Discipline

[Bruhlan Revan]

Right, I noticed whenever my lil cousins go running around and they get hurt somehow and get a lil scratch and go crying to thier parents over a lil scratch. My uncles and aunts (thier parents) always say "Oh back in the day if I went crying to my dad or mom over a scratch I would get a smack over the head and they would tell me to go back outside and to never come back in till it's all dark!" and or instead of a smack on the head they would get a spankin with a belt. However some of my other uncles and aunts treat thier children like lil babies! (and thier not  babies) So I was wondering how you guys would treat your children? The Old Skool way, or the Baby way? And please say why.

 

[Suspect-Device]

When I sliced open my hand, I had to sit in the front room for about an hour before my dad was ready to drive me to hospital.

 

[Bruhlan Revan]

Lol yep, I crashed while riding my dirtbike and my shoulder poped out and I had a huge cut in my leg. They just told me to put some water on it and to pop back in my shoulder lol.

 

[Shatari]

Personally, I'd go the middle ground. If it's bad enough to cause permanent injury, then it should be dealt with. Otherwise they can bloody well cry outside. Kids forget minor injuries quickly if no one pays attention to them, and it encourages a higher pain threshold.

 

[Lord Leoric of Wercheg]

Yeah. I don't get why people get worried by small cuts and scrapes. I wounded my head and I wasn't even stitched.

 

[Kobrag]

Ouch.

I do smack me kids, but nothing harder than my hand. I do hug them aftrwards, they are only young, 4 and 5. If they hurt themselves after doing something stupid I let that pain be the lesson,unless its serious, in which I would not be so lenient.

 

[Bruhlan Revan]

In my opinion I think that if you can handle pain it makes a better person. (Not really sure if "better" was the right word to use)  (Gonna start usin that smily thing instead of lloll'ing!) 

 

[Kobrag]

Growing up in a british state school is tough, so we get used to it earlier than most.

My kids go it infant school in september, I am kinda worried for them. Their english isn't to good and they look intimidating for 4/5 year olds.

 

[Lord Leoric of Wercheg]

In my opinion I think that if you can handle pain it makes a better person. (Not really sure if "better" was the right word to use)  (Gonna start usin that smily thing instead of lloll'ing!) 

Three smileys per post is usually the best. Cleaning Agent's Locke-sandwich theory is an exception though. 

 

[Tibertus]

In my opinion I think that if you can handle pain it makes a better person. (Not really sure if "better" was the right word to use)  (Gonna start usin that smily thing instead of lloll'ing!) 

Three smileys per post is usually the best. Cleaning Agent's Locke-sandwich theory is an exception though. 

My family is like one of those old school immigrant families. I got beat with the belt for doing stupid stuff, never knew what a timeout was, and my grandma's wooden spoon was something to be feared.

Anyways, HAbasta, I believe the term your looking for is character. A higher pain threshold helps build character. Might not necessarily help you be a "good" person, but it will help you stand up for yourself. Also, something I've seen that I can't seem to logically link is that kids who had harsher discipline often are more assertive and confident. Some people think harsher punishment kills self image, I however, haven't necessarily seen that. 

 

[Archonsod]

Good external discipline encourages strong self discipline.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

You guys sound like you're across the research.

 

[Swadius 2.0]

BEAT YOUR KIDS!

 

[Rabid Potatoe]

 

[touareg]

Children need a certain amount discipline, but not by beating or putting them under mental strain. If you can't handle it with words, you failed as a parent, or your child is in fact too disturbed to deal with, better get help from a psychotherapist.

When beating you are achieving discipline and rules only by force. Not by reason and understanding. You don't make the child understand the reason. The only reason you give is "it is right because he is stronger".
If people think of themselves as humans, that differ from other animals by their highly evolved reasoning powers, why use a rule of monkeys?

People telling "I was beaten as a kid and in the end it helped me, I am all right and I give my kids a slap sometimes" are often the most disordered or mentally weak persons.

 

[italiano]

Old school. It worked for thousands of years, why do these modern moron bleeding hearts think they can do better? "Reason with your child" - yeah I'll reason with them - with my right hand slapping their arse.

Better not tap your kid in public though, you'll soon have witnesses who will suggest that you flogged them half to death.

 

[touareg]

Actually I'd like to know what age certain members are.

 

[Sushiman70]

Like???

 

[Archonsod]

Children need a certain amount discipline, but not by beating or putting them under mental strain. If you can't handle it with words, you failed as a parent, or your child is in fact too disturbed to deal with, better get help from a psychotherapist.

**** that hippy ****. If the kid can't handle violence, it's failed as a viable organism. If that method worked, then perhaps you could explain why juvenile crime et al has risen since the emergence of the anti-physical punishment brigade, particularly when compared to countries where physical discipline is still utilised in schools.

When beating you are achieving discipline and rules only by force. Not by reason and understanding. You don't make the child understand the reason. The only reason you give is "it is right because he is stronger".

Funnily enough, I've yet to meet a child capable of philosophical reasoning, or for that matter rationality and logic. Possibly because those areas of the brain don't fully develop until the teenage years.
Though they're never too young to learn the fundamental basics. Might = Right, nothing is ever going to change that.

If people think of themselves as humans, that differ from other animals by their highly evolved reasoning powers, why use a rule of monkeys?

We're apes, not monkeys, and it's ignorance of this basic fact which sends society down the ****ter.

People telling "I was beaten as a kid and in the end it helped me, I am all right and I give my kids a slap sometimes" are often the most disordered or mentally weak persons.

Proof? Evidence? Pull it out of your arse?

Better not tap your kid in public though, you'll soon have witnesses who will suggest that you flogged them half to death.

Difference is, while they merely suggest, I'm more than happy to implement

Actually, funniest thing I ever saw was some woman shouting at a guy who slapped his kid in the local supermarket car park. She yelled at him for a minute about how he should reason with his kid. The kid meanwhile wandered around behind her, whipped his **** out and pissed in her shopping bags. She kinda changed her mind on the issue after that

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Don't be silly, Arch, you'll derail another thread.

Old school. It worked for thousands of years, why do these modern moron bleeding hearts think they can do better? "Reason with your child" - yeah I'll reason with them - with my right hand slapping their arse.

Better not tap your kid in public though, you'll soon have witnesses who will suggest that you flogged them half to death.

Bleeding heart haha. I was just thinking about that term today.

In fact touareg is right as far as I know (from research). Except maybe the line about mental disturbances. I might look this up.