Discussion + Suggestions

[King Edric]

Have you checked the options?

 

[Dago Wolfrider]

Is there any way I can turn routing back on? It really spices up battle imho, shame it is nonexistent in Perisno

No routing avaible: only cavalry archers will flee the battle if they are chased by enemy units till the border of the battlefield.

 

[Lazy Buttons]

Everyone in Perisno is too honorable to flee! They fight to their deaths even when outnumbered and outgunned! Survival instict has no place in the mod.

 

[Dago Wolfrider]

Everyone in Perisno is too honorable to flee! They fight to their deaths even when outnumbered and outgunned! Survival instict has no place in the mod.

I could not have said it better myself.

 

[Dantelh]

Is there any way I can turn routing back on? It really spices up battle imho, shame it is nonexistent in Perisno

I think Routing causes too many bugs. I've noticed in other mods, whenever I fight an enemy with a few dozen less units than me, they all run away getting slaughtered without even putting up a fight.

 

[Dantelh]

Just wanted to say, a musician by the name of Jeremy Soule is letting mod creators use music from their album The Northerner Diaries, with credit of course: https://twitter.com/mistersoule/status/1082919076912017408




Their music is good, and they even have a 17 minute track if longer ones are required. It would be a nice change from the usual music found in Warband.

 

[Lazy Buttons]

So, I know this has been suggested before a million times, but what is the developers' official stance on letting players upgrade their armor/weapons at weaponsmiths and armorsmiths?

Viking Conquest has implemented that option a while ago, and I know a few more mods picked up on that feature as well, such as A World of Ice & Fire. I think the code for that is open source(as long as you credit the creators, I believe?) and shouldn't be very hard to implement either way, since it's mostly just a few strings of conversations, plus the scripts to get the item modifiers and the price it'd take to upgrade. It'd serve as a great sink for money, and give players something to do. It's also a much more elegant implementation than in PoP.

 

[T.L.S.]

Upgrading of equipment  existed in mods (in different forms) since bearded times of vanilla M&B...
But any way it would be nice to have it.

 

[Leonion]

So, I know this has been suggested before a million times, but what is the developers' official stance on letting players upgrade their armor/weapons at weaponsmiths and armorsmiths?

Well, my official stance is that it's insufficient and therefore isn't worth spending time on.
If I ever end up coding armor upgrade feature, it will be like this:

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[Dantelh]

Hmm, sounds like a good system, but impossible for all armors. Though I assume it would only be for medium armors and below, otherwise the custom troop way of categorizing them.

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Also, a suggestion, some hooded helmets/cloaked armor like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-zXsfISvGiU/maxresdefault.jpg. What's a man gotta do to find good northern armor that isn't all black? Not to say it doesn't look good. Though I couldn't find any armor packs like that on the nexus, so it's more of a personal dream. Actually, I'm going to go look again now to see if I can find some to add with Morgh's.

 

[Dago Wolfrider]

Hmm, sounds like a good system, but impossible for all armors. Though I assume it would only be for medium armors and below, otherwise the custom troop way of categorizing them.

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Also, a suggestion, some hooded helmets/cloaked armor like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-zXsfISvGiU/maxresdefault.jpg. What's a man gotta do to find good northern armor that isn't all black? Not to say it doesn't look good. Though I couldn't find any armor packs like that on the nexus, so it's more of a personal dream. Actually, I'm going to go look again now to see if I can find some to add with Morgh's.

Dovahkiin,... ehm Dantelh have you searched here: https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,229.0.html   

 

[Dantelh]

Hmm, sounds like a good system, but impossible for all armors. Though I assume it would only be for medium armors and below, otherwise the custom troop way of categorizing them.

隐藏

Also, a suggestion, some hooded helmets/cloaked armor like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-zXsfISvGiU/maxresdefault.jpg. What's a man gotta do to find good northern armor that isn't all black? Not to say it doesn't look good. Though I couldn't find any armor packs like that on the nexus, so it's more of a personal dream. Actually, I'm going to go look again now to see if I can find some to add with Morgh's.

Dovahkiin,... ehm Dantelh have you searched here: https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,229.0.html   

Of course I knew about the forum dedicated to free stuff! Why wouldn't I? But dang, it's really got a few thousand new items since my last visit erhm, last minute ago.

 

[Dago Wolfrider]

Hmm, sounds like a good system, but impossible for all armors. Though I assume it would only be for medium armors and below, otherwise the custom troop way of categorizing them.

隐藏

Also, a suggestion, some hooded helmets/cloaked armor like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-zXsfISvGiU/maxresdefault.jpg. What's a man gotta do to find good northern armor that isn't all black? Not to say it doesn't look good. Though I couldn't find any armor packs like that on the nexus, so it's more of a personal dream. Actually, I'm going to go look again now to see if I can find some to add with Morgh's.

Dovahkiin,... ehm Dantelh have you searched here: https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,229.0.html   

Of course I knew about the forum dedicated to free stuff! Why wouldn't I? But dang, it's really got a few thousand new items since my last visit erhm, last minute ago.

Is this sarcastic or a joke similar to mine? 
The lack of smileys do leave me doubtful. The usage of erhm makes me lean forward the second interpretation. So, good joke...I guess. 

 

[Dantelh]

Hmm, sounds like a good system, but impossible for all armors. Though I assume it would only be for medium armors and below, otherwise the custom troop way of categorizing them.

隐藏

Also, a suggestion, some hooded helmets/cloaked armor like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-zXsfISvGiU/maxresdefault.jpg. What's a man gotta do to find good northern armor that isn't all black? Not to say it doesn't look good. Though I couldn't find any armor packs like that on the nexus, so it's more of a personal dream. Actually, I'm going to go look again now to see if I can find some to add with Morgh's.

Dovahkiin,... ehm Dantelh have you searched here: https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,229.0.html   

Of course I knew about the forum dedicated to free stuff! Why wouldn't I? But dang, it's really got a few thousand new items since my last visit erhm, last minute ago.

Is this sarcastic or a joke similar to mine? 
The lack of smileys do leave me doubtful. The usage of erhm makes me lean forward the second interpretation. So, good joke...I guess. 

I joke.

 

[Lazy Buttons]

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So, I know this has been suggested before a million times, but what is the developers' official stance on letting players upgrade their armor/weapons at weaponsmiths and armorsmiths?

Well, my official stance is that it's insufficient and therefore isn't worth spending time on.
If I ever end up coding armor upgrade feature, it will be like this:

隐藏

So basically, exactly like transmogrification in WoW? A lofty goal... very ambitious. I thought Warband always pulls the stats for armors, weapons, etc, directly from item_kinds, and only stores their 'upgrade prefix' and 'amount' (battered/chipped/rusty/reinforced/lordly, etc). Which makes this harder than the custom troops/custom Knighthood Orders, where you can store the equipped items and stats of actors in the savegame.
Additionally: your idea doesn't cover upgrading the weapons to Heavy / Balanced / Masterwork, either.
Oh well! Here's hoping for Perisno's module system to be released one day.

 

[hipp522]

Can the Zann be given a default color other than pitch black? I always have to change it.

 

[King Edric]

Changing it literally takes three seconds

 

[Leonion]

So basically, exactly like transmogrification in WoW? A lofty goal... very ambitious. I thought Warband always pulls the stats for armors, weapons, etc, directly from item_kinds, and only stores their 'upgrade prefix' and 'amount' (battered/chipped/rusty/reinforced/lordly, etc). Which makes this harder than the custom troops/custom Knighthood Orders, where you can store the equipped items and stats of actors in the savegame.
Additionally: your idea doesn't cover upgrading the weapons to Heavy / Balanced / Masterwork, either.
Oh well! Here's hoping for Perisno's module system to be released one day.

I didn't play WoW, but judging by google, yes.
Warband does pull item stats from item_kinds but mesh reference can be replaced with a script that chooses it "dynamically", based on your choice.
So I need a bunch of "dummy" items with pre-defined stats and such scripts instead of direct mesh references.
As for upgrades - well, I can just implement it as upgrading to another dummy item with higher stats, or just use prefixes, or both.

The 2 problems are (1) it requires a presentation (and I hate coding them) and (2) I need to learn some Python, for in this case the only reasonable and flexible solution is to write a Python script that will write an MB script. Listing all the meshes manually would be a pain in the ass and would break every time some item is added, removed or replaced.

 

[hipp522]

Changing it literally takes three seconds

Which is why this shouldn't be a difficult fix for the devs?

 

[killer-blead]

I would personally recommend making Dago Wolfrider a sort of moderator to this subforum. He spends a lot of time on this subforum helping people. He is very diligent and hard working.