easyness and girls of your country?

[Temujin]

unfortunately you are right about many dutch girls. but many non dutch guys are that way to. and i don't see why women couldn't act that way and man can. i don't sleep with any girl i can get. it's just not right. it seems like many immigrants see dutch women as a sort of status symbol.
we have a name for those girls. i won't post it because pavlov will erase it again. but you know what i mean.

I know, Some foreign girls are like this too by the way (I blame MTV/TMF and teen movies) the thing is, anny young man has certain urges, we foreigners have these urges just as every other man even every dutch young man, the problem is however that it's not easy to find an Imigrant woman to help you with these urges, because of manny reasons

- they don't drink that much, and are not yet corrupted enough by MTV/TMF/houseparties/ teen movies

- they have big famillies: everytime we saw a beautifull foreign girl, we allways had to take into account that touching her would mean: her 10 cousins knocking on your door (I have nieces, my oldest one had a boyfriend once, that boyfriend kissed another girl soon after, that boy was hospitalized by one of my cousins, and her other Ex is hiding somewhere from my cousins because if we find him he's dead because he broke her heart.)

Dutch people, white people in general I think don't protect eachother like that, and their girls seem to love to party. and if something is offered for free without anny obligations, then why not accept it? after all we ARE healthy young men with healthy urges.

(I have to admit tough, some foreign girls are easy too, and I do know 2 white girls that I realy respect and I'm quite sure at least one of those 2 is nothing like the "sletjes" )

this is the base of this discussion, I was acusing dutch girls of being easy especially compared to foreign girls in the Netherlands.

Annyway how are the girls in your country regarding this subject? and what do you think is the cause of this?

I might say something idiotic now, but to me it seems as English girls are redicilously easy too. I see manny of them in spain every year when I go there on holliday, and it seems as if they'd do a dog if you fed them enough alcohol, wich, they seem to drink in large quantities without knowing the word restrain.

 

[sheek]

I think this thread is pretty stupid and insulting actually.

Maybe there's a reason why "I'm a girly" thread gets 10,000 views...

 

[pzler]

topic to continue a weird discussion i'm having without spamming a different topic.
if someone has the guts to spam this topic with racism ill let pavlov oppres you as well!!!!

well balkenende is right about one thing. this country is losing its morals.

i don't see a problem with white and black people having a relationship. (i'm in love with a girl from india) but when i look at my old class there are 5 girls with an interracial child that they have to take care of without the father. that bothers me. dutch girls are often easy when they are young and start to regret it when they get older
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[Juno]

English women are sluts... i can think of a few other words but ill stick with this one... of all western countries we have the highest teen pregnancy rate... and frankly there isnt a challenge in picking up a girl anymore, sumthing i used to like. anyone else agree with me?

 

[pzler]

the reason for the pregnancies is probably the house and welfare you get in england

 

[Juno]

the reason for the pregnancies is probably the house and welfare you get in england

you dont get a house... the terrorists have them all.... but oh no, even tho the government knows who they are we have to respect their human rights! (sorry off subject, ill stop now)

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

I would say that a lot of English women are easy, yes. But there are also some who are not.

(Edit: Same for the English men, really)

 

[Juno]

I would say that a lot of English women are easy, yes. But there are also some who are not.

(Edit: Same for the English men, really)

'tis true it depends where you go i suppose.... genrally in the south they are much less easy as the are up north about that kind of stuff. but in northern cities like Manchester, Liverpool and other smaller ones sum of the people that just come up to u can be really...whats the word....disturbing

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

I don't think that northern women are particularly more easy than southern women, it's just that they're more blatant about it.

On the other hand, my experience of southern men is that they are more obvious about being 'on the pull' than northern men.

 

[Temujin]

topic to continue a weird discussion i'm having without spamming a different topic.
if someone has the guts to spam this topic with racism ill let pavlov oppres you as well!!!!

well balkenende is right about one thing. this country is losing its morals.

i don't see a problem with white and black people having a relationship. (i'm in love with a girl from india) but when i look at my old class there are 5 girls with an interracial child that they have to take care of without the father. that bothers me. dutch girls are often easy when they are young and start to regret it when they get older
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to answer this one:

yeah that is wrong, annny man that impragnates a woman should be man enough to take care of the child.

Balkenende isn't entirely right by the way, the country hasn't changed a bit from 10 years ago. the big difference today is, that there are more foreigners these days and that people notice problems sooner when someone is distinctively different (like brown skinned)

the way i see it the Netherlands haven't changed a bit. the same junkies beg for my money at the station as the ones 10 years ago, poor areas where criminallity is high still exist in the exact same places as 10 years ago, the big difference today is IMO that the people that used to live there have been relocated and slowly been replaced by foreigners because those houses are so cheap. the colour and background of the people changed but the social issues that drove the people to morale decay or criminal life still exist. people only notice it sooner because of how the media presents it.

Edgar Davids said it in a good way in an interview once. he said: "when a Dutch guy with suriname background commits a crime, the media sais: Suriname guy commits crime! but when Kluivert the Suriname guy scores a goal for the netherlands the Media sais: Kluivert the Dutch guy scores"

that's why people notice more. and blame foreigners for doing what Natives did 10, 20, 30 years ago too.

look at the "kampen" most people living there are Native Dutch but there isn't a crime most of those guys didn't commit. yet nobody seems to distrust them? 30 year olds take 13 year old girls as their girlfriends at those places and sleep with them, and nobody sais something about it because to them it's normal and most people don't know this because they don't want to know, or because the thought of Dutch people capable of doing bad things doesn't even occur to them, it's allways "the evil foreigner"! My cousin can't come into a store without being followed by an employee, and he never stole a thing in his life! I can't get on a bus without people suddenly holding their purse verry tight, and I never stole a purse in my life!

Also I don't aprove of Balkenende's drug policy, he wants to close a lot of coffeeshops and blames them for a lot of today's problems, but the way I experienced it, they actually kept a lot of guys from the streets. just imagine if they close 100 coffeeshops, you'll have at least 1000 extra youth that will just start hanging arount on street corners and smoke their weed there. wich will make people feel even more unsafe.

I Know at least one coffeeshop that should never be closed because all the people that allways sit in there will just hang around on the street trying to sell coke to french tourists if they can't hang out in that coffeeshop annymore. and i bet this goes for at least 50% of all coffeeshops.

 

[sheek]

So Temujin what's with the racial antagonism? Why do you talk about "us" and "them". You're half white aren't you?

 

[weltonia]

UK has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in europe... I think that says it all really.

I see someone else has already stated it..

But anyway english women are slutty i remember being at school at around the age of 11 and girls were taking fingers, 13 they were smoking guys etc.

Truely disgusting imo, of course when you are that age it dosent seem like it but now i look back and realise how horrid they are.

I remember speaking to a guy from the netherlands and he was 21 and he was shagging a 14 year old girl... Thats not a slutty girl thats a sick male, what makes it worse is he says its comman.

 

[Temujin]

So Temujin what's with the racial antagonism? Why do you talk about "us" and "them". You're half white aren't you?

not to white people, brown hair, brown skin brown eyes. most of my conversations with strangers go like this:

so, your from morocco ain't you?
me: no
them: really? turkey then?
me: no
them: oh sorry, didn't know your where spannish
me: do I look like a guy that likes paella?
them: sorry sorry didn't realize, you must be Italian then
me: am I hitting on you/your girlfriend?
them: well what the hell are you then
me: Indo
them: huh??
me: Part Indonesian
them: but, but, your eyes aren't chinky (or how do you right that word annyway?)
me: you racist piece of sh** bastard not all asians have eyes like that you dumb f***! Asia is the largest continent on the world turks and russians are concidered Asian too, did you know that, you dumb peace of sh**
them: vuile makak, vuile zwarte etc...(translated: dirty morocan, dirty black guy)

I've gottent to the point that when white people go: hi whats your name?
I answer "Ali el shoarma el falafel el Kebab"

haven't met a single person yet that didn't belive me when I introduced myself like that.

So If people don't see me as half white since the day i was born, then why should I concider myself white? as far as I'm concerned I'm Asian

 

[weltonia]

Trem mate take a chill pill, ignorance isnt something you should get upset about.

 

[Temujin]

I remember speaking to a guy from the netherlands and he was 21 and he was shagging a 14 year old girl... Thats not a slutty girl thats a sick male, what makes it worse is he says its comman.

yeah it is geting common and it worries me because i have a niece that age. I'm trying to convince her to join a monastery and devote her life to being a virgin because boys/men can't be trusted.

annyway. one problem here is that girls go out at a younger age and dress and make up to look 17. (you have to be 16 to enter a club) so people think it's safe to do things to girls they meet there and then later it turns out the girls are really 14.

It happened to me once (this ws in Belgium by the way), well I didn't do annything but my mate dissapeared and suddenly came back with 2 girls and was like: they are hot I just kissed that one, you can have the other we talk a bit dance a bit and then take them to my place.
after talking 5 minutes to them I was thinking: man they are pretty damn childish so I asked: so how old are you girls annyway? turned out they were 15 and 14 and their parents didn't know where they where. I freaked out and started lecturing them on the dangers of going out without the parents knowing where they went, and how men can't be trusted and what they'd do if they met the wrong guy etc... they got annoyed by it and left. later they where dancing with some guy who was telling every guy in the club that for 20 euro he would arange that people could have sex with those girls. I felt bad and responsible and so I spend the entire evening keeping an eye on that guy to check what he was up to. and warning people that those girls where way too young

stuff like that terifies me.

an annekdote from the netherlands was when one of my nieces was 15 she went out with some ladyfriends and I went too to keep an eye on my niece (my aunt asked me to)

annyway at one point I started talking to some guy who was 28 and he was telling me about his 14 year old ex and how he just saw a hot chick that he wanted to screw, I told him to point out the girl and I thought he pointed at my niece, so I grabbed his throat and screemed: that's my niece you sick pervert! It turned out he was pointing towards her friend tough and not my niece so i let go to avoid being kicked out.


about the chill pill:

Imagine that conversation to happen at least once a day for the past 5 years.

also in school I've been bullied a lot since i was 8 because of my skin coulour. it's a sensitive subject for me.

 

[sheek]

Sounds like there are a lot of ignorant people in the Netherlands then. I have the impression Holland is supposed to be a mixed place so people should be used to it.

 

[weltonia]

Imagine that conversation to happen at least once a day for the past 5 years.

also in school I've been bullied a lot since i was 8 because of my skin coulour. it's a sensitive subject for me.

Move to england my freind, where multi culture is a lifestyle

youl still get beaten ****less, probably more often but it wont be because of race atleast

 

[Temujin]

Sounds like there are a lot of ignorant people in the Netherlands then. I have the impression Holland is supposed to be a mixed place so people should be used to it.

I lived in the netherlands and belgium, most of this happened in belgium to be honest. tough I'm seeing the netherlands going downhill at the rate of a hungry turtle chasing a leaf

 

[Ingolifs]

But not at the rate of a fat person chasing a twinkie?

 

[Temujin]

no luckilly it's not that fast yet.

lol ever since Pavlov made that brilliant remark i keep imagining a fat chick chasing a twinky