Decapitation and dismemberment

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Polson

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Hey,

are you going to add this later in development? That would be damn immersive.

And add an on/off switch button for it in options menu.
 

The_Schwarz

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I agree. It would be great if this capability was in game.

From what I have seen and with how I been able to cheat dismemberment it into the game with the mod.. I wish there was a way to achieve more separation with meshes. It would have been nice if the meshing system could have been broken out more somehow. Pair of boots or gloves but somehow they would be individually applied to the the skeleton as left hand right hand and not as the hand/arm covering singularity. Same goes for boots. Also, adding in the separation of breeches/leg armor from chest armor so the same thing could be achieved for right leg/left leg.

The overhead to restructure all of this and amount of extra meshes that it would add would be a lot. But would be interesting and add more possibilities for dismemberment.. At least the way I am achieving it now.
 

Shun

Squire
WB
I am not against it. However I ask myself: would it fly with the console crowd? Probably. Would it fly with Sony/Microsoft? Probably not.

So my guess is: Probably not.
 

The_Schwarz

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I am not against it. However I ask myself: would it fly with the console crowd? Probably. Would it fly with Sony/Microsoft? Probably not.

So my guess is: Probably not.
I don't think console crowd is the problem. I mean mainstream series like Call of Duty, GTA, Resident Evil. They do fine on the consoles .... Heck Assassins' Creed Vahalla has more dismemberments and overly graphic executions than what we are suggesting be added.
 

Shun

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WB
I don't think console crowd is the problem. I mean mainstream series like Call of Duty, GTA, Resident Evil. They do fine on the consoles .... Heck Assassins' Creed Vahalla has more dismemberments and overly graphic executions than what we are suggesting be added.

If that is the case, I stand corrected.
 

MostBlunted

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I am not against it. However I ask myself: would it fly with the console crowd? Probably. Would it fly with Sony/Microsoft? Probably not.

So my guess is: Probably not.
It would be no problem for Mircrosoft / Sony. Just look at Gears of War / God of War as an example. Sure it would be rated 18+ so maybe it´s an issue for Tale Worlds because 18+ usually means less sales. There are a lot of console games with gore.

Less sales means TW isn´t interested in it.
 

MostBlunted

On probation
Lmao, because CoD kids were never a thing, right? :lol:
18+ doesn´t mean that only 18+ people play those games, but it´s not as easy to advertise 18+ games in many countries compared to <18 games.

Also you really can´t compare a huge franchise like CoD with a niche game like Bannerlord. How many of those CoD kids do even know that Warband/Bannerlord exists? How many Warband/Bannerlord players know that CoD exist? :wink:

But publisher consider the ratings for games and if possible they try to achieve <18 ratings. See Total War Warhammer as an example, it´s 16+ and has less gore without the cheap "Blood for the blood god" DLC (was day 1 dlc for 1,99€ if remeber correctly). The DLC is 18+ and just adds the gore effects but because it is just a DLC the base game is 16+ :wink:

They didn´t add it as a DLC because they wanted the extra money, they wanted to avoid the 18+ rating for the game and they did it that way.
 

Shun

Squire
WB
18+ doesn´t mean that only 18+ people play those games, but it´s not as easy to advertise 18+ games in many countries compared to <18 games.

Also you really can´t compare a huge franchise like CoD with a niche game like Bannerlord. How many of those CoD kids do even know that Warband/Bannerlord exists? How many Warband/Bannerlord players know that CoD exist? :wink:

But publisher consider the ratings for games and if possible they try to achieve <18 ratings. See Total War Warhammer as an example, it´s 16+ and has less gore without the cheap "Blood for the blood god" DLC (was day 1 dlc for 1,99€ if remeber correctly). The DLC is 18+ and just adds the gore effects but because it is just a DLC the base game is 16+ :wink:

They didn´t add it as a DLC because they wanted the extra money, they wanted to avoid the 18+ rating for the game and they did it that way.

Which is a smart move, in the studios view. Many players where quite disgruntled at first though.

On a related point, TW WH 3 got announced today.
 

MostBlunted

On probation
Which is a smart move, in the studios view. Many players where quite disgruntled at first though.

On a related point, TW WH 3 got announced today.
Yes, I guess it will be released Q3/Q4 .

And yes, there was small uproar because of the DLC. But at least you got it for free for TTW2 if you bought it for TTW1.
 
There were a bunch of discussions on this already. I think it comes down to TW avoiding the 18+ rating and there is a mod for it.
In short, it TW will never release but mods are there to workaround it.
 

bbaydogdu

Veteran
I wouldn't want dismemberment or decapitation on the battlefield since it doesn't add immersion from historical perspective. It just turns the game into one of those hollywood bs. However I would like the see the decapitation part in execution scenes.
 
I am not against it. However I ask myself: would it fly with the console crowd? Probably. Would it fly with Sony/Microsoft? Probably not.

So my guess is: Probably not.
To be honest, Cyberpunk is on the potato consoles and it has pretty gruesome kill scenes.Its a 18+ game tho, Bannerlord I guess is 16+ ?
 

MostBlunted

On probation
I wouldn't want dismemberment or decapitation on the battlefield since it doesn't add immersion from historical perspective. It just turns the game into one of those hollywood bs. However I would like the see the decapitation part in execution scenes.
So from a historical perspective if a trained soldier hits a peasant without armor with his longsword he would just bleed a little bit and die?

History is really awesome!
 

bbaydogdu

Veteran
So from a historical perspective if a trained soldier hits a peasant without armor with his longsword he would just bleed a little bit and die?

History is really awesome!
Kinda. Sword propably cuts off some part of the flesh and gets stuck deep inside the flesh. It wouldn't be little bit bleeding. Decapitations happens mostly after battles for higher ranked men. Wining side's men put enemy lord's or knight's head on a stake to make an example for the rest of the enemies. In the middle of battle? Naaaah... It is really really hard to completely cut off body parts like neck, arms, legs with a single strike no matter how well trained the warrior is. If a wariror lands a solid strike to disable his opponent doesn't waste any more time to decapitate or dismember him. He just finishes him quickly and move on.
 
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