Drugs: Prohibition, Decriminalization or Legalization?

[Mixedpotatoes]

I'm for legalizing and controlling ALL drugs and substances. Come at me bro. Discuss. Will come with more meated arguments later, I'm going to sleep now, will check which turn the discussion goes to in the morning.

 

[Pharaoh Llandy]

I think drugs like heroin should be gotten rid of completely. Opiates should be used only for their medicinal properties. And these days, synthetic opiates such as codeine are manufactured all the time.

 

[FrisianDude]

I'm all for legalization but in order for that to work perfectly everyone'd need to well.. think. Seeing as by far most people tend not to I don't doubt legalization might increase the number of addicts, at first. But legalization would also make it easier to help them, so that'd balance out. Heh. Would help quite some governmental coffers if they properly do things. Chance of which is remote, but still.

I think drugs like heroin should be gotten rid of completely. Opiates should be used only for their medicinal properties.

Kinda impossible to ensure.

 

[Mixedpotatoes]

I think drugs like heroin should be gotten rid of completely.

If it could be possible, that would be the better option. You'd really need strict laws though, and that might affect the general masses.

Opiates should be used only for their medicinal properties.

Is it a medical property to cease addiction?

And these days, synthetic opiates such as codeine are manufactured all the time.

True, but the Krokodil/codeine stuff isn't preferred by the junkies. It's made because it's cheaper than normal heroine. They said in an article they would use normal heroine if they had the money.

 

[Archonsod]

Would help quite some governmental coffers if they properly do things.

So would genocide or eugenics. But that doesn't make it a good argument in favour of them.

 

[Verbeek]

It's fine illegal. I'm not gonna pay drugtaxes.

 

[Overlord-]

I think drugs like heroin should be gotten rid of completely.

I don't think that such a thing possible at all. There are countless people who live in areas where drugs are their only way of getting sufficient income.

 

[Kobrag]

It's fine illegal. I'm not gonna pay drugtaxes.

You already do, the millions wasted in the 'war against drugs'.
Supply and demand will always triumph over the stupidity of governments believing that they can control the market!

 

[Radalan]

Sure legalize marihuana, whatever.

Stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine and all that other ****, are you crazy? That'd be pretty ****ing stupid.

 

[Kobrag]

Sure legalize marihuana, whatever.

Stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine and all that other ****, are you crazy? That'd be pretty ****ing stupid.

Not really, it's complettley the users fault for any side affects they suffer.

 

[leprechaun]

I hear the Portugese model of cracking down on the dealers while un-demonising addiction and offering lots and lots of free rehab centres for those who get hooked, without then whacking them in jail for possession, works pretty well these days. Surprise, surprise

 

[bgfan]

I just want weed legalized.

 

[Seff]

Kobrag: The consequence of relatively small errors are proportionately larger, though, and a fair few of the hard drugs are pretty unforgiving in many ways.

I wouldn't mind legalizing cannabis-based things, but hard drugs? Nah.

 

[Lyze]

Agreed, Seff.

Meth isn't a drug you want to **** with. You take it once, and more than likely, you're a part of the majority statistic that's hooked on first try. A lot of the time, you're not even intending to try it. The dirty dealers lace the softer drugs with the hard stuff to hook you in and then start milking you for cash. You see it a lot on the East Side, here, and it's not pretty.

 

[Tibertus]

Meth is absolutely disgusting in what it does to people. I could never agree to it being legal.

Sure legalize marihuana, whatever.

Stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine and all that other ****, are you crazy? That'd be pretty ****ing stupid.

Not really, it's complettley the users fault for any side affects they suffer.

And then it's society's responsibility to assist the addicted, meaning it'd be stupid of the government to legalize something which will invariably cause more financial burden on tax payers.

 

[Seff]

Even weed has dangers(psychosis), but then so does alcohol.

And what Tibertus said.

 

[Lord Burgess1]

Sure legalize marihuana, whatever.

Stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine and all that other ****, are you crazy? That'd be pretty ****ing stupid.

Not really, it's complettley the users fault for any side affects they suffer.

That's a retarded argument, should we also legalise suicide vests?

 

[Kobrag]

Sure legalize marihuana, whatever.

Stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine and all that other ****, are you crazy? That'd be pretty ****ing stupid.

Not really, it's complettley the users fault for any side affects they suffer.

That's a retarded argument, should we also legalise suicide vests?

Those directly harm other people.
Drugs only directly harm the user.
And the the harm issue, if you got all the nicotine out of a pack of cigs and injected it into your body, you would die quite quickly.

 

[K-64]

What about drug fuelled rampages and passive smoking?

 

[Swadius 2.0]

Sure legalize marihuana, whatever.

Stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine and all that other ****, are you crazy? That'd be pretty ****ing stupid.

Not really, it's complettley the users fault for any side affects they suffer.

That's a retarded argument, should we also legalise suicide vests?

Those directly harm other people.
Drugs only directly harm the user.
And the the harm issue, if you got all the nicotine out of a pack of cigs and injected it into your body, you would die quite quickly.

Hard drugs like cocaine and meth impact the user's friends and family. And in the wider context the immediate community that the individual is in. While emotional trauma isn't directly tangible, it's still very real. The amount of hardship of dealing with a loved one or a friend that is pushed to robbing people and lying to people is incredibly significant. Moreover, this probably isn't what the addict wants in the first place. When a person becomes addicted, they're not completely there. I think in the majority of the cases, addicts don't want to be addicted, even the ones who are falling back into their addictions.

As for responsibility, quite a few of the people that try this stuff out are young people, or people who are, by and large in this segment of their life, rash and experimental. It's well understood that most teenagers do things they are not entirely informed on, just as I suspect many of your friends as well as mine in the teenage years, or perhaps even yourself and I, do things that weren't exactly rational or well thought-out.