Drafting population from towns..

[KnightMare123]

Hey guys... I'm not sure if this was posted earlier(I tried searching the forum though..)....but is it possible to draft population from the towns/castles into your armies/garrisons...like when I capture a settlement, I have to station my valuable knights there..To make a sizable garrison it would take forever to train and stuff the town with troops..

I'm currently helping Lady Isolla to reclaim the throne...I offered all the castles to her and kept the towns for myself...but after 3/4 days her castle is filled 100+(low quality) troops(even though she was traveling with me) but my towns still have only those 25 swadian knights I garrisoned initially...am I missing something or is it something you can do only in castles or you can't do at all......

Any help would be appreciated

 

[bugman]

Its just how the AI works.

Imagine she's sent out riders to tell her troops to garrison her new castles. The only way you can garrison something is by placing your troops you got from Fiefs into them.

 

[Lord Rust]

No, the AI cheats.

 

[KnightMare123]

Thnx for quick reply... 

So bottom-line....I'll have to capture a town wait for the next 2 days for my companions to train them into footmen and then garrison them ... all the while having to run around with a crappy army ... that means to get a decent size(150+) garrison I'll have to gather recruits for at least a week..  ..right now i just keep all my fiefs close and rush as soon as i get a "besieged message" ... i guess that would be faster bcoz the AI rarely attacks deep into my territory... So given that I started from a corner(vaegir)I can push my way through caladria..but methinks that would be difficult in later stages as the surface length of my kingdom would get larger ...

So any tips on how to get a good garrison in a town quickly..

 

[Dragon13]

Just build a huge recruit army and garrison them. The AI only looks at the number, not the quality.

 

[corbaer]

Get your training skill up.  I can train about 100 fully trained sergeants, hurscals and sharpshooters in about 5 days hunting Forest Bandits and helping a friendly faction in battles.

 

[KnightMare123]

My party size limit is about 200 so the best thing would be to just leave the knights in the castle...run around looking for recruits and then exchange the army..I have 9 companions each with 5-8 trainer skill so i guess I'll garrison them all at a minimum footman/M@A level...

 

[KnightMare123]

Get your training skill up.  I can train about 100 fully trained sergeants, hurscals and sharpshooters in about 5 days hunting Forest Bandits and helping a friendly faction in battles.

That would be 3-4 days for me...

 

[ajaxfetish]

My party size limit is about 200 so the best thing would be to just leave the knights in the castle...run around looking for recruits and then exchange the army..I have 9 companions each with 5-8 trainer skill so i guess I'll garrison them all at a minimum footman/M@A level...

Better to garrison them as recruits.  They're dirt cheap that way and you shouldn't be relying on them to fight anyway.  And they make for a quick recruitment pool if you need it. 

Ajax

 

[corbaer]

I understand the logic of garrisoning untrained recruits to save a few denars, but I still only garrison fully trained troops.

I'd rather recruit from towns I'm walking by already, and be able to fill a warparty from my reserves with capable troops when I need them.  Also when 1200 troop parties siege my towns, recruits simply don't hold up.

Since I treat all of the peasants well... I can usually recruit the village maximum on most visits to the village.

 

[KnightMare123]

I understand the logic of garrisoning untrained recruits to save a few denars, but I still only garrison fully trained troops.

I'd rather recruit from towns I'm walking by already, and be able to fill a warparty from my reserves with capable troops when I need them.  Also when 1200 troop parties siege my towns, recruits simply don't hold up.

Since I treat all of the peasants well... I can usually recruit the village maximum on most visits to the village.

But how do you get all the money to pay for all the elite troops They cost about 30-40(15-20 when garrisoned) per troop depending on your leadership skill and assuming you garrison at least 200(Which by the way still won't be able to hold out against a 1200 enemy party ) that takes the cost to almost 3500/4000 per town. No town can pay back that much tax(I'm assuming you only capture towns..castles are almost worthless for taxes)... You'd have to go nuts and raid every village you encounter..

 

[corbaer]

I don't ever raid towns... so I can get more troops.  I have decent looting, trade skills, prisoner management and inventory stats, so every time I do battle, I make a sizable amount of denars.  I also make the 3980 at every tournament.

No 200 elite troops won't hold up to a 1200 warparty... but they seem to make the siege last longer so that I can arrive.  I haven't lost a siege defense yet.

 

[Kazdum]

Better thing to do if you want to have low tier troops in the garrison, level trainer with one of your npcs on yourself, put your current troops in your garrison, travel all the villages looking for recruits, wait 3-4 days in your castle, upgrade them and put them in there. They have low costs but protect the castle well, you wont lose anything having them in sieges and also lords with low troops wont even try to siege them.

 

[KnightMare123]

Thanx for all the replies guys...I think garrisoning recruits worked out as the best one for me(I don't want to spend 20k per week on troops like i used to..)....about 250 per town and cost...well nothing.... no one has attacked it yet and it's been a month(game time)....

one question though....
not that it matter a lot but I'm just curious..
Do the recruits(maintenance: 1) cost 1 denar or 1/2 denars when garrisoned...cuz if the game calculates the cost of individual units then it probably may cost 1 denar bcoz I haven't seen any fractional monetary values..

any insights??

 

[Kazdum]

Probably every 2 recruits 1 denar, or nothing at all.