Does anyone use Nvidia's 285.58 drivers? If so, how did you install them ?
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hairfree
That^...Or use the 285.62 one. It hasn't bothered me...yet.
hairfree
Registry clean up of the driver and installing anew not helping either?
Drivers tend to make a mess of registry, and Windows is dumb *****, allowing the installation, even if it's incompatible or just in conflict with left-behind files.
Drivers tend to make a mess of registry, and Windows is dumb *****, allowing the installation, even if it's incompatible or just in conflict with left-behind files.
Tralfaz
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I'm using Driver Cleaner, but if you mean actually deleteing all the Nvidia keys from the registry, no, I haven't tried that yet. Also tried in Safe Mode, but it's not working there either. Never had any kind of trouble like this before, so it's either that there's somthing on my system the new installer doesn't like, though I've had no error messages, or(what I think), the installer's screwy, and needs to be fixed.
hairfree
Installers... 
Have a peek and follow, for a nice clean driver install. If you can't be bothered reading through the whole thing, just go through the first and second posts. It's likely to help.
Have a peek and follow, for a nice clean driver install. If you can't be bothered reading through the whole thing, just go through the first and second posts. It's likely to help.
Tralfaz
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First, I have a Gigabyte card, not EVGA, though I'm not sure if it matters.
"You can no longer user the Windows "Roll back" display driver function in Device Manager" BRIILIANT! Now, if the drivers aren't working right for some reason, you have to do a System Restore instead of just rolling back the drivers. "I cannot begin to explain how upsetting and sad it is, to read the postings of users who have failed to understand these changes..." THE ****? Hey! Maybe all of us users aren't such harcore graphics guys that we know these things(guy gets a Golden Douche award). "Given the current state of Nvidia driver development and its rapid changes, and the constant changing of the Nvidia installer package and its componets...
**I most strongly suggest that no user download or install a newer driver version, without first reading that releases "Release Notes", as these changes are ongoing and will likely become much worse as the Kepler release and DirectX 11.1 approaches...." Oh, sure! Because we all expected big changes, since everyone always checks the Nvidia forums, because we all love knowing every little detail about drivers...
(I REALLY hate people who think it's common for most people to have detailed, in-depth knowledge of games, or drivers, or hardware)
Got to the second post, and I'm thinking, "HOLY ****! This is WAY more complicated than it should be." I think I might check on how bad ATI drivers are to install. This is ridiculous.
Edit: I'm also using 32-bit XP, not 7, so the guide's not that helpful to me anyway. lol
"You can no longer user the Windows "Roll back" display driver function in Device Manager" BRIILIANT! Now, if the drivers aren't working right for some reason, you have to do a System Restore instead of just rolling back the drivers. "I cannot begin to explain how upsetting and sad it is, to read the postings of users who have failed to understand these changes..." THE ****? Hey! Maybe all of us users aren't such harcore graphics guys that we know these things(guy gets a Golden Douche award).
"Given the current state of Nvidia driver development and its rapid changes, and the constant changing of the Nvidia installer package and its componets... **I most strongly suggest that no user download or install a newer driver version, without first reading that releases "Release Notes", as these changes are ongoing and will likely become much worse as the Kepler release and DirectX 11.1 approaches...." Oh, sure! Because we all expected big changes, since everyone always checks the Nvidia forums, because we all love knowing every little detail about drivers...
(I REALLY hate people who think it's common for most people to have detailed, in-depth knowledge of games, or drivers, or hardware)Got to the second post, and I'm thinking, "HOLY ****! This is WAY more complicated than it should be." I think I might check on how bad ATI drivers are to install. This is ridiculous.
Edit: I'm also using 32-bit XP, not 7, so the guide's not that helpful to me anyway. lol
Taimat396
Baron
Well the ATI drivers won't work with your card anyway
I've had a similar problem with windows buggering up drivers. When I installed the new HDD with the new copy of windows without removing/formatting the old one. Forget how exactly I did it, but basically you wipe all trace of the old ones. Registry and files, though you've already done the files.
Gonna hazard a guess that you got a registry problem.
...I tried reading through Geren's link, find the relevant bits for you, but I couldn't do it. The guy's too much of a self important prick. Just google it. Do a quick read through add/remove programs for any, scrap them, then check program files etc. Not files turn up, go do the registry stuff google gives you. Or search that page for driversweeper. Just skim it, thare's more pompous asshattery in there.
I've had a similar problem with windows buggering up drivers. When I installed the new HDD with the new copy of windows without removing/formatting the old one. Forget how exactly I did it, but basically you wipe all trace of the old ones. Registry and files, though you've already done the files.
Gonna hazard a guess that you got a registry problem.
...I tried reading through Geren's link, find the relevant bits for you, but I couldn't do it. The guy's too much of a self important prick. Just google it. Do a quick read through add/remove programs for any, scrap them, then check program files etc. Not files turn up, go do the registry stuff google gives you. Or search that page for driversweeper. Just skim it, thare's more pompous asshattery in there.
Tralfaz
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I, ummm... wasn't suggesting that I'd use ATI drivers with an Nvidia card, but that I'd buy an ATI card if Nvidia is this much trouble. Not sure how you missed that.
Can't think of what would be wrong with my registry, but if it is, it's been there since August of last year, when I first tried to install the 280.26 drivers.
Can't think of what would be wrong with my registry, but if it is, it's been there since August of last year, when I first tried to install the 280.26 drivers.
hairfree
That's nVidia for you. ATI aren't much better in that line of thoughts.Anyhow, it's not really all that complicated - it's mostly average-for-the-somewhat-experienced-gamer stuff. More like, 10 pages of read for 20 mouse clicks if some of your settings already match, but for the unexperienced it could be quite the pain, I reckon. If you have to do it ever so often, as I had (due to ickle relatives being hell for any PC), you'd find it just...a time consuming annoyance.
Anyway, most steps aren't really required either and have slightly quicker workarounds, but I'll not bother you with those, though some of the steps this guy takes are somewhat irrelevant.
As for the registry, it's not necessarily a video drivers issue. Could be a whole lot of other obsolete software bits bogging it down.
Ah, well...was the first thing I found that was somewhat well written. Haven't read through the whole thing in detail myself. But aye, the guy does sound a bit like an uppity bastard.
Agreed, google up something.
Tralfaz
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I'm not "bogged down" I just want the new shinies I'd get with newer drivers. I THINK that the distance I can see detailed objects(in SWTOR at least) is reduced from what it'd be with new drivers. I've seen flowers and grass "grow" as I approach. They aren't visible, then, as I get closer, they seem almost to be raised, like this _ / | (best example I can think of now). And yeah, it IS that complicated, as I've never had to do anything even remotely close to that to install drivers before, in over 20 years of playing PC games. Next step? The Nvidia OS for your video card.
Taimat396
Baron
Basically, go back to that link, download driversweep, note what boxes it wants you to tick, boot to safe mode, do it.
And the same thing can happen with ATI cards - it's basically windows being stupid with the drivers. Only ever happened to me once, and I did something a bit daft that caused it. In all likelyhood it's just a single old registry entry that's causing a problem.
And the same thing can happen with ATI cards - it's basically windows being stupid with the drivers. Only ever happened to me once, and I did something a bit daft that caused it. In all likelyhood it's just a single old registry entry that's causing a problem.
Tralfaz
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I already have Driver Cleaner(essentially the same as Sweeper), so is Sweeper really necessary? Also, like I said, I neither have an EVGA card, or Windows 7, so I'm not sure how much help the link would be. I alos have 9 tabs in another window open, all of them concerning installing the new drivers. This is complicated and ludicrous enough, that I'm starting to consider Ghosting my drive, then doing a fresh install of Windows. It's that bad. Installing software should NEVER be anywhere near this difficult.
hairfree
OK, a short version simple solution.
Download C cleaner (freeware) and run it. Go to the 'registry' tab. Mind the ticked boxes if you want to keep your browser history, bookmarks, etc. Whatever you do, make sure 'unused file extensions' is not included in the sweep - it's stupid sometimes and deletes files that cannot be opened with already installed software. Click 'analyze', then 'fix'. No real purpose in saving the log, but do so if you wish.
If it's a registry problem, that should fix it up.
Download C cleaner (freeware) and run it. Go to the 'registry' tab. Mind the ticked boxes if you want to keep your browser history, bookmarks, etc. Whatever you do, make sure 'unused file extensions' is not included in the sweep - it's stupid sometimes and deletes files that cannot be opened with already installed software. Click 'analyze', then 'fix'. No real purpose in saving the log, but do so if you wish.
If it's a registry problem, that should fix it up.
Tralfaz
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Well, since it was the EVGA forums, I was under the impression that the problem there was specific to EVGA cards. I know they've had manufacturer-specific drivers before, having previously owned an EVGA card. Also, after spending most of the day trying to get them to work, I finally gave up, and created a second Windows install, and have the drivers installed there. Pisses me off like you wouldn't believe.
