[Development] - Signatures / Loading & Event Screens / Laws icons (pg7)
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Mordachai
Squire
Ok, ok, so you give em an inch, and they want a mile!
lol - so, my mile would be all of the above images with a nightime shot...
Can be with the same images you've already used - just apply something to them to make it appear dark out.
I can even change the color of the menu text to be white or something light colored so that the whole background itself is darker.
One of the things that is true is when you come to a town/village/castle, some things aren't available at night, and your chances of being accosted are greater (but your chances of sneaking in are also better).... as a player, I rarely notice what time of day its supposed to be. If the menu reflected time of day, (just night vs. day), then it'd be an instantaneous in my face indication to help clue me in to the situation.
Give one a try - and I'll plop it in there and see what it looks like! But basically, assume that the background should be "night-ish" - dark.. rather than the light-brown, more like a deep rich mahogany or near-black (we'd have to see em to see what looks better).
lol - so, my mile would be all of the above images with a nightime shot...
Can be with the same images you've already used - just apply something to them to make it appear dark out.
I can even change the color of the menu text to be white or something light colored so that the whole background itself is darker.
One of the things that is true is when you come to a town/village/castle, some things aren't available at night, and your chances of being accosted are greater (but your chances of sneaking in are also better).... as a player, I rarely notice what time of day its supposed to be. If the menu reflected time of day, (just night vs. day), then it'd be an instantaneous in my face indication to help clue me in to the situation.
Give one a try - and I'll plop it in there and see what it looks like! But basically, assume that the background should be "night-ish" - dark.. rather than the light-brown, more like a deep rich mahogany or near-black (we'd have to see em to see what looks better).
Shjn
Knight at Arms
Castle preview
@Mordachai
So basically, when you enter a place, you will be able to tell whether is daytime or night, let's just skip the particular time of dawn/dusk which can be roughly assimilated to daytime, otherwise, we have snow, rain, cloud, fog. The multiplier for one single place would be quite numerous.
I'll only then post couple of selected scenes along the way to keep people tracked about the progress, as we talk about a total of 58 towns/castles daytime/nighttime outside/inside = 58x4 = 232 individualized background meshes,
and there are others to be on the pipeline
Ok, let's carry on to make this unique and exclusive to SoD
Edit: the nighttime image will need to be done separately, the artificial rendering will not be able to reproduce a real nighttime effect. then the text color change to white is mandatory as you would imagine
@Mordachai
So basically, when you enter a place, you will be able to tell whether is daytime or night, let's just skip the particular time of dawn/dusk which can be roughly assimilated to daytime, otherwise, we have snow, rain, cloud, fog. The multiplier for one single place would be quite numerous.
I'll only then post couple of selected scenes along the way to keep people tracked about the progress, as we talk about a total of 58 towns/castles daytime/nighttime outside/inside = 58x4 = 232 individualized background meshes,
and there are others to be on the pipeline
Ok, let's carry on to make this unique and exclusive to SoD
Edit: the nighttime image will need to be done separately, the artificial rendering will not be able to reproduce a real nighttime effect. then the text color change to white is mandatory as you would imagine
jasonxfri13th
Sergeant Knight
Wow, thats a lot of pictures, and they all look really good so far.
Mordachai
Squire
I really like some of the nighttime ones!
I wonder - I assume you're pre-merging your image with that of the paper?
Maybe we should leave that until the BRF stage, and thence we can play around with different "paper" and affect all of the images at once?
I don't want you to redo anything!!! This is just a thought I'm throwing out because I don't know the implications, but I wanted you to think about them. Please don't feel like I am asking for anything different. But I would like your input on that 1/2 thought?
I wonder - I assume you're pre-merging your image with that of the paper?
Maybe we should leave that until the BRF stage, and thence we can play around with different "paper" and affect all of the images at once?
I don't want you to redo anything!!! This is just a thought I'm throwing out because I don't know the implications, but I wanted you to think about them. Please don't feel like I am asking for anything different. But I would like your input on that 1/2 thought?
Shjn
Knight at Arms
The screen shots are done in the standard way, nothing particular
The post treatment in photoshop, in summary, is first to use the bg2.dds as the working and merging background, on top will be placed one a time the raw screen image, adjust filter/blend/overlay things, and obtain the faded tone in the color range of bg2.dds.
If you talk about creating a filter within BRF which I don't think would be feasible. And despite the process described above, the tweaking parameter will not always stay the same, for time a scene with more white area covered or not would make the parameters changed according to my judging.
And no worry, the post processing is not the most time consuming one, it's more the screen shot, which is trying to find the good spot, get the desired weather/time condition for light/shadow effect and other composition thing. (and travel from one castle to another, not get caught by bandits, yes, I kick out everyone to maximize the on map traveling speed)
Please feel free to explore with BRF. I can still in parallel pursue my screens snapping, as they are the primary required materials, prior to any post processing means.
The post treatment in photoshop, in summary, is first to use the bg2.dds as the working and merging background, on top will be placed one a time the raw screen image, adjust filter/blend/overlay things, and obtain the faded tone in the color range of bg2.dds.
If you talk about creating a filter within BRF which I don't think would be feasible. And despite the process described above, the tweaking parameter will not always stay the same, for time a scene with more white area covered or not would make the parameters changed according to my judging.
And no worry, the post processing is not the most time consuming one, it's more the screen shot, which is trying to find the good spot, get the desired weather/time condition for light/shadow effect and other composition thing. (and travel from one castle to another, not get caught by bandits, yes, I kick out everyone to maximize the on map traveling speed
)Please feel free to explore with BRF. I can still in parallel pursue my screens snapping, as they are the primary required materials, prior to any post processing means.
HokieBT
Grandmaster Knight
Shjn, awesome work, we're doing something similar for Star Wars Calradia (although not going quite to the detail you did). One small comments is that I think bg2.dds will always be in the background, so you might be able to just save these as a 30% transparency (or something like that), they would automatically get overlayed, and then if you ever wanted to switch the background you could. anyway, these are very impressive!
One small comments is that I think bg2.dds will always be in the background, so you might be able to just save these as a 30% transparency (or something like that), they would automatically get overlayed, and then if you ever wanted to switch the background you could. anyway, these are very impressive!
Shjn
Knight at Arms
@SPQR, @HokieBT
Many thanks
Great to have modding veterans' feedback
@HokieBT
Thanks for the tip, it would be very useful for the automated fading/washing out effect on the background
The samples that you see (all treatment has been carried prior by photoshop), and the transparent effect is using diffenret light filter according to either day or night situation, plus minor tweak if the scene screen shot has more or less white area, hence the automated option will probably be less visually attractive.
Many thanks
Great to have modding veterans' feedback
@HokieBT
Thanks for the tip, it would be very useful for the automated fading/washing out effect on the background
The samples that you see (all treatment has been carried prior by photoshop), and the transparent effect is using diffenret light filter according to either day or night situation, plus minor tweak if the scene screen shot has more or less white area, hence the automated option will probably be less visually attractive.
Seriously If I won't see those in the next official release of MnB I will be very surprised.
P.S. I put all of those pictures in spoilers so it's easier to browse the page.
P.S. I put all of those pictures in spoilers so it's easier to browse the page.
Shjin's Galery of Art
Strategic Map
Skin for Jed Q Companion Overview
Calradia Towns
Castles
Various Loading Screens
Loading Screens
Sword of Damocles Signatures
Signatures
Strategic Map
Skin for Jed Q Companion Overview
Calradia Towns
Castles
Various Loading Screens
Loading Screens
Sword of Damocles Signatures
Signatures
HokieBT
Grandmaster Knight
vonmistont 说:
yeah, you should sent the devs a PM about these. at the minimum you guys may want to think about an OSP Pack or stand-alone Native Add-on, they are that impressive! I had always wanted to do an OSP module system or native release, where we integrate stuff like this, autoloot, shield bash, color coded messages, troop ratio bar, the duel kits, etc, but just haven't had the time to try and integrate everything.....
Mordachai
Squire
Same problem here - time.HokieBT 说:yeah, you should sent the devs a PM about these. at the minimum you guys may want to think about an OSP Pack or stand-alone Native Add-on, they are that impressive! I had always wanted to do an OSP module system or native release, where we integrate stuff like this, autoloot, shield bash, color coded messages, troop ratio bar, the duel kits, etc, but just haven't had the time to try and integrate everything.....
Also there is the fact that at this point I have heavily modified various parts of the original code. They had terrible lack of consistency in their formatting, and tons of unused code lying about, making a clutter of things.
So to make this a kit... well, I think the more practical approach will be to publish the ms code for the entire thing when we're at a stable point, and keep doing so (with various author's permissions). Then folks can use it as the basis to do what they want (strip out the invasion (trivial: set the timer to never). Or whatever.. But making this into a simple kit I think is not worth the effort, nor would it produce the results folks really wanted.
What I may be able to do is to include links to the various kits I've integrated. And we can hunt down some of the ones that VonMistont included as well - so that folks can individually get those kits, on a piecemeal basis.
