@Devs: server handling needs improvement

[DJPenguin]

Running a server for this game is, simply put, frustrating.

Firstly, I can't even use the admin panel without resetting my server's player count to 8, down from 20. So the only thing i can do admin wise is kick and ban players without screwing up the server text file.
God forbid something happens where a map change is required like the AI getting stuck in a part of the map that people can't reach and people are too stupid not to pass a map vote on their own, cause i can't do anything about it.

Second, some of the server text file lines are gibberish. There were times when i was trying to remove maps that were on the rotation but weren't found in the text file. Instead i had to do trial and error's, removing every map one by one to see which gibberish line was the map i was looking for. Vyborg for instance, why it's in a co-op server's rotation is beyond me but it's not even listed as vyborg in the text file.

Third, something needs to be done about vote kicking. The one time i went into my server with 2 people playing, and they vote kicked me. The vote passed but nothing happened, so in turn i gave them a good banning. God knows how long they were in my server doing this. I'm not paying 20 dollars a month for two people to claim my server for themselves. I want an option at the least that disables voting unless there's a certain amount of people on the server so this **** doesn't happen.



Until these issues are addressed (and i get the interest again), i can't justify keeping the server up. I'm only doing you guys a favor by forking over the money to keep a high pop co-op server which is in considerable demand and greatly enjoyed by the community. I don't need to be doing this, especially since i barely play anymore.

 

[republicansamurai]

I'm sad to hear you will be closing your server  we had a lot of fun together, but of course i agree with whatever you decide
thank you for hosting it for as long as you did though 

-Marquis de Lafayette

 

[Baron Conrad]

1. I am pretty sure you can turn off vote kick (you could in Warband).

2. Captain co-op isn't supposed to allow you to have more than 8 humans, if you really want it to work with more you have to figure out the module system and change the way the mode works. (If that's possible).

 

[DJPenguin]

if i turn off vote kick then what will people do when there's someone in the server who has a legit reason to be kicked? there are more afk's in this game than I'd like there to be and having as much as 1 or 2 people being useless can increase the difficulty substantially, depending on the wave.

and as far as i know the module for WF&S is practically non-existent.

 

[Baron Conrad]

if i turn off vote kick then what will people do when there's someone in the server who has a legit reason to be kicked? there are more afk's in this game than I'd like there to be and having as much as 1 or 2 people being useless can increase the difficulty substantially, depending on the wave.

Well there is no way for the game to know if the people are just mean or if they are legitimately trying to kick a cheater/other unwanted person.

and as far as i know the module for WF&S is practically non-existent.

It exists just as much as the Warband one does, I have downloaded and used it.

 

[Majestic7]

Kicking is practically useless anyway. Nothing prevents the griefer from just reconnecting to the game immediately; even if the griefer is kicked constantly, it only provides little inconvenience. Since they are attention deficient kids who seek attention, it kind of provides him what he wants. Banning is the only thing to do really. (Of course, letting players vote ban would lead to abuse, just commenting on necessity of kicking.)

 

[Maxim Suvorov]

if i turn off vote kick then what will people do when there's someone in the server who has a legit reason to be kicked? there are more afk's in this game than I'd like there to be and having as much as 1 or 2 people being useless can increase the difficulty substantially, depending on the wave.

and as far as i know the module for WF&S is practically non-existent.

Hi,

1. Module sustem is here:

http://download2.taleworlds.com/mb_wfas_module_system_1143.zip

2. If you want to configure more commands check out the file "Readme.txt" All of availible commands ARE LISTED there. 

3. Administration is the most difficult part for WFaS servers... Probably some additions from Warband modded server files like "autoban"/"autokick" could help... 

PS: I don't belive that modders coudn't simply in-merge some scripts into WFaS code... 

 

[ExplodingCabbage]

There isn't much to be done about votekicking because the actual playing community for F&S (though not the forum community as far as I've seen, not that I come here much) is 90% made up of arseholes and idiots (there's a handful of good people though).

I've lost count of the number of times I've failed to get someone kicked, despite clearly explaining in chat why I was starting the poll in advance of doing so, for TKing, being long-term AFK, or just generally being a **** and insulting everyone they kill / calling people with black-sounding names or black character models dirty niggers / calling Polish people dirty Pole-niggers (a term I never heard before playing With Fire and Sword but seems to be a pretty standard insult for Polish people in the WFaS community), only to get kicked myself for 'spamming' or being a horse archer (when playing Crimean Khanate) or cheating/hacking, or just kicked when at the top of the leaderboard for no reason without anybody being prepared to say a word in chat. It doesn't matter what percentage you require for polls to pass, or what minimum number of players you require for kick polls to be allowed; with a community this bad, they're still not going to get used for the things they should be used for, and get abused by the arseholes who make up most of the playing community.

 

[Maxim Suvorov]

2ExplodingCabbage

The best way to prevent such things - is public election  moderators for servers which could perm ban players. It helped for "Ru" zone quite well.

 

[Majestic7]

I haven't encountered anything as bad as ExplodingCabbage. I mainly play big sieges (Westre and some random other servers). Regardless, I've been surprised by the amount of dicks. I didn't expect game like this, with the historical theme and all, to attract that kind of scum. Numbers are pretty low anyway; there are a handful of griefers and maybe half a dozen cheaters who use glitches to their advantage. Stuff like hiding inside walls etc. Glitch cheaters are just pathetic, but the griefers should really get permbans. I prefer playing with FF since it changes the dynamics of the fight. Unfortunately FF is off on big servers, mostly due to griefers I presume.