Drugs: Prohibition, Decriminalization or Legalization?

[Cheesus89]

I don't really approve of drugs, but Faunus' suggestion sounds reasonable.

 

[Austupaio]

I just don't understand how is that Marijuana, which just SOME consider harmful, is illegal , while "hunting" assault rifles are sold with a small restriction.

Way to prove you don't know what you're on about.

 

[Helmuth]

I just don't understand how is that Marijuana, which just SOME consider harmful, is illegal , while "hunting" assault rifles are sold with a small restriction.

Way to prove you don't know what you're on about.

Gun Control Act of 1968

....foreign made assault rifles and machine guns such as the AK-47, the FN FAL or the Heckler & Koch MP5 could no longer be imported into the United States for civilian ownership However, semi-automatic models of the same weapons are permitted.

 

[Faunus]

I would make all non-perscription drugs illegal (IE: Marijuana, heroin, opium.) The things they can do to your body and mind are just... sick. I really will not listen nor care about anything positive people say about them. They're deadly, period.

lol

Ever heard of medical marijuana? You know, the marijuana to which you can get an prescription for? I guess not. Have you ever seen a person who has consumed marijuana with your own eyes? I thought as much. You don't know the effects marijuana has on the body and mind, yet you still make these pretentious claims. 

 

[Austupaio]

....foreign made assault rifles and machine guns such as the AK-47, the FN FAL or the Heckler & Koch MP5 could no longer be imported into the United States for civilian ownership However, semi-automatic models of the same weapons are permitted.

Not only is that act heinously out-dated, you can't just go out and buy a semi-automatic MP5 unless you live in.. hm.. let's say Nevada or Wisconsin. Even Texas would give you a harsh time with that.

There's also the fact that those are prohibitively expensive.

This thread seems to be about half and half American and British, obviously you can't buy an AK47 in Britain.

America's gun laws may be loose, but they're not that loose. I know, I'm trying to get a gun license and figure out what I can get with my security clearance.

 

[Mixedpotatoes]

America's gun laws may be loose, but they're not that loose. I know, I'm trying to get a gun license and figure out what I can get with my security clearance.

http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia

Guy is in USA, he can buy a military grade automatic 40 mm cannon. Also, minigun, M249, everything else. He says when you're in the right state you can buy any gun if you got a license for all the types - money is the only obstacle! Gun laws in America sure are ****ed up.

 

[Austupaio]

Yes, one absurdly wealthy person with a veritable bible of connections = the laws are ****ed up.

Because there's no one in England with three running WWII era tanks with functional cannons and machine guns. Oh wait, there is, the gun laws in England sure are ****ed up.

If it was that easy, I'd have a sub-machine gun sitting around somewhere.

 

[leprechaun]

Because there's no one in England with three running WWII era tanks with functional cannons and machine guns. Oh wait, there is, the gun laws in England sure are ****ed up.

Nah, three WWII tanks sounds almost exactly like the British Army in about three years' time

 

[Mage246]

Nah, sounds more like what the rioters will be equipped with in 3 years time. The police will go into battle wielding Nerf weapons.

 

[Phonemelter]

I am cool with legalizing pot, as long as you can't smoke it in public (as Faunus suggested). I personally do not want to be exposed to it, but could care less if people use it.

 

[BalanceofTerror]

I would make all non-perscription drugs illegal (IE: Marijuana, heroin, opium.) The things they can do to your body and mind are just... sick. I really will not listen nor care about anything positive people say about them. They're deadly, period.

I must applaud you. Ignorance and a stubborn declaration of close-mindedness in one sentence? Truly admirable. Also, following your statement to its logical conclusion, making all non-prescription drugs illegal would mean you wouldn't have your ibuprofen or aspirin for when you have a bit of a headache. But then again, it's deadly, right?

Well maybe I didn't phrase it right. Perhaps I should've said all drugs you buy from a junkie on the side of the road.

 

[Kobrag]

I would make all non-perscription drugs illegal (IE: Marijuana, heroin, opium.) The things they can do to your body and mind are just... sick. I really will not listen nor care about anything positive people say about them. They're deadly, period.

I must applaud you. Ignorance and a stubborn declaration of close-mindedness in one sentence? Truly admirable. Also, following your statement to its logical conclusion, making all non-prescription drugs illegal would mean you wouldn't have your ibuprofen or aspirin for when you have a bit of a headache. But then again, it's deadly, right?

Well maybe I didn't phrase it right. Perhaps I should've said all drugs you buy from a junkie on the side of the road.

Still a ****ing stupid idea, since it's currently failing as it has helped prop up organsied crime for the last 70 odd years.

 

[Lost-Lamb]

Legalise everything.

No, not just drugs, absolutely everything.

 

[BalanceofTerror]

I imagine that wouldn't work very well.

 

[Yugrath]

Difficult to say anything about it cause there are so many factors. I think drugs may have some benefits but people are often dumb or act dumb and drugs can be mean and affect the children of its abusers. Children, who had no part in deciding to burn the bong. If procreating were prohibited for drug abusers, may be I won't be so against them.

 

[Kobrag]

Difficult to say anything about it cause there are so many factors. I think drugs may have some benefits but people are often dumb or act dumb and drugs can be mean and affect the children of its abusers. Children, who had no part in deciding to burn the bong. If procreating were prohibited for drug abusers, may be I won't be so against it.

What about banning Achohol and tobacco?
They alter the gentics of unborn children.

 

[Yugrath]

Erm may be they'll mutate us for the better but I'm not a fan of either. May be it's a question of degree of tolerance

 

[Wheem]

Pot's a lot easier to acquire than meth and cocaine.

At least one reason it's easier to acquire is that it's more popular; lots of pot heads don't want anything stronger. And as a side note, I've heard that it's typically easier for teenagers to get pot than it is for them to get alcohol. I suppose most drug dealers don't care to check ID.

Seems like the methods of going after these drugs seem to be in err. Someone mentioned the Spanish have it pretty well down I think earlier in the thread?

Yes, America's war on drugs is one of the worst policies our government has ever implemented; even those people who are in favor of continued prohibition should be able to see what a terrible thing it is. And the country you're thinking of is Portugal, by the way - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuvXdqKM0M (I don't think their system is perfect, but it's certainly better than sending in SWAT teams to serve warrants for non-violent, misdemeanor drug offenses)

Has this point been brought up?

In the States, legalizing something loosely means that you can't hire based on discriminating against it, drug tests would become un-constitutional. Do I want to hire or be forced to work with more junkies than I already do?

Hell no. I'm working towards a business where I'll need at least three employees and I'm sure as hell getting workers who don't smoke or drink.

You'll get fired for going to work drunk, so why would you think it'd be allowable to go to work high if drugs were legalized?

Gun Control Act of 1968

....foreign made assault rifles and machine guns such as the AK-47, the FN FAL or the Heckler & Koch MP5 could no longer be imported into the United States for civilian ownership However, semi-automatic models of the same weapons are permitted.

There's no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle - that's a contradiction in terms. And it's incredibly rare that any AK-type rifle, FN FAL, etc...whether semi-automatic or selective fire, gets used in the commission of a crime in the USA. The vast majority of guns used in crimes are small frame pistols, but they don't look near as scary as an AK so there's less whining about it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia

Guy is in USA, he can buy a military grade automatic 40 mm cannon. Also, minigun, M249, everything else. He says when you're in the right state you can buy any gun if you got a license for all the types - money is the only obstacle! Gun laws in America sure are ****ed up.

When was the last time an American criminal made use of 40mm cannon, minigun, or M249? Your panties are in a bunch over things that aren't even really threatening to you; and in that sense you're not that much different from many of the drug warriors.

Legalise everything.

No, not just drugs, absolutely everything.

Pretty much, though I'd add the, "as long as it doesn't harm someone else" caveat.

 

[FrisianDude]

That caveat is too broad. What if someone says your use of 'colourful language' harms them. **** them, of course, but they'd have a case against you just because they're pussies with no sense of language.

 

[Wheem]

True. I suppose a better wording for the caveat would be, "unless it violates the negative rights of another person." (Emphasis on the word negative, due to the tendency of so many people these days to declare that everything they like is a right).