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Alright, I understand what you need to GET when you die, but how do you get the items?

You get all of the trophies, and then the Death Wand and Charm. Where do you get those?
 
Death Ward comes from Armies of the Dead  (specifically the Perished One, I believe)
I have not been able to get a Charm of Fear yet, despite defeating two migrating bear clans.
The Charm of Regeneration comes from trading a set of 3 different trophies (battle, war, epic).
 
macethump said:
I have not been able to get a Charm of Fear yet, despite defeating two migrating bear clans.

this is a bit tricky because the clans are so large. but should be easier in 0.95b because now there are more than one bear clan leader per tribe.
 
i just died and i got 19 days left and i dont know how to get the stuff to get back alive,plz help me
 
Danath said:
yaluzan said:
i just died and i got 19 days left and i dont know how to get the stuff to get back alive,plz help me
You can't, that is what not being version 1.XX means: mod not fully functional  :wink:

you can. that was added in 0.95.
you need to have Charm of Fear, Charm of Regeneration, and Death Ward. I wrote about it many times already.
also press M for more information in game.
 
Man... I just had the shortest possible life...

You kill a Vaegir Skirmrisher
You gain 40 Experience
You advance to level 7
Ranger of Ryviadin hits you for 43 damage
You perish from this earth etc etc...

Within one second of getting level 7, I died. To top it off, I have no method of getting the items needed... Migrating Bear Clans are still too strong for me or my army, I have yet to even see an Epic Trophy and I can't find any fallen riders anywhere...
 
macethump said:
I have not been able to get a Charm of Fear yet, despite defeating two migrating bear clans.
I have the same problem only I have defeated 3.
I recently was killed by a farmer at level 9(damn pitchforks) and have managed to acquire 2 epic trophies and a Death Ward from a 23 man Army of the Dead, and got 3 war trophies and about 15 battle trophies from taking out 3 migrating bear clans (luckily I had lots of money and could go to every village in the game and got recruits) but have yet to see any charms. I only have 2 days left on this planet and am getting quite desperate.

And before you ask, I am using 0.95b.
 
Louis Dumonte said:
macethump said:
I have not been able to get a Charm of Fear yet, despite defeating two migrating bear clans.
I have the same problem only I have defeated 3.
I recently was killed by a farmer at level 9(damn pitchforks) and have managed to acquire 2 epic trophies and a Death Ward from a 23 man Army of the Dead, and got 3 war trophies and about 15 battle trophies from taking out 3 migrating bear clans (luckily I had lots of money and could go to every village in the game and got recruits) but have yet to see any charms. I only have 2 days left on this planet and am getting quite desperate.

And before you ask, I am using 0.95b.

yeah, seems like that takes a lot of luck. probably best chance to get a charm from the tribe is when bear clan leaders are left in the last battle you fight. So you could try to comb through it and get rid of as many lower tier bear units as possible, then re-engage.

Well -- that's realistic as well, it would be hard to find a charm among 500 slain bear clan warriors..

Perhaps I'll make it possible to trade a set of trophies for a charm of fear as well.
 
Chel said:
yeah, seems like that takes a lot of luck. probably best chance to get a charm from the tribe is when bear clan leaders are left in the last battle you fight. So you could try to comb through it and get rid of as many lower tier bear units as possible, then re-engage.

Well -- that's realistic as well, it would be hard to find a charm among 500 slain bear clan warriors..

Perhaps I'll make it possible to trade a set of trophies for a charm of fear as well.
That might be helpful.  I will try the "kill lower tiers, rinse, repeat" strategy and see if that helps.  It's just that I hate to lose all that loot - pointed sticks are apparently somewhat rare in Calradia.
 
Make a veteran/bloody bear tribe army, but only size 250'ish.
1 leader(veteran leader?), lots of eaters of the dead, tones of grizzlies, and tonnes of mounted. No tribesman or warriors. Might make it equally hard while lowering the amount of units increasing the chance of charm of fear drop. I dunno. Or code in something that makes the leader the last guy to spawn in the list. I really have no idea.
It's not immortality, only resurrection, so it shouldn't have to be ridiculously hard, considering the high probability of death. But I dunno, whatever you do works for me.
 
As much as I enjoy playing Merchants, they're simply too weak. The starting stats and money make a very, very good leader-type character, able to field armies twice the size of others in half the time(which I enjoy doing) yet all it takes is one stray arrow and you're dead...

However, I don't think Merchants should be buffed directly. Instead, I think it would be interesting if Chel added different ways of bringing a fallen character back to life. For one, there is the current method, which obviously favors combat(Three trophies only obtained from many, many battles, and two different items only found off of tough enemies). What if several different ways were added, that favored different methods of gameplay? For example, if a player with a high intelligence reads a lot of books(On the same topic sorta, I think there needs to be more books with higher INT requirements. Most weapons require at least 14 Strength with some up to 35 - most books require under 12 intelligence) he might figure out a way to make some sort of draught that reqires rare ingredients not found from combat, but by traveling across the world hunting and talking with people to find them.
 
Chel said:
probably best chance to get a charm from the tribe is when bear clan leaders are left in the last battle you fight. So you could try to comb through it and get rid of as many lower tier bear units as possible, then re-engage.
I saved game before attacking a bear tribe. I have the help of my faction lords: 900vs500  :twisted:
Option 1- I fight 2 rounds, until bear tribe is just 150. Let them go. Fight them with only 1 lord helping=got epic trophy, but no charm
Option 2-Fight them until all are dead. I kept my soldiers away from battle. Got 2 charms of Fear Damn!
 
Danath said:
Chel said:
probably best chance to get a charm from the tribe is when bear clan leaders are left in the last battle you fight. So you could try to comb through it and get rid of as many lower tier bear units as possible, then re-engage.
I saved game before attacking a bear tribe. I have the help of my faction lords: 900vs500  :twisted:
Option 1- I fight 2 rounds, until bear tribe is just 150. Let them go. Fight them with only 1 lord helping=got epic trophy, but no charm
Option 2-Fight them until all are dead. I kept my soldiers away from battle. Got 2 charms of Fear Damn!
I had a similar event just happen. I was running 20-some furs down to Jekala(best price for fur there) when I stumbled upon a fight of 800 Rhodok troops lead by several lords fighting 900(!!!) Bear Clans(2 Migrating Tribes + several pillagers). Despite not being aligned with the Rhodoks, I joined in and we demolished them. Jumped from level 8 to level 11 from that one conflict, got two Charms of Fear(sadly no Epic Trophies. I was hoping to get one because if any word could describe that fight it would be epic.) as well as some decent loot(though nothing outstanding).

So with these Charms then, do they work just by having them in your inventory?
 
Ah, crap. I died... due to a stupid mistake more then anything else. I joined up with the Vaegirs, then started fighting with the lords/king himself. Huge fight with Swadia, going poorly, most of our first wave died to I decided to retreat so the second wave. Seemed like a good idea. The problem wasn't retreating, it was how I was retreating. Instead of bringing up my shield and slowly moving back to the rest of the army, I turn around and fled. Got hit by a crossbow bolt in the back. If I had my shield up I would have blocked that...

We lost the battle. Out of 1200+ troops on each side, the Swadians won with 50. Anyway, I now have 20 days left on the earth and I need to be resurrected. I have the Charm of Fear, as mentioned earlier. I haven't seen a single Army of the Dead all game - has anyone noticed a particular place they tend to congregate(Sort of how bandits are in large supply in the forest around Senuzgda Castle?). I'm makign getting a Death Ward my first priority now. Since Epic Trophies come from random fights, I guess I'll just have to run around fighting as much as possible for that one...

EDIT: I just found an Army of the Dead. Only I have no chance at all of defeating it. I mean... there's 39 Fallen Ones. I have 39 Vaegir Archers...
EDIT2: I found a much smaller Army of the Dead, consisting of only 5 Fallen Ones. They were easy to defeat, but no Death Ward, and no Epic Trophy

I did notice an interesting phenomenon however. When I died I was given the item "Spirit Mask", which I never got when a previous character died. It's the same skull that Fallen Ones wear, with good stats(+50 to Head, Body and Leg armor). It's most interesting feature is after I donned it, it gave me new powers. Regularly I will see a message saying "The mask gives you strength", which adds another day onto my total time remaining on this world. So far I've gotten this message 4 times over the period of 3 days, so right now I'm still at 19 days(Once the mask was wasted, giving me strength when I had 20 days left, leaving me with 20 days on this world). Anyway, does this mask expire after a while, or can I count on it's regenerating time until I recover? Also, why didn't I get it on my other characters?
 
RndmNumGenerator said:
EDIT: I just found an Army of the Dead. Only I have no chance at all of defeating it. I mean... there's 39 Fallen Ones. I have 39 Vaegir Archers...

you can do it! seriously, try it.
 
Chel said:
RndmNumGenerator said:
EDIT: I just found an Army of the Dead. Only I have no chance at all of defeating it. I mean... there's 39 Fallen Ones. I have 39 Vaegir Archers...

you can do it! seriously, try it.

Yeah, I was wondering about that after I completely obliverated the 5 ones. I mean, 5 isn't many, but I killed three of them myself with my Rangers downing the other two. However, now I have no idea were they ran off to. It's been two days since I last encountered them.
 
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