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Dear TW, I heard you're planning to **** up this great game.
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" Well, in Warband the combat format was pretty inviting to be exploited by automated scripts, because even if the movements don't make sense; because they were able to be fired in such rapid succession you could still confuse people mightily with that. But no, I have no indication of anyone of you actually using cheat codes or scripts."
Yes he's clearly talking about cheats.
" Wrong, it's the other way around where veterans want to dominate every single game and every combat situation and humiliate and frustrate everyone who dares to feel adventurous enough to try MP once. Among other reasons it's a kind of bullying and separating oneself from the "the rest" and implying you have more to say about the game and it's direction than them. It's you and the peasants, isn't it? And you can repeat "Warband wasn't feintspam" a billion times more, I played that game, it was feintspam galore. "
He thinks people in Warband suffer from small PP syndrome yes.
I mean you clearly understand what he is saying you're just not agreeing with him. That's two diffrent things.
" Don't make MP into something only <22y.o. can enjoy and don't make SP and MP diverge too much from each other. Thank you. Up until I see this go wrong I will trust you have the best interest of the game at heart and that I only heard fake news. "
Ok now I see your problem, you need to read upp on metaphors. I can help you a little bit "metaphor is a figure of speech containing an implied comparison"
Yes there are better ways of relaying ones train of thought. It's still understandable.
Haha no I dont think that's actually what he's saying. That would truly be strange and not understandable.
Would agree with you if it wasn't for his posts in the past
Also it's very funny looking back at those quotes. Because he keeps claiming that there are sweaty tryhards in multiplayer who keep spending so much time training and other newer people don't have time for this, the exact same thing is happening in bannerlord but to a more extreme extend because only a niche community of people are playing the game daily while the rest is playing singleplayer. Those few players are going to be ultra strong while newer players won't be able to catch up with them.
What is happening right now is the exact thing he hated so much.
Yeah, I mean I dont agree with most things he says anyway.
Yeah he's clearly the fanatic on the Bannerlord side.
Wolfmensch007
Banned
I declare some people of you as enemy of some other people here. And will seal this decleration with Butter. And now lets feast!
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Obviously it is YOU who doesen't understand anyone here except metafa.
His status of being a laughing stock of this forum (among few other members) is well earned by his previous comments and threads, which you should check yourself and you will see this conversation wasnt started from scratch, but is a continuation of his ignorance about anything he ever writes, and then goes on an insult-train on everyone he gives labels to (high-pulse kid, warband fanatic and so on) afterwards.
That's anything but online bullying him, if anything, it's the other way arround, then when people gather to defend common sence, it's his fauly he is alone in his ignorance.
Mentioned his ignorance, i will elaborate:
He is not informed. He doesen't read up developers' comments fully nor carefully. On the matters he thinks he is informed, he is very much ILL-informed.
This was proven over many of his comments even most recently, i'm not going as far as couple months ago, but only several days.
This is after 3 months of developers saying openly in multiple threads they are testing and tightening the combat parametars in order to make combat work as they intended, because they found several factors making it not work how they intended initially.
Thats only a glimpse of how UNinformed he is.
Now another one, after being directed to developers' posts saying they are working with a group of testers to tweak the combat, he ignotantly makes this thread, and comments the following
But we were being told by the developers that the actual testing group consists of (in a style one user showed earlier):
AVRC - "There was good mix of hardcore warband fanatics, pure Bannerlord players, players that enjoy both, casual players and hardcore top clan members."
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Implying there were many more of the casual, Bannerlord players like him they were listening to.
That's only a glimpse of how ILL-informed he is.
And after all of that, he claims there is NO block delay (all the while he speaks how he doesen't feel it im singleplayer, while block delay is an intended mechanic to fight difference of pings in multiplayer,which he doesen't understand as well), but we all know that delay is there, is intended to be there, but not in such ammount, and we were told by the developers they are tweaking it too (again stealing piconi comment format for devs answer):
...and so on
Yet we all know for a year, and confirmed several months ago that the intentional block delay isn't working as intended and is being taken care of.
NIN3 - "To avoid confusion "block delay" is always there (it was in warband and it is in Bannerlord), but in Bannerlord the weight of a weapon makes your block be slower and the blending between the animation also has an affect. We are working on ways to make this better right now, but I can't share any details yet. "
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That's just a glimpse of how ignorant of game mechanics he is.
There are no circlejerks as you say. He is just a forum laughing stock (besides several others), and it's getting kind of sad when ppl like him keep digging their own holes like this, making themselves completely illegitimate and useless to talk with or as sources of any informantion.
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I think you just need to go back school because his point was clear. Yeah maybe he muddled his sentences at times, but never to the point where he did not get his point across.
Also, there is nothing clear about "superior warband gameplay", this is just like, your opinion man. I never really played alot of MP in Warband so I can't comment on the skill ceiling, but it just flat out LOOKS ridiculous.
He is allowed to provide his feedback and his thoughts the same as you.
You don't get to decide what people get to say on a forum. That's a little fascist of you, don't you think?
My entire Latin class tuned in to watch SG vs tK in 2015 and they had a blast.
This game turning more into Warband terrifies you because it would mean kicking after every swing and completely relying on Javelins would no longer be viable, and that would make you largely irrelevant compared to people who know what they are doing. Players who actually know how to melee block would suddenly become a valuable commodity and that’s something that the new gen Bannerlord folks just won’t stand for.
No, sorry , I don't agree. Usually threads like this do get closed by the mods. Mods usually take a look.. and see that a thread is full of negativity and hostility with hardly anything constructive...and they close it. Rightly so.
With enough exercise you can be the best player in Warband, because all of the mechanics are exact and accurate. Therefore, ping difference doesn't give you a lot of advantages nor disadvantages. You can still play with 100 pings and do better than someone with 10 pings. Only things you need are willingness and an abundance of time. People who had these 2 essentials and with enough exercise play the game better than a 50-hours-player whose only experience is only SP campaign. (For instance, last week I started playing LoL and did 42-0-0 in tutorial match against bots, in a real game i did 1-12-2) To be the better player or the better team, people have studied the game literally over the last 10 years. However, you can't find a siginificant exploitation in game mechanics apart from minor bugs and glitches on maps.
However, Bannerlord 's MP is completely broken in that regard. Mechanics, animations and even sounds are highly inaccurate to play competetively. Hopefully they'll fix these issues, although I bet it will take much time. For competiton, which is the essentiality of a MP game, you need people with the desire to play the game better exercise and study. But your request is completely demands the other way and doesn't give a chance for competetive game-play.
We've made many suggesstions since the alpha, most of these were either rejected or ignored. Some basics things were taken into consideration and fixed. There are still many things to be fixed, however I lost my willingness to study the game with probably many other veterans who have been playing Warband for so long. I just hope TW has a solid plan about the future of MP and prepare a common ground for both the old and new players and fix some things that are presently wrong for a MP game.
However, Bannerlord 's MP is completely broken in that regard. Mechanics, animations and even sounds are highly inaccurate to play competetively. Hopefully they'll fix these issues, although I bet it will take much time. For competiton, which is the essentiality of a MP game, you need people with the desire to play the game better exercise and study. But your request is completely demands the other way and doesn't give a chance for competetive game-play.
We've made many suggesstions since the alpha, most of these were either rejected or ignored. Some basics things were taken into consideration and fixed. There are still many things to be fixed, however I lost my willingness to study the game with probably many other veterans who have been playing Warband for so long. I just hope TW has a solid plan about the future of MP and prepare a common ground for both the old and new players and fix some things that are presently wrong for a MP game.
Wolfmensch007
Banned
Wow Metafa dissapointed me i guess
You guys are the people who are hostile from my opinon.
1. He posted his feedback / opinion like he has a right to
2. People complaining about his English not making any sense, when it actually did (I guess they just have a bad grasp on English)
3. People called him out for being bad at the game and basically being a pleb
4. People started hurling personal insults
5. All he did was try to defend his opinion.
Yeah in some places he was flat out wrong, but that doesn't make him hostile, nor should it keep him from being able to voice his opinions even if some of his "facts" were wrong.
=> Warband MP isn't better
=> Never really played MP
There is nothing with his english, you would know if you actually read. Some of us are saying the way he is getting his points across is confusing, big difference lad
Revverie
I came back just to say two words:
Git
Gud
Sincerely, a 22 year old.
Git
Gud
Sincerely, a 22 year old.
I never said it wasn't better. I am merely pointing out that it's just your opinion that it is, and his that it isn't.
You cannot objectively say that it is better or not.
Plenty of people, including yourself and Canton have straight up insulted his English.
You actually didn't read what i juste wrote and the quotes you just quoted like nice troll man.
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