Defending my castle
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Chris119119
Banned
ya we need that info because once an army of 40 nord hurscals and 60 vaeiger marskmen and me held my castle against 2000 kherigets ( intense fight)
Lizard_man
Master Knight
yeah am sure you need something like a 120 to 140 troops in a castle, the enemy don't normally attack then, someone said they look at quantity and now quality when attacking castles, so just fill it up with something like 120 recruits, this seemed to work for me anyways, plus if you had higher tier troops in your many castles, wage's would get expensive
Ludial
Knight at Arms
on the field they also look at quality of troops. and if you fill it with 200 recruits and several lords with a total of 500 or so come in, you`ll be sorry for not training those recruits. put some serious troops in there and you might actually keep the castle. If you have just one with a lot of high tiers inside, wages shouldn`t be that high. My own currently has about 200 marksmen, 160 or so skirmishers and 4 forest bandits(Lizard_man said:
). I go around with a gang of about 50 skirmishers and archers to level them up and make money. If you want cash, get your Looting high and go hunt sea raiders.
Lizard_man
Master Knight
money isn't such a problem for me, with one castle and high tier troops, it shouldn't cost that much, after a while and taking say seven castles and filling them with high tier troops, i imagine it would get costly, i just heard that the enemy is less likely to attack if you have allot of troops inside, makes sense, higher tier or lower, its just easier and quicker to fill it with recruits , my castle seems to be the main target for all my enemy's after just capturing it, i'd be gathering recruits, traveling back and fourth, my castle is under attack, win that battle luckily, go get some more recruits, under attack again, i almost lost it a few times, once i got the troops up to about 140, mostly recruits, some skirmishers, they didn't attack it again
, my castle seems to be the main target for all my enemy's after just capturing it, i'd be gathering recruits, traveling back and fourth, my castle is under attack, win that battle luckily, go get some more recruits, under attack again, i almost lost it a few times, once i got the troops up to about 140, mostly recruits, some skirmishers, they didn't attack it again
Seismica
Veteran
Lizard_man said:
The first castle i was given (Bulugha castle) i decided to leave a garrison of around 50-60 high tier troops (not the highest, Nord Veterans or along those lines i was thinking). But whilst in the midst of that the Vaegirs promptly attacked me with 1200 men, and i had no hope because the battle size is only 40, because my laptop cannot handle much more, meaning i started off against around 37, whilst me and 2 Nord Huscarls had to defend.
So after escaping that ordeal (and losing the castle and all my troops of course) i built myself back up. This time i took Alburq and Bulugha castle, but used them as a decoy. While they besieged those, i went and took Reyvadin and Dramug castle. I took Dramug castle (because i want Rivacheg to be my first town, not Reyvadin) and so i built up a garrison 200+ strong of mid tier units (around 100 Nord Warriors, 30 Vaegir Veterans, 40 Vaegir archers, a load of low tier nord units plus more).
But that did not deterr the enemy, while i was out raiding their villages (to pay for my huge upkeep costs...) they decided to attack my castle.
This was bad as i only have around 40 Nord trained footmen with me, which i was in the process of levelling up. All my Huscarls, Veterans etc. were in the castle, and to my knowledge around 600-800 have besieged it, possibly more.
What do i do?
I can't sneak into the castle without getting caught on the way (in which case my garrison does not come out to help me...) and i can't fight them off with what i have. I am not the marshall or anything, and my Nord allies won't help.
Any advice?
I'm thinking i could lure their armies away one by one. I can handle 100-150 easily enough, although i will lose quite a few troops in the process, and then i won't be able to handle the rest unless i can unite with my garrison.
I'm just at a loss as to why they do this. If i had their king hostage or something i could understand, but isn't it the responsibility of a single lord to protect his lands? It seems to me like they want to destroy me, they think i'm the antichrist of caladria or something. I mean that first castle, 1200 men! And that was after i beat the 300 strong army that the king had, and then defeated the 200 that were in the castle itself. Its like they threw everything they had at me... I'm just an ickle noob, leave me alone nasty vaegirs!
duracell
Grandmaster Knight
Lure away the besieger armies (not far, just a little away from your castle) than circle them and enter your castle (if necessary disband a part of your army so you can move faster)
You were unlucky with your first castle, you took it when the vaegirs were allready on the warpath, its better to time the taking of your first castle when the enemy is not campaigning.
You were unlucky with your first castle, you took it when the vaegirs were allready on the warpath, its better to time the taking of your first castle when the enemy is not campaigning.
Ludial
Knight at Arms
@Seismica:
1. gather an army of top tier missile troops and learn how to use them without casualties
2. increase your map speed as much as possible
3. before campaign starts, make sure to defeat as many lords as possible in the shortest possible order; this way they won`t have enough people for serious campaign
4. before campaign increase the survivability of your troops(Surgery) as much as possible
5. you might not decide to do this, but you can start a personal war with a faction without your faction being at war with them - this way even if they defeat you at your castle, you get to keep it, and if you have high surgery, most of your troops will survive
6. picking them apart is always a good idea, but only if you`re fast enough and beating them is not at prohibitive costs in manpower; this way a single army can stop an invasion force if that force is spotted while gathering and action is taken in due time.
Alburq castle currently has a garrison of about 350, 200+ of them marksmen, the rest skirmishers, and 4 forest bandits this is how I got to keep it.
1. gather an army of top tier missile troops and learn how to use them without casualties
2. increase your map speed as much as possible
3. before campaign starts, make sure to defeat as many lords as possible in the shortest possible order; this way they won`t have enough people for serious campaign
4. before campaign increase the survivability of your troops(Surgery) as much as possible
5. you might not decide to do this, but you can start a personal war with a faction without your faction being at war with them - this way even if they defeat you at your castle, you get to keep it, and if you have high surgery, most of your troops will survive
6. picking them apart is always a good idea, but only if you`re fast enough and beating them is not at prohibitive costs in manpower; this way a single army can stop an invasion force if that force is spotted while gathering and action is taken in due time.
Alburq castle currently has a garrison of about 350, 200+ of them marksmen, the rest skirmishers, and 4 forest bandits
this is how I got to keep it.
Seismica
Veteran
Ludial said:@Seismica:
1. gather an army of top tier missile troops and learn how to use them without casualties
2. increase your map speed as much as possible
3. before campaign starts, make sure to defeat as many lords as possible in the shortest possible order; this way they won`t have enough people for serious campaign
4. before campaign increase the survivability of your troops(Surgery) as much as possible
5. you might not decide to do this, but you can start a personal war with a faction without your faction being at war with them - this way even if they defeat you at your castle, you get to keep it, and if you have high surgery, most of your troops will survive
6. picking them apart is always a good idea, but only if you`re fast enough and beating them is not at prohibitive costs in manpower; this way a single army can stop an invasion force if that force is spotted while gathering and action is taken in due time.
Alburq castle currently has a garrison of about 350, 200+ of them marksmen, the rest skirmishers, and 4 forest bandits
1) I'm nords so atm i'm mainly using infantry as their archers suck. I seem to raid enemy villages a lot so i can't recruit new troops from them until i get relation up a bit :/ So that option is a bit far off. I can start on getting Vaegir marksmen, but all my vaegir archers and skirmishers are in the castle... not much use right now.
2) I try to carry every food type, and my morale is usually 99, but because i fill my party up with all infantry it goes fairly slow. I'll try to boost my pathfinding skill a bit, but at level 31 its difficult for me, and my companions are busy improving other skills (although i guess Deshavi could improve pathfinding too).
3) Very good tip, but i've been short of money a lot recently, down to large troops numbers, huge food bills
and low looting skill. It basically meant i was having to find ways to make money constantly, and because of low looting skill, fighting the enemies was not very rewarding.4) Also currently training. It is level 5 i think.
5) The nords are currently at war with everyone but the Rhodoks (and i'm constantly getting missions asking me to start that war...). So i don't think that is an option. Theres something about the Vaegir lands i like anyway. Its flat and open, and the snow background is easier on the graphics, so battles in snow actually run better on my crappy laptop lol.
6) I always try to pick them apart, but it usually never works.
Another thing, it doesn't help that while i'm putting all my effort in against the Vaegirs, my faction only ever campaigns against the Swadians. The lands between Rivacheg and Suno are constantly changing hands. But between Rivacheg, Wercheg and Jeirbe castle i'm doing all the work. While the other 15-20 lords are focusing on taking Kelredan castle and losing it again every month or so.
If i was marshall it would be so much easier... Concentrate your military might on the damn Vaegirs! Kill them all, leave none alive!!!
Ludial
Knight at Arms
1. do not raid villages. you get as much money from attacking caravans, and fighting sea raiders and vaegir armies, without decreasing your relations to villages.
2. finding a companion to specialize in scouting skills early on is essential. now, every time I start a new char, I don`t start building a new company before I have Deshavi, Jeremus and Bunduk with me. Of course, you can`t loot villages with these guys, but I don`t do it anyways. I also boost leadership a lot, and fight all the time.
3.looting skill - it`s as essential as scouting and medical skills. without this set of skills, an army is doomed to struggle.
4. see above
5. the vaegirs are currently not at war with anyone, but I have my own wars and fight them by myself. thanks to me, the vaegirs are flourishing right now, despite a period when they were at war with everyone but the Khergits(and I had lords wanting me to start a war with them too >_<)
6. path-finding and spotting are essential to this strategy. also never do it with anything but a company of max 60-70 top tier troops. you need speed and punch for this one most of anything.
2. finding a companion to specialize in scouting skills early on is essential. now, every time I start a new char, I don`t start building a new company before I have Deshavi, Jeremus and Bunduk with me. Of course, you can`t loot villages with these guys, but I don`t do it anyways. I also boost leadership a lot, and fight all the time.
3.looting skill - it`s as essential as scouting and medical skills. without this set of skills, an army is doomed to struggle.
4. see above
5. the vaegirs are currently not at war with anyone, but I have my own wars and fight them by myself. thanks to me, the vaegirs are flourishing right now, despite a period when they were at war with everyone but the Khergits(and I had lords wanting me to start a war with them too >_<)
6. path-finding and spotting are essential to this strategy. also never do it with anything but a company of max 60-70 top tier troops. you need speed and punch for this one most of anything.
