0 Anything_else?  265  0 NO_VOICEOVER 
dlga_lord_talk:lord_give_troops 69631 265  2 31 2 144115188075855989 432345564227567630 2147484208 3 144115188075855987 8 0 I_want_to_give_some_troops_to_you.  474  0 NO_VOICEOVER

These lines above should replace the two original lines in conversation.txt.

The code for the MS:

Code:

	[
		anyone|plyr,
		"lord_talk", 
		[
			(eq, "$g_talk_troop_faction", "fac_player_supporters_faction"),
			#(troop_slot_eq, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_is_prisoner, 0),
			(neg|troop_slot_ge, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_prisoner_of_party, 0),
		],
		"Let me see your equipment.", 
		"lord_trade",[]
	],
		
	[
		anyone,
		"lord_trade", 
		[], 
		"Very well, it's all here...", 
		"do_lord_trade",
		[
			#(change_screen_trade)
			(change_screen_equip_other),
		]
	],

	[
		anyone,
		"do_lord_trade", 
		[], 
		"Anything else?", 
		"lord_talk",
		[]
	],

	[
		anyone|plyr,
		"lord_talk", 
		[
			(eq, "$g_talk_troop_faction", "fac_player_supporters_faction"),
			#(troop_slot_eq, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_is_prisoner, 0),
			(neg|troop_slot_ge, "$g_talk_troop", slot_troop_prisoner_of_party, 0),
		], 
		"What can you tell me about your skills?", 
		"view_lord_char_requested",
		[]
	],
	
	[
		anyone,	
		"view_lord_char_requested", 
		[], 
		"All right, let me tell you...", 
		"do_lord_view_char",
		[
			(change_screen_view_character)
		]
	],

	[
		anyone,
		"do_lord_view_char", 
		[], 
		"Anything else?", 
		"lord_talk",
		[]
	],

stevohall · Jul 7, 2010

cheers for this

will have to check it out when im next on warband, havent played for a while so will be one of the 1st things i try when i go to mod (havent kept upto date with mods since not long after i posted, i thought id let the game mature and mod tools to be refined

)

mobotium · Jul 8, 2010

stevohall said:
I have found a way to make this work with Warband,

First check to see if this text matches your text in converstaions.txt EXACTLY (i will not be held responsible if you mess up)

dlga_member_chat:regular_member_talk 4095 13 0 Your_orders_{sir/madam}? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:view_regular_char_requested 69631 1293 0 Tell_me_about_yourself 1294 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_view_regular_char_requested:do_regular_member_view_char 4095 1294 0 Aye_{sir/madam}._Let_me_tell_you_all_there_is_to_know_about_me. 1295 1 2046 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_do_regular_member_view_char:regular_member_talk 4095 1295 0 Anything_else? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:close_window 69631 1293 0 Nothing._Keep_moving. 6 0 NO_VOICEOVER

If it matches copy and paste green over the top of the above text, if not goto step 2

dlga_member_chat:regular_member_talk 4095 13 0 Your_orders_{sir/madam}? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:regular_member_trade 69631 1293 0 Let_me_see_your_equipment. 2000 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_trade:regular_member_talk 4095 2000 0 Very_well,_it's_all_here... 1295 1 2051 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:view_regular_char_requested 69631 1293 0 Tell_me_about_yourself 1294 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_view_regular_char_requested:do_regular_member_view_char 4095 1294 0 Aye_{sir/madam}._Let_me_tell_you_all_there_is_to_know_about_me. 1295 1 2046 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_do_regular_member_view_char:regular_member_talk 4095 1295 0 Anything_else? 1293 0 NO_VOICEOVER
dlga_regular_member_talk:close_window 69631 1293 0 Nothing._Keep_moving. 6 0 NO_VOICEOVER

OMG I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the other guy too...

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stevohall · Jun 24, 2011

Thanks for the heads up, i was aware of equipment changes when upgrading troops (also not all troops have the equipment that was given) this is because of thier equipment pool, i havent delved much deeper on the issue for a quite a while as been playing other games (god help me for being truthful :p lol) so any1 who has worked out how to change the equipment pool of troops is welcome to pitch in with all due credit.

Delora Filth · Jun 25, 2011

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Lord Kinlar · Jul 3, 2011

stevohall said:
so any1 who has worked out how to change the equipment pool of troops is welcome to pitch in with all due credit.

As stated, or at least hinted in one of the previous pages, you may strip all the equipment in a troop's item pool and give him only the equipment you want. However, if you want to create a new item pool from scratch by using this tweak, you won't be able to do that for certain items and for certain troops. In that case, it is best to use the module system or something like Troop Editor etc.

Winterz · Jul 3, 2011

What about the random equipment?
For example: Without mods, the use of helmets or things like those are randomly chosen even (between a list) so they don't look all the same, even if they are the same type of troops.
What about with this modification? They will all look the same ? Or is there any random thing too?

Equip regular troops like companions *tweak*

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