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[parsehtml]<p><img class="frame" src="http://www.taleworlds.com/Images/News/blog_post_18_taleworldswebsite_575.jpg" alt="" width="575" height="290" /></p> <p>They came from overseas, mercenaries and adventurers, speaking the tongues of many lands, taking the empire's silver to guard the frontiers against the unsubdued tribes of the interior. They took their name from one of their first warlords, Wilund the Bold - Valandion, in Calradic - and became known as the Vlandians. Their heavy cavalry, second to none, ran down the Emperor's foes from the Aserai wastes to the distant steppes. But the empire never had as much silver as it needed, and treasury officials soon learned that it could pay its mercenaries with land grants and titles. This was perhaps not the most far-sighted of policies. The Vlandians settled, married, planted farms, and built fortresses. It was not difficult, during the recent interregnum, for Osrac Iron-arm to declare himself king, independent in all but name. He seized the imperial capital of Baravenos and the lands along the coast, and that was how the west was lost to the empire.</p></br> [/parsehtml]Read more at: http://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/37
 
sermen said:
When it comes to couched lance attack you should definitely include breaking the lance after the charge. It will add realism and common sense and balance the weapon - deadly, nearly guaranteeing a kill if properly used - but also disposable. It has been done in many Warband mods and it worked great.

I greet players and developers and I wish you successful work on the game  :wink:
Błażej Seremak

This was a feature in the mod ACOK, which I really enjoyed. It was great because it forced the player to choose his cavalry charge at the correct moment on order to maximise effect, then the cavalry would fight with their backup weapon whether that's a sword or mace.
I don't think the devs will put this feature in though, however I can imagine modders creating this, so there's that hope.
 
M.ArdA said:
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I beg the developers to eliminate the 'ring armour' that is used on this shoulder thing. The nearest crossbowman is heavily armoured already, with mail and what appears to be a coat of plates (not an armour I've ever found visually appealing, and possibly a bit late compared to the general time frame influencing Bannerlord armour etc, but it's at least a real thing), yet he also has draped over his shoulders an armour that probably never existed and that makes no sense. Even those who doggedly believe in its existence must surely concede that it is an inferior and crude form of defence to armours such as mail and a coat of plates, so even if it were real it would make no sense for a society that had the skills and tools to create good armour to create any such 'ring armour'. It is ugly and nonsensical for this soldier to use, quite apart from it almost certainly having never existed.

For those who aren't aware, 'ring armour' is believed by a few people to have existed because of a few medieval illustrations showing large circular things covering a soldier's clothing. However, they are believed by most people to be simply cruder than average representations of chainmail.
 
sermen said:
breaking the lance after the charge

many mods used this as a trick to force the AI to change weapons, as the lance was a horrible weapon for combat (after the charge). Hopefully Bannerlord AI will already know when to drop it and use a sword instead, or be better at using it as spear (if not too long).
 
kalarhan said:
sermen said:
breaking the lance after the charge

many mods used this as a trick to force the AI to change weapons, as the lance was a horrible weapon for combat (after the charge). Hopefully Bannerlord AI will already know when to drop it and use a sword instead, or be better at using it as spear (if not too long).

I hope the same.  Even in Warband a modder managed to make an OSP script that made cavalry switch from their lances, although it didn't worked properly all the time.
 
FBohler said:
And talking about realism, what about perma death, need to sleep/piss/take a dump, common diseases killing your party, fatigue system, realistic time passage at the overworld, being backstabbed while sleeping, and so on...

Oh, these requests aren't any fun? No problem, because all we need is an ultra realistic looking game with OP "calvary"...

Maybe you'll get your combat choppers when M&B: Modern Warfare comes out, maybe our great grand children will enjoy this game  :lol:

The gme literally is not out yet, spears are improved, we have combo attacks and sheet and they are buffing light calvary and you are *****ing about OP calvary without even playing the game yet?

Give me a break.
 
DanAngleland said:
M.ArdA said:

I beg the developers to eliminate the 'ring armour' that is used on this shoulder thing. The nearest crossbowman is heavily armoured already, with mail and what appears to be a coat of plates (not an armour I've ever found visually appealing, and possibly a bit late compared to the general time frame influencing Bannerlord armour etc, but it's at least a real thing), yet he also has draped over his shoulders an armour that probably never existed and that makes no sense. Even those who doggedly believe in its existence must surely concede that it is an inferior and crude form of defence to armours such as mail and a coat of plates, so even if it were real it would make no sense for a society that had the skills and tools to create good armour to create any such 'ring armour'. It is ugly and nonsensical for this soldier to use, quite apart from it almost certainly having never existed.

For those who aren't aware, 'ring armour' is believed by a few people to have existed because of a few medieval illustrations showing large circular things covering a soldier's clothing. However, they are believed by most people to be simply cruder than average representations of chainmail.
It's not unrealistic to think someone would sew metal rings on the leather for added protection and the example given here isn't as extreme as the pictures you're talking about, which indeed could just crudely show mail.
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one above obviously isn't within our time scope or cultural border, of course, but it shows that it isn't unreasonable to think someone would use such thing. It does look silly on otherwise well (maybe even too well) armoured Vlandian soldier, but I sure wouldn't like them to remove it from the game entirely.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that it's the same piece of equipment which caused same controversy in some of the early WIP screenshots :grin:
 
Do not look here said:
It's not unrealistic to think someone would sew metal rings on the leather for added protection

metal rings, looking weird or not, would be a cheap upgrade for slashing damage.

on the game it would fit well for troops like crossbow units, as they shouldn't have top tier armour.
 
DanAngleland said:
M.ArdA said:

I beg the developers to eliminate the 'ring armour' that is used on this shoulder thing. The nearest crossbowman is heavily armoured already, with mail and what appears to be a coat of plates (not an armour I've ever found visually appealing, and possibly a bit late compared to the general time frame influencing Bannerlord armour etc, but it's at least a real thing), yet he also has draped over his shoulders an armour that probably never existed and that makes no sense. Even those who doggedly believe in its existence must surely concede that it is an inferior and crude form of defence to armours such as mail and a coat of plates, so even if it were real it would make no sense for a society that had the skills and tools to create good armour to create any such 'ring armour'. It is ugly and nonsensical for this soldier to use, quite apart from it almost certainly having never existed.

For those who aren't aware, 'ring armour' is believed by a few people to have existed because of a few medieval illustrations showing large circular things covering a soldier's clothing. However, they are believed by most people to be simply cruder than average representations of chainmail.

Maybe ring-armour was a pioneering technology in 11th century Calradia, but all primary sources have worn away with time leaving no archeological evidence.
 
578 said:
Go play Kingdom come deliverance if you want a realistic game. I want a fun game, not Sims: Medieval edition. Also cavalry has been adjusted already.

Finally someone got my point. I'm just making fun of some entitled people here...
By the way, you're spelling it wrong, it's "caLvary", not cavalry!  :lol:
 
FBohler said:
578 said:
Go play Kingdom come deliverance if you want a realistic game. I want a fun game, not Sims: Medieval edition. Also cavalry has been adjusted already.

Finally someone got my point. I'm just making fun of some entitled people here...
By the way, you're spelling it wrong, it's "caLvary", not cavalry!  :lol:


All jokes aside, there are RP servers that actually implement hunger/thirst and other features like these. I dont know how these people cope with their depression.
 
Kortze26 said:
I apologize for the lateness of this post, but I wanted to throw a few videos into the thread about the history of the Rus as a culture and as a nation.  Enjoy!
TEDed animated https://youtu.be/lfe1wEQzSzM
The Varangian Rus: part 1 https://youtu.be/X4_r-IySNKM, part 2 https://youtu.be/E6T9zVFhxkE, part 3 https://youtu.be/C06pP0rCvMs
Sorry, but it's not serious.
 
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
I apologize for the lateness of this post, but I wanted to throw a few videos into the thread about the history of the Rus as a culture and as a nation.  Enjoy!
TEDed animated https://youtu.be/lfe1wEQzSzM
The Varangian Rus: part 1 https://youtu.be/X4_r-IySNKM, part 2 https://youtu.be/E6T9zVFhxkE, part 3 https://youtu.be/C06pP0rCvMs
Sorry, but it's not serious.

So, then explain, with some archaeological support, what you "believe" about the origins of the Rus.  Don't just point fingers or say something is a lie because it's not the narrative you were raised with.
 
Kortze26 said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
I apologize for the lateness of this post, but I wanted to throw a few videos into the thread about the history of the Rus as a culture and as a nation.  Enjoy!
TEDed animated https://youtu.be/lfe1wEQzSzM
The Varangian Rus: part 1 https://youtu.be/X4_r-IySNKM, part 2 https://youtu.be/E6T9zVFhxkE, part 3 https://youtu.be/C06pP0rCvMs
Sorry, but it's not serious.

So, then explain, with some archaeological support, what you "believe" about the origins of the Rus.  Don't just point fingers or say something is a lie because it's not the narrative you were raised with.
Kortze26, you show the cartoon in which the Norman theory is shown. And after that you want me to prove something to you. Your argument is a cartoon?
Above I spoke at least about three theories. If this is really interesting for you, search for documents, research scientists, but not cartoons.
Only in this case it will not give you much. After all, these are theories and each of them has its own shortcomings and weaknesses.
However, one benefit will be - you will get acquainted with the story not for cartoons. but according to the real research of scientists.
I wish you successful searches and interesting artifacts.
 
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
I apologize for the lateness of this post, but I wanted to throw a few videos into the thread about the history of the Rus as a culture and as a nation.  Enjoy!
TEDed animated https://youtu.be/lfe1wEQzSzM
The Varangian Rus: part 1 https://youtu.be/X4_r-IySNKM, part 2 https://youtu.be/E6T9zVFhxkE, part 3 https://youtu.be/C06pP0rCvMs
Sorry, but it's not serious.

So, then explain, with some archaeological support, what you "believe" about the origins of the Rus.  Don't just point fingers or say something is a lie because it's not the narrative you were raised with.
Kortze26, you show the cartoon in which the Norman theory is shown. And after that you want me to prove something to you. Your argument is a cartoon?
Above I spoke at least about three theories. If this is really interesting for you, search for documents, research scientists, but not cartoons.
Only in this case it will not give you much. After all, these are theories and each of them has its own shortcomings and weaknesses.
However, one benefit will be - you will get acquainted with the story not for cartoons. but according to the real research of scientists.
I wish you successful searches and interesting artifacts.

Well ignoring that video, you have wrongly argued against me. You keep saying I describe the Normanist theory, when I haven’t described it. The normanist theory is that Rus were fully Varangian/scandinavian. I’m saying that the Rus were Slavic, but often there were Varangian rulers. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Again the Russian and Ukrainian historians are heavily biased because they don’t want anyone saying they weren’t Slavic in origin.
 
AmateurHetman said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
I apologize for the lateness of this post, but I wanted to throw a few videos into the thread about the history of the Rus as a culture and as a nation.  Enjoy!
TEDed animated https://youtu.be/lfe1wEQzSzM
The Varangian Rus: part 1 https://youtu.be/X4_r-IySNKM, part 2 https://youtu.be/E6T9zVFhxkE, part 3 https://youtu.be/C06pP0rCvMs
Sorry, but it's not serious.

So, then explain, with some archaeological support, what you "believe" about the origins of the Rus.  Don't just point fingers or say something is a lie because it's not the narrative you were raised with.
Kortze26, you show the cartoon in which the Norman theory is shown. And after that you want me to prove something to you. Your argument is a cartoon?
Above I spoke at least about three theories. If this is really interesting for you, search for documents, research scientists, but not cartoons.
Only in this case it will not give you much. After all, these are theories and each of them has its own shortcomings and weaknesses.
However, one benefit will be - you will get acquainted with the story not for cartoons. but according to the real research of scientists.
I wish you successful searches and interesting artifacts.

Well ignoring that video, you have wrongly argued against me. You keep saying I describe the Normanist theory, when I haven’t described it. The normanist theory is that Rus were fully Varangian/scandinavian. I’m saying that the Rus were Slavic, but often there were Varangian rulers. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Again the Russian and Ukrainian historians are heavily biased because they don’t want anyone saying they weren’t Slavic in origin.
Why did you decide that I'm arguing with you? Where do I mention you? 

As for the theory.
Norman theory just says that the supposedly Slavs were ruled by the Normans (Vikings). What is wrong I said?
But, frankly, I see no reason to develop this conversation.
On the Internet, there are many sources (not cartoons) explaining what the Norman theory is. Read them. I say this without any sarcasm.
 
Yaga said:
AmateurHetman said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
I apologize for the lateness of this post, but I wanted to throw a few videos into the thread about the history of the Rus as a culture and as a nation.  Enjoy!
TEDed animated https://youtu.be/lfe1wEQzSzM
The Varangian Rus: part 1 https://youtu.be/X4_r-IySNKM, part 2 https://youtu.be/E6T9zVFhxkE, part 3 https://youtu.be/C06pP0rCvMs
Sorry, but it's not serious.

So, then explain, with some archaeological support, what you "believe" about the origins of the Rus.  Don't just point fingers or say something is a lie because it's not the narrative you were raised with.
Kortze26, you show the cartoon in which the Norman theory is shown. And after that you want me to prove something to you. Your argument is a cartoon?
Above I spoke at least about three theories. If this is really interesting for you, search for documents, research scientists, but not cartoons.
Only in this case it will not give you much. After all, these are theories and each of them has its own shortcomings and weaknesses.
However, one benefit will be - you will get acquainted with the story not for cartoons. but according to the real research of scientists.
I wish you successful searches and interesting artifacts.

Well ignoring that video, you have wrongly argued against me. You keep saying I describe the Normanist theory, when I haven’t described it. The normanist theory is that Rus were fully Varangian/scandinavian. I’m saying that the Rus were Slavic, but often there were Varangian rulers. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Again the Russian and Ukrainian historians are heavily biased because they don’t want anyone saying they weren’t Slavic in origin.
Why did you decide that I'm arguing with you? Where do I mention you? 

As for the theory.
Norman theory just says that the supposedly Slavs were ruled by the Normans (Vikings). What is wrong I said?
But, frankly, I see no reason to develop this conversation.
On the Internet, there are many sources (not cartoons) explaining what the Norman theory is. Read them. I say this without any sarcasm.
Yaga: Master of Trees, Hater of Cartoons as devices for disseminating information.  Did you actually watch the other documentary?  How do you even know what was said if you don't speak or understand English? 
 
Yaga said:
On the Internet, there are many sources (not cartoons) explaining what the Norman theory is. Read them. I say this without any sarcasm.

if you want to argue about research on the Internet you should look up what TED is. You keep calling it a cartoon for some reason. That format was used for presentation, it does not dimish the value of the information presented. You don't expect normal people to read a article, right?
--> not all of TED videos are a great/reliable source of information, but they tend to be pretty good.
---> I am not saying the video is accurate or that is not accurate. That is not the point of this post. This post has nothing to do with the correctness of that video. This post does not represent in any form, shape or colour the opinion of the author on the matter  :razz:
 
Yaga said:
AmateurHetman said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
Yaga said:
Kortze26 said:
I apologize for the lateness of this post, but I wanted to throw a few videos into the thread about the history of the Rus as a culture and as a nation.  Enjoy!
TEDed animated https://youtu.be/lfe1wEQzSzM
The Varangian Rus: part 1 https://youtu.be/X4_r-IySNKM, part 2 https://youtu.be/E6T9zVFhxkE, part 3 https://youtu.be/C06pP0rCvMs
Sorry, but it's not serious.

So, then explain, with some archaeological support, what you "believe" about the origins of the Rus.  Don't just point fingers or say something is a lie because it's not the narrative you were raised with.
Kortze26, you show the cartoon in which the Norman theory is shown. And after that you want me to prove something to you. Your argument is a cartoon?
Above I spoke at least about three theories. If this is really interesting for you, search for documents, research scientists, but not cartoons.
Only in this case it will not give you much. After all, these are theories and each of them has its own shortcomings and weaknesses.
However, one benefit will be - you will get acquainted with the story not for cartoons. but according to the real research of scientists.
I wish you successful searches and interesting artifacts.

Well ignoring that video, you have wrongly argued against me. You keep saying I describe the Normanist theory, when I haven’t described it. The normanist theory is that Rus were fully Varangian/scandinavian. I’m saying that the Rus were Slavic, but often there were Varangian rulers. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Again the Russian and Ukrainian historians are heavily biased because they don’t want anyone saying they weren’t Slavic in origin.
Why did you decide that I'm arguing with you? Where do I mention you? 

As for the theory.
Norman theory just says that the supposedly Slavs were ruled by the Normans (Vikings). What is wrong I said?
But, frankly, I see no reason to develop this conversation.
On the Internet, there are many sources (not cartoons) explaining what the Norman theory is. Read them. I say this without any sarcasm.

I must actually apologise in this case, I mistook you for the other forumite who argued against me. You did reply to me earlier but not in heated debate.
 
kalarhan said:
---> I am not saying the video is accurate or that is not accurate. That is not the point of this post. This post has nothing to do with the correctness of that video. This post does not represent in any form, shape or colour the opinion of the author on the matter  :razz:

I expect a signature and a confirmation from your lawyer on this.
 
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