Detecting autoblockers

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If she is/was hacking (which is extremely unlikely imo) she was a pro chamberer, kicker, and blocker... So I guess she was some computer genius and hacked every aspect of Warband...

Also I killed her several times just by outlasting a little longer but not often at all

@ Her story... She told me that shes been around a very long time training with all kinds of different alts one of them being "Native" for she was playing under it when I recruited her into KoA and Hayley was the first name that she ever stuck with
 
John7 说:
If she is/was hacking (which is extremely unlikely imo) she was a pro chamberer, kicker, and blocker... So I guess she was some computer genius and hacked every aspect of Warband...

Also I killed her several times just by outlasting a little longer but not often at all

@ Her story... She told me that shes been around a very long time training with all kinds of different alts one of them being "Native" for she was playing under it when I recruited her into KoA and Hayley was the first name that she ever stuck with

When someone's that good, people would know who the alts were quickly imo.

Honestly though, you're really not ever going to let go of the hope that Hayley was legit because you guys are in the same clan. Most of the people who have no real interest either way are probably going to be a little more fair in judgment.
 
Seriously though

She hacked Kicking, Chambering, Good timing, Blocking and Fienting?... Highly unlikely...

She must have went to Game Hacking Academy and graduated at the top of her class -_-
 
John7 说:
Seriously though

She hacked Kicking, Chambering, Good timing, Blocking and Fienting?... Highly unlikely...

She must have went to Game Hacking Academy and graduated at the top of her class -_-

I heard there was an earlier version of the block hack, that allowed people to have chambers on a toggle. You could switch it on and you would chamber on command along with angelic blocking ability.

John I am not saying for a fact I know she hacked but what I am saying is the evidence is against her.
 
TheRealLeonidas 说:
John7 说:
Seriously though

She hacked Kicking, Chambering, Good timing, Blocking and Fienting?... Highly unlikely...

She must have went to Game Hacking Academy and graduated at the top of her class -_-

I heard there was an earlier version of the block hack, that allowed people to have chambers on a toggle. You could switch it on and you would chamber on command along with angelic blocking ability.

John I am not saying for a fact I know she hacked but what I am saying is the evidence is against her.
Apparently, Hayley comes from an old mod for star wars jedi academy with 7 attack/block directions and a bunch of other crazy stuff, so these 4 simple/slow directions are easy for her. Still, she NEVER misses a block, ever, but one thing that I find odd is that she doesn't fall for feints, she just happens to block them when they pop up. And it obviously can't be this current hack then some of us have been experimenting with, as her chambering ability is crazy, and she can kick really well.

I really don't know what to believe. I really would like to believe that she isn't hacking, as having her as an endless wall to bash my sword upon was very helpful in improving my dueling skill, hacker or not. Anyways, does anyone know her early alts? Maybe I fought them before. IMO she is probably neih or some other beta legend trolling us all.
 
Shieeeet, this Haley sounds like a worthy opponent! I might've fought her if she had an alt? Does she still play?
 
It isn't neih, I'm almost sure of it. He just didn't seem like the clan type to me.

That being said, neih did have a few alts. Back in beta there was this fellow who generally went by the name "The_Beast", who was incredibly similar in style to Hayley. By memory, in some duel servers (nK and POM West I think?) the scores were:
neih: 99-5 (nK duel, no health refill)
Beast: 96-6 (nK duel)
Hayley: 111-5 (post-beta server, with health refill. I killed her twice by kickslashing, I think her other deaths were the same.)

IMO, Hayley was hacking. Neih, was not (Reapy could probably attest to that.) Beast, it's possible, but personally, I don't think so.

Then again, maybe neih is all three.
 
mb111.jpg

Yes she and several other KoA came from the Jedi game *just confirming*

Screenshot is about 6 months old
 
I fought Hayley, can't say for certain of course but I don't think she was hacking. I actually tried a bit of feint spam to see if she auto responded to it, can't say she did at all. I didn't kill her but I got a few good hit in so while her blocking was amazing it wasn't completely flawless.

I have seen players who I am almost certain were using scripts, they would spin right round (in a very machine like way) while feinting constantly and still be able to block even if I was behind them. Hayley I think is legitimate.
 
I hate to jump on these things, but why not.

I have only dueled haley a few times, sometimes on other names. I think to start he is a good player, and I think also that at times, but not all, an autoblock was in use.

I really have never thought for a moment that someone was using it except for a time I was dueling haley a bunch of times in a row. As people said, what really got me is the machine like blocks as opposed to more 'natural' blocks people have.  What really tipped me off were times when he was caught in a very distinct process of attacking to watch the weapon snap back to block extremely late in the attack.

Now other times I have dueled haley and she behaved normal, but there have been times I've dueled and the blocks were too machine like, consistently blocking everything except unblockable hits such as kick slash or a close range chamber thrust attack. The other times she played very much like a 'normal' good player blocking most but not all of the attacks without any of the machine like snap blocks.

I have always called neih a human wall but I've never really seen any GOOD players call him a hack after dueling him a bit, while I repeatedly see good players calling haley a hack because his blocking itches people the wrong way, the same way it itched me the wrong way. Not to mention the disparity between his playstyle when 'normal' playing  is happening vs the times she is a human wall seems too distinct.

So, my guess is that haley is a good player, who sometimes used the autoblock to catapult her to 'great' player status when using it. I think he stands out because he is already good to begin with and regularly used it, vs someone who is new, and it is obvious their footwork/timing doesn't match the blocking abilities .

Eh either way, no big deal unless I guess its a clan match, and as leo said too dueling a human wall can really help you improve and understand the game in a slightly different way while you look for methods to penetrate the autoblock. I guess it is the reason I was never too upset in the older servers when autoblock was enabled, it gave you a reason to try out new stuff.

So yeah I am not trying to throw him under the bus but I did want to weigh in that I have had similar thoughts as the other people here about it.
 
Reapy 说:
I hate to jump on these things, but why not.

I have only dueled haley a few times, sometimes on other names. I think to start he is a good player, and I think also that at times, but not all, an autoblock was in use.

I really have never thought for a moment that someone was using it except for a time I was dueling haley a bunch of times in a row. As people said, what really got me is the machine like blocks as opposed to more 'natural' blocks people have.  What really tipped me off were times when he was caught in a very distinct process of attacking to watch the weapon snap back to block extremely late in the attack.

Now other times I have dueled haley and she behaved normal, but there have been times I've dueled and the blocks were too machine like, consistently blocking everything except unblockable hits such as kick slash or a close range chamber thrust attack. The other times she played very much like a 'normal' good player blocking most but not all of the attacks without any of the machine like snap blocks.

I have always called neih a human wall but I've never really seen any GOOD players call him a hack after dueling him a bit, while I repeatedly see good players calling haley a hack because his blocking itches people the wrong way, the same way it itched me the wrong way. Not to mention the disparity between his playstyle when 'normal' playing  is happening vs the times she is a human wall seems too distinct.

So, my guess is that haley is a good player, who sometimes used the autoblock to catapult her to 'great' player status when using it. I think he stands out because he is already good to begin with and regularly used it, vs someone who is new, and it is obvious their footwork/timing doesn't match the blocking abilities .

Eh either way, no big deal unless I guess its a clan match, and as leo said too dueling a human wall can really help you improve and understand the game in a slightly different way while you look for methods to penetrate the autoblock. I guess it is the reason I was never too upset in the older servers when autoblock was enabled, it gave you a reason to try out new stuff.

So yeah I am not trying to throw him under the bus but I did want to weigh in that I have had similar thoughts as the other people here about it.
Is Haley a boy or a girl?
 
John7 说:
mb111.jpg

Yes she and several other KoA came from the Jedi game *just confirming*

Screenshot is about 6 months old

In a server with a bunch of no-names.

Not impressed.
 
Rhade 说:
John7 说:
mb111.jpg

Yes she and several other KoA came from the Jedi game *just confirming*

Screenshot is about 6 months old

In a server with a bunch of no-names.

Not impressed.
Well she did similar against the likes of me, X and Mad Dawg methinks once...
 
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