Endless war and AI laying siege to everything and everyone

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Floh

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After dabbling around with a test char for a while I'm now on day 382 with my second char. For at least 300!!! (notice the multiple exclamation marks) of those days I, as a loyal vassal of Tsar Whatshisname of Moscow, have been at war with the Swedes. And it wont stop. Never. Ever. Neverevernevernever. Never. It's driving me mad.
The war went back and forth for quite some time but eventually I said screw you, grabbed my Musket and shot everyone wearing blue in sight. Then I shot the green ones as well, they're dangerously close to blue so I thought better be safe. With a little help, from a bunch of mustached men in dresses. But they're armed so don't tell them I said that. By now I reduced Sweden to it's "borrowed" Prusian lands in the south but to no avail.
I haven't fought anything else but Swedes in this game. Once in a battle I spotted a winged hussar in the midst of the swedish hordes but I shot him. He said some really nasty things about the Tsar. Something about a donkey and a kiddy pool full of pudding. In Warband at least the enemy sometimes changed and in between were small periods of something called peace, but I didn't quite grasp it's purpose. I think it's the time you use to pull the enemies teeth out of your boots. Or to buy new boots if you're lucky and it's a lot of gold teeth.
Meanwhile I have no idea where the heck the Tsar is. Or anyone else who is supposed to fight by my side for that matter. For 150 days there is a war with the Crim people but they're obviously aware of the importance of Swede stomping so they don't bother me when I'm off burning people and stealing females. I guess the Tsar and all of his vassals must be down there somewhere, presumably dancing and playing cards with the Khan and generally frollicking. Because sure as hell no one is capturing **** down there. Not one city changed hands. They must be having one hell of a time.
Which brings me to my final lament: The Swedish kings deteriorating mental health. The Swedish king in the wild is generally not seen without a host of lickspittles clinging to his ass, hoping to catch a piece of antilope when the wild King is off lazing in the shade. He and his host seem to have adopted a certain routine. They'll start by sieging Dzvinsk castle for a few days, then ride off to Narva without even attacking to do a little hard siegework there. Thenn they'll pay a visit in Riga, eventually at Dorpat and Dzvinsk again because it's in the area I guess. Reval and Riga are also visited regularly.
He must be mighty fond of what he build once. I admit the masonry on the outside of those walls is quite fine and the detail on the crennelations superb, so well done there, but seriously give me a break. It's creeping me out. Everynight he's out there...just staring at the walls. Staring with those empty evil eyes that are natural to all Swedes. I have to follow him around all day for fear that he might finally decide to take a look at the other side of the wall.
And I swear his stupidity is contagious. Sometimes I see one of his bootlickers standing around alone, outside of a city, laying siege to it with a couple of dozen men and some ultra secret weapon obviously because he could not even dream of actually taking it. A moonlaser perhaps. Or maybe a moonmusket to stay historically accurate.

Long text, short question: Am I the only one experiencing this an being annoyed by it? Is this even intended? Am I just unlucky? Is the long time standing in gunpowder fumes finally taking it's toll on my mind? Will building a shrine to the dark gods out of the souls of flayed infants make this madness stop? Seriously, that one priest guy, the one that reeks of cheap vodka and cabbage, made some amazing plans, you'll love it when you see it, I promise.

[EDIT] Oh god I went a bit overboard with that one, didn't I. Scuse me for the wall of text.
 
Its the same problem with Poland. Its really annoying...

That said, i have seen peace!!!! Cossacks (or Tatars, i dont remember well) and Muscovites declared peace between them. Its just that a week after they were sieging between them again, but at least I know that peace its possible.

So I think that its just highly unlikely.
 
That was one of the funniest things I have ever read on this forum  :mrgreen:

Floh 说:
I guess the Tsar and all of his vassals must be down there somewhere, presumably dancing and playing cards with the Khan and generally frollicking. Because sure as hell no one is capturing **** down there.

Thats how I feel about my co-vassals in every M&B game xD
 
i was going to post something like this, what i dont understand is im with the swedes and they siege everything, but like 1 guy is sieging a castle double his army ammount, it must be a bug cause it just happens all over the map. in warband lords never sieged anything without a gaurentee of numbers, in this game they stand there siege, walk away and re-siege its dumb.
 
Ozean 说:
i was going to post something like this, what i dont understand is im with the swedes and they siege everything, but like 1 guy is sieging a castle double his army ammount, it must be a bug cause it just happens all over the map. in warband lords never sieged anything without a gaurentee of numbers, in this game they stand there siege, walk away and re-siege its dumb.

Actually, now I think of it that might be a good tactic. If you get a message telling you 5 castles/forts are under siege, you don't know which one to rush to and defend.
 
I feel for you brother.

We, the Cossacs has been in war with Poland and Tatars since the beginning. After about 30 days the peace was declared between us and Poland. But the war with Tatars keeps raging on without end in sight. Lord trying to siege towns with pitiful amount of troops. But the really odd thing is that our leader cant make up his mind and keeps changing the Marshall.
And by that I dont mean once in a month or when the incompetent sod gets captured. No sir.  I mean FOUR FREAKING TIMES A DAY. No matter what the marshall is doing - in a campaign, no problem, lets change it, in a siege - change it. In a siege battle - CHANGE. WE CAN.
I dont know if this is working as intended, or on those days the Hetman wakes up with bad hangover, but seems a little odd.

And while this is going on, the Tatar Khan is taking town after town with 1900+ army. Every single Tatar Bey joined his campaign, no one leaves, no one falters. Thats some impressive teamwork folks. Hats down to the Tatars
 
I think this is because the AI is the old M&B AI, which did this very same annoying stuff. 

on the bright side, this stuff is all fixable.
 
you can make peace quite easy through a quest given by the Major of a town.
i play as a vassal of sweden and destroyed the mosscows(?) while poland declared war against sweden.
after i finished the last russian guy, i went back to my town and the major gave me the "make peace" quest we already know from M&B Vanilla and M&B Warband.
 
Yes I have noticed very brave AIs trying to siege also.

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,168308.msg4085432.html#msg4085432

As for ending war, Losthero is right. Now that castles also have mayors (guild masters) you have a decent chance of finding at least someone who will give you the "end war" quest.
 
Well, certainly going to try to get that quest, thanks, I desperately need a new enemy. I swear those pesky Poles have gone unmolested for too long.
However the wild sieging like it's going out of style is stil annoying. Will need to beat them with my hammer. A lot.
 
Not sure what game you're playing, but I conquered half of the Cossack territory in just a few days with a bunch of Muscovite lords. Of course, it helps when you're the Tsar and can tell people to follow you or you'll have them drowned in boiling oil..

Basically, being the Tsar means you can tell nobles to attack, and you get to control your kingdom's diplomacy. I suggest becoming one.
 
slon02 说:
tell people to follow you or you'll have them drowned in boiling oil..

Pffft... How pathetic... While playing as the Tsar I for one try to follow in the footsteps of one of the greatest trolls to ever live... Ivan the Terrible. Don't threaten your lords with boiling liquids. Rather, threaten to publicly rip their beards out by hand. Now if that doesn't lubricate the wheels of change then I don't know what will.

Edit:

They'll start by sieging Dzvinsk castle for a few days, then ride off to Narva without even attacking to do a little hard siegework there. Thenn they'll pay a visit in Riga, eventually at Dorpat and Dzvinsk again because it's in the area I guess. Reval and Riga are also visited regularly.

Same thing happens with me. :smile: They will typically siege a castle for days on end and never actually attack it. Then when they feel they have sufficiently bored the enemy to death they will move onto the next castle.
 
lamerstein 说:
I feel for you brother.

We, the Cossacs has been in war with Poland and Tatars since the beginning. After about 30 days the peace was declared between us and Poland. But the war with Tatars keeps raging on without end in sight. Lord trying to siege towns with pitiful amount of troops. But the really odd thing is that our leader cant make up his mind and keeps changing the Marshall.
And by that I dont mean once in a month or when the incompetent sod gets captured. No sir.  I mean FOUR FREAKING TIMES A DAY. No matter what the marshall is doing - in a campaign, no problem, lets change it, in a siege - change it. In a siege battle - CHANGE. WE CAN.
I dont know if this is working as intended, or on those days the Hetman wakes up with bad hangover, but seems a little odd.

And while this is going on, the Tatar Khan is taking town after town with 1900+ army. Every single Tatar Bey joined his campaign, no one leaves, no one falters. Thats some impressive teamwork folks. Hats down to the Tatars

Haha nice.

But really, I think it's a question of a faction beginning to become stretched too thin with no new lords joining in. At least that is what is seemingly starting to happen with my Crimean Khanate playthrough. I've captured 1 town and 2 fortresses in quick succession while the enemy Muscovite marshall was busy duking it out on the far side of the map with the Swedish cities. However, now I regret my decision, as the eastern half of the map is extensive, and is less defensible in terms of getting to a trouble spot in relatively fast manner.

Oppositely, I see like 3 Lords (Beys) with 100+ armies hanging out near Azaq-Kale, almost in the darn Caucasian mountains. What they're doing there, I have no idea (maybe stuck, my game screen glitches and jags there often), but it sure beats battling on the western front, I guess lol
 
I was playing Poland and at war with swedes but Poland is not fighting them so they just attack me. AI is super stupid in this case too, as the marshal I usually travel with several lords but the Sweden lord will ignore them and charge in with about 200 men only got slaughtered by my ally force of over 500  :mrgreen: btw they occasionly lay siege to my cities with 1400-1600 men but in each city I have about 1000 fully equiped infantry merc, so I don't even care they stand no chance
 
Veraxus5 说:
slon02 说:
tell people to follow you or you'll have them drowned in boiling oil..

Pffft... How pathetic... While playing as the Tsar I for one try to follow in the footsteps of one of the greatest trolls to ever live... Ivan the Terrible. Don't threaten your lords with boiling liquids. Rather, threaten to publicly rip their beards out by hand. Now if that doesn't lubricate the wheels of change then I don't know what will.

Edit:

They'll start by sieging Dzvinsk castle for a few days, then ride off to Narva without even attacking to do a little hard siegework there. Thenn they'll pay a visit in Riga, eventually at Dorpat and Dzvinsk again because it's in the area I guess. Reval and Riga are also visited regularly.

Same thing happens with me. :smile: They will typically siege a castle for days on end and never actually attack it. Then when they feel they have sufficiently bored the enemy to death they will move onto the next castle.

put urself in the city and if they seriously outnumber u like 500 more than u then they will attack
 
catking2003 说:
Veraxus5 说:
slon02 说:
tell people to follow you or you'll have them drowned in boiling oil..

Pffft... How pathetic... While playing as the Tsar I for one try to follow in the footsteps of one of the greatest trolls to ever live... Ivan the Terrible. Don't threaten your lords with boiling liquids. Rather, threaten to publicly rip their beards out by hand. Now if that doesn't lubricate the wheels of change then I don't know what will.

Edit:

They'll start by sieging Dzvinsk castle for a few days, then ride off to Narva without even attacking to do a little hard siegework there. Thenn they'll pay a visit in Riga, eventually at Dorpat and Dzvinsk again because it's in the area I guess. Reval and Riga are also visited regularly.

Same thing happens with me. :smile: They will typically siege a castle for days on end and never actually attack it. Then when they feel they have sufficiently bored the enemy to death they will move onto the next castle.

put urself in the city and if they seriously outnumber u like 500 more than u then they will attack

Problem is though that I think those little pissant sieges ruin your prosperity.

 
nox 说:
catking2003 说:
Veraxus5 说:
slon02 说:
tell people to follow you or you'll have them drowned in boiling oil..

Pffft... How pathetic... While playing as the Tsar I for one try to follow in the footsteps of one of the greatest trolls to ever live... Ivan the Terrible. Don't threaten your lords with boiling liquids. Rather, threaten to publicly rip their beards out by hand. Now if that doesn't lubricate the wheels of change then I don't know what will.

Edit:

They'll start by sieging Dzvinsk castle for a few days, then ride off to Narva without even attacking to do a little hard siegework there. Thenn they'll pay a visit in Riga, eventually at Dorpat and Dzvinsk again because it's in the area I guess. Reval and Riga are also visited regularly.

Same thing happens with me. :smile: They will typically siege a castle for days on end and never actually attack it. Then when they feel they have sufficiently bored the enemy to death they will move onto the next castle.

put urself in the city and if they seriously outnumber u like 500 more than u then they will attack

Problem is though that I think those little pissant sieges ruin your prosperity.

well I exploit caravan so don't care about city prosperity :/
 
Well I finally managed to get that peace quest! I then had to bribe some guy with the spare change I found the other day. (Read: Stuff I stole, mostly from the dead. Not all of them were dead when I stole from them but that condition tends to settle in quite quickly when I'm around.) Afterwards I had to beat up some Swede. I didn't quiet catch his name, so I had to annihilate half of the Swedish realm to find him but eventually he turned up in the muck underneath a stone, the average Swedes usual habitat.
Although I had to visit every city in the Tsardom at least twice. Stupid mayors and their peasant concerns. Who the **** do they think I am? I put most of those cities to the torch by myself, decending on them like the fist of an angry god. A fist armed with two muskets and a nasty hammer and 300 more fists at his back. I broke the walls, slew the men, plundered the orphanages and ra...invited the women to dinner. With candles and stuff. All very civil and totally no screaming involved, no siree. 
I own this stupid city and all the others around it. I own every measly peasant scraping around in the dirt or whatever it is what peasants do when they're not catching bullets for my soldiers. I own the mayor, I own his wife, his pimpled son and Scratches the limping housecat. I own everything. I'm so filthy rich, when I clip my toenails and offer them for sale the gross domestic product of the entire nation doubles and he dares ask me to lug a crate of beer halfway across the known world for 150 Thaler.
Sometimes taking a city just once is not enough!
 
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