Dark Knights:

[Tismanu]

Killing everyone is the point of a war isn't it? In order to stop an act of aggression forever is to put out the source of that aggression. Words and figuative peace is just a condition that everyone is suppose to agree to. Ideals clash and we fight and kill everyone that stands in our way to prove that our ideals are better.

And dark, light or any other word has no true meaning to it except that we prove the connotaction for it. Why do you call it dark or black when you close your eyes when in actuality you don't see anything at all? Light or bright can also be bad if you think by the logic of light brightens the darkness, fire provides that light, fire consumes biological life, thus by logic, light=death.

 

[MrRoy]

Killing everyone is the point of a war isn't it? In order to stop an act of aggression forever is to put out the source of that aggression. Words and figurative peace is just a condition that everyone is suppose to agree to. Ideals clash and we fight and kill everyone that stands in our way to prove that our ideals are better.

And dark, light or any other word has no true meaning to it except that we prove the connotaction for it. Why do you call it dark or black when you close your eyes when in actuality you don't see anything at all? Light or bright can also be bad if you think by the logic of light brightens the darkness, fire provides that light, fire consumes biological life, thus by logic, light=death.

Actually, dark is what everyone fear (figurative), we need light to live, you sleep the night, and you play computer at day (lol) the thing is, without light you don't see anything, and lightless = dark. That's why dark is feared (still figurative), what you do when it's about 10pm, and it's dark outside, you open the light. Why? To see.

If the dark knights bring darkness in Calradia, well they ARE evil, because we need light to see what we're doing, where we're going, etc. Still it's figurative, because the dark knights won't take the sun away, but you get what i mean..

 

[Tismanu]

Not everyone fears light but its because our society makes it that an "Honest" person should do thinks where everyone can see and an "evil" person does thing without anyone seeing them. Hence the term dark has been associated with evil, only a shady man would walk around at night only an unvirtuious woman would walk the street without an escort. But the word itself is how we create it to be. What if back then someone said that light is evil, it brings death and dark is warm. We would reverse the meaning of the words today. And you don't need light to sleep or live. You could live in a cave or underground for ages, in complete darkness if you want and as long as you get something to eat, drink and probably exercise so you don't loose your mass you will still live. You sleep when your tired, not because its night. If you reverse your sleeping order you can sleep in the day time and stay up at night. In fact take a blind person. They live their life without ever seeing light. Could you describe the meaning of dark and light to them by saying that light is something you see and dark is something you don't?

 

[The Mercenary]

Killing everyone is the point of a war isn't it? In order to stop an act of aggression forever is to put out the source of that aggression. Words and figurative peace is just a condition that everyone is suppose to agree to. Ideals clash and we fight and kill everyone that stands in our way to prove that our ideals are better.

And dark, light or any other word has no true meaning to it except that we prove the connotaction for it. Why do you call it dark or black when you close your eyes when in actuality you don't see anything at all? Light or bright can also be bad if you think by the logic of light brightens the darkness, fire provides that light, fire consumes biological life, thus by logic, light=death.

Actually, dark is what everyone fear (figurative), we need light to live, you sleep the night, and you play computer at day (lol) the thing is, without light you don't see anything, and lightless = dark. That's why dark is feared (still figurative), what you do when it's about 10pm, and it's dark outside, you open the light. Why? To see.

If the dark knights bring darkness in Calradia, well they ARE evil, because we need light to see what we're doing, where we're going, etc. Still it's figurative, because the dark knights won't take the sun away, but you get what i mean..

No one fears the dark. People fear the unknown, and the dark obscures what they can see, meaning it is unknown. I love the dark, personally. Also, I have great night vision, so I don't turn on lights at 22:00 often.

Killing everyone is the point of a war isn't it? In order to stop an act of aggression forever is to put out the source of that aggression. Words and figurative peace is just a condition that everyone is suppose to agree to. Ideals clash and we fight and kill everyone that stands in our way to prove that our ideals are better.

And dark, light or any other word has no true meaning to it except that we prove the connotaction for it. Why do you call it dark or black when you close your eyes when in actuality you don't see anything at all? Light or bright can also be bad if you think by the logic of light brightens the darkness, fire provides that light, fire consumes biological life, thus by logic, light=death.

Actually, dark is what everyone fear (figurative), we need light to live, you sleep the night, and you play computer at day (lol) the thing is, without light you don't see anything, and lightless = dark. That's why dark is feared (still figurative), what you do when it's about 10pm, and it's dark outside, you open the light. Why? To see.

If the dark knights bring darkness in Calradia, well they ARE evil, because we need light to see what we're doing, where we're going, etc. Still it's figurative, because the dark knights won't take the sun away, but you get what i mean..

No. Who ever said they're bringing darkness? Again, perhaps they are sweeping monarchies away. Every group but the Rhodoks has an established monarch, and the Rhodoks seem to have one.

 

[MrRoy]

No. Who ever said they're bringing darkness? Again, perhaps they are sweeping monarchies away. Every group but the Rhodoks has an established monarch, and the Rhodoks seem to have one.

You.
[quote author= The Mercenary]73 - MAJOR CHANGE: After 75 days in game, a mysterious faction with incredibly powerful troops will invade Calradia from a random direction.  At first, only the kingdoms closest to them will bother to fight, but after a while, as their foothold grows, all kingdoms will come to realize this threat for what it is.
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If they will INVADE Calradia, that means they will kill whoever tries to stop them from taking it over, it also means they will take control of the area, even if the population doesn't want them to. They will push people out of the area, and take it for them.
[quote author=Dictionary Reference]1. to enter forcefully as an enemy; go into with hostile intent: Germany invaded Poland in 1939.
2. to enter like an enemy: Locusts invaded the fields.
3. to enter as if to take possession: to invade a neighbor's home.
4. to enter and affect injuriously or destructively, as disease: viruses that invade the bloodstream.
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9. to make an invasion: troops awaiting the signal to invade.[/quote]

If it's a threat, it means it's dangerous for everyone. It's risky to let them in Calradia without doing anything. It's "evil". Let's say your a kid and your parents told you to never go near that cliff. Well the cliff isn't evil, because it doesn't have any bad intentions, but if we replace the cliff with a criminal, well yes, the criminal is evil, because he is dangerous and does have bad intentions. He decides what he does. The dark knights decided to invade Calradia, to push Calradians out of their territory, their home. They're dangerous because if you fight them they may pwn you. So yes, we can say they are evil because they have bad intentions, which includes killing people and letting them homeless.

 

[Mini Marine]

well as has already been pointed out we don't know the underlying intentions of the Dark Knights, when the Allies INVADED Germany in WWII was that evil? After all, the Germans were ruled by an evil Sociopath, and had started the war in the first place, but lets say you were dropped in to the middle of it, not having any background of past history or the surrounding world...We don't know what happened in our little part of the game world, or the history of the rest of the planet for that matter when we begin, all we know is the 5 kingdoms fighting amongst themselves.

For all we know the Dark Knights could basically be a force of UN Peacekeepers, trying to take out the local warlords fighting amongst themselves and forcing their people to fight their wars causing untold hardship and devastation to everyone involved.  They could very well be trying to eliminate each factions ability to wage war and take out their corrupt leaders in order to put in place a democracy, or some sort of benevolent dictatorship.

Or they could be pure unadulterated evil with a mission to bring pain and suffering to everyone they meet.

The point is we don't know, do we?

 

[Tismanu]

If it's a threat, it means it's dangerous for everyone. It's risky to let them in Calradia without doing anything. It's "evil". Let's say your a kid and your parents told you to never go near that cliff. Well the cliff isn't evil, because it doesn't have any bad intentions, but if we replace the cliff with a criminal, well yes, the criminal is evil, because he is dangerous and does have bad intentions. He decides what he does. The dark knights decided to invade Calradia, to push Calradians out of their territory, their home. They're dangerous because if you fight them they may pwn you. So yes, we can say they are evil because they have bad intentions, which includes killing people and letting them homeless.

The thing is, we assume that Calradia has been this way for centuries do we not? That every nations here raised to fame and power through peaceful means with each other. How do we know that the dark knights aren't a race of people who once lived in that area before they were pushed out of the land by the current inhabitant. Now they have returned to reclaim their land. Does that make them evil for wanting it back or does that make them good? Kind of fits in with marines WWII analogy. Was it wrong for the allied to push back Germany and in fact invaded the nation of germany? Were the allies evil for pushing out the german citizens who lived in Berlin, Hamburg etc? I'm pretty sure those citizen loved to get their housed bombed into a crater and that no innocent civilian were hurt in the massive bombing campaign to weaken Berlin before the allies invaded. And while yes I do agreed that the US and the allies are evil, Such as being the only nation to ever drop not one but two nukes on civlizan targets, the end results of them invading germany was a good thing wasn't it?

Besides, i still want to know the question of how do you explain dark, light, colors in general to a blind person.

 

[MrRoy]

when the Allies INVADED Germany in WWII was that evil?

Neither did they have an evil intention, they wanted to restore the peace over the world. If no wars were active by the time they invaded(let's say day 300 theres no war, you made peace, then select the invasion of the dark knights to be IMMEDIATLY) well the dark knights would kill everyone anyway. Also do you think a force of UN peacekeepers would call themselves DARK knights? how bout the Peacekeepers knights, or the White knights, the light knights, etc. If they were even trying to restore peace, they'd gently go to the monarches, and ask them to make peace or "We're gonna use brutal force, and if it still doesn't work, even MORE brutal force" cuz we all know when brute force doesn't solve your problems, you aren't using enough of it .
They just come here, kill everyone, merciless. And the thing is, they besiege castles, so they arent trying to restore whatsoever peace by doing more war. They'd just kill/capture the monarches if they'd want this.

If it's a threat, it means it's dangerous for everyone. It's risky to let them in Calradia without doing anything. It's "evil". Let's say your a kid and your parents told you to never go near that cliff. Well the cliff isn't evil, because it doesn't have any bad intentions, but if we replace the cliff with a criminal, well yes, the criminal is evil, because he is dangerous and does have bad intentions. He decides what he does. The dark knights decided to invade Calradia, to push Calradians out of their territory, their home. They're dangerous because if you fight them they may pwn you. So yes, we can say they are evil because they have bad intentions, which includes killing people and letting them homeless.

The thing is, we assume that Calradia has been this way for centuries do we not? That every nations here raised to fame and power through peaceful means with each other. How do we know that the dark knights aren't a race of people who once lived in that area before they were pushed out of the land by the current inhabitant. Now they have returned to reclaim their land. Does that make them evil for wanting it back or does that make them good? Kind of fits in with marines WWII analogy. Was it wrong for the allied to push back Germany and in fact invaded the nation of germany? Were the allies evil for pushing out the german citizens who lived in Berlin, Hamburg etc? I'm pretty sure those citizen loved to get their housed bombed into a crater and that no innocent civilian were hurt in the massive bombing campaign to weaken Berlin before the allies invaded. And while yes I do agreed that the US and the allies are evil, Such as being the only nation to ever drop not one but two nukes on civlizan targets, the end results of them invading germany was a good thing wasn't it?

Besides, i still want to know the question of how do you explain dark, light, colors in general to a blind person.

If you'd be pushed out of your home, would you come back, weeks, months, see years later with a bomb (cuz we can consider dark knights as bombs) and kill everyone without asking for anything? Well I wouldn't. I'd just come back with a gun and say "hey you, gtfo my house now" Also I wouldn't consider myself as a Dark something, because all im trying to do is get something that belongs to me back. They wouldn't be called the dark knights, maybe more the Calradians Aboriginal or something, but not Dark Knights. Also if they are so strong, why would've they let themselves pushed out of their home?

 

[Mini Marine]

OK, calling themselves "Dark" anything does not in and of itself make them evil.  Lets say that they were the original inhabitants and were just a simple peace loving society.They may have had a small military like force to take on the occasional bandits or what have you but where in no way equipped to fight a full scale war.  The military was crushed and the rightful rulers who were beloved by their people were either killed or escaped into exile. Their people were brutalized and forced to submit to their new rulers.  That society has now fragmented into the 6 factions we have today.  For generations the exiled survivors have made it their goal to learn all there is to know of the arts of war, and retake their homeland.  Now the time is ripe, the years of warfare have weakened the disjointed factions and they must capitalize on the opportunity before someone reunites the kingdoms and ends their dream of retaking their home.

How do we know that they are mistreating the people in the towns and villages that they take? for all we know they could be much better to them than their current rulers.  They took the initiative and mounted a surprise attack against the military forces of their enemies in order to establish a toehold in the area, now they are attempting to expand their sphere of influence and grow their powerbase before the kingdoms realize that they must organize and face them together.

The reason they call themselves the Dark Knights is because they have lost the light of their homeland they have been exiled into darkness, that could very well a possibility.

Or they could be hell spawn demons of death and destruction, the point is we don't know.  There is no known back story for us to judge them against.  Just because they are invaders does not in and of itself mean that they are evil.

 

[Tismanu]

If you'd be pushed out of your home, would you come back, weeks, months, see years later with a bomb (cuz we can consider dark knights as bombs) and kill everyone without asking for anything? Well I wouldn't. I'd just come back with a gun and say "hey you, gtfo my house now" Also I wouldn't consider myself as a Dark something, because all im trying to do is get something that belongs to me back. They wouldn't be called the dark knights, maybe more the Calradians Aboriginal or something, but not Dark Knights. Also if they are so strong, why would've they let themselves pushed out of their home?

Because strength is nothing if you are caught by surprise or being overwhelm. Case in point, the romans and the Goth. Here you have the Roman army, the best trained and strongest army in the world at the time whose empire at one time stretch from the Med sea all the way to part of Britian. No known nation in the world could fully beat them, let alone sack their capital and who was the one that manage to do something that the Greeks or egypt can't? A group of nomad barbarians. Another example is the German armored division in WWII. They had the best trained and most powerful tanks in all the war but they couldn't kill the shermans and T-34 fast enough and the resource it takes to build or train a tiger or a panzer is probably doubled the amount it takes to build a T-34.

And you said you would come back with a gun and say get out of my house? Would you do that if you know that your house is being occupied by 12 men with similar guns or better ones then you and are better trained at combat than you? And obviously if someone overran your area, threw you out of your own country by force they would definately listen to a plea of peace. Maybe France or Poland should have went up to Hitler during the war and ask "Umm excuse me hitler sir, may we have our country back?" You think that will work? During war, capturing a leader or general can stop a war or it can not. A general or a leader is only one person, if you don't stop the whole army, you probably will get defeated. Shooting an officer in the field won't stop a company from coming after you.

Or it could be for the stupid fact that their armor is black? I mean maybe the area where they are currently live in produce a metal that has more CO2 than other area. Thats why their armor is black. People tend to remember stuff visually and physically more. Hence why there is racism.

 

[MrRoy]

If you'd be pushed out of your home, would you come back, weeks, months, see years later with a bomb (cuz we can consider dark knights as bombs) and kill everyone without asking for anything? Well I wouldn't. I'd just come back with a gun and say "hey you, gtfo my house now" Also I wouldn't consider myself as a Dark something, because all im trying to do is get something that belongs to me back. They wouldn't be called the dark knights, maybe more the Calradians Aboriginal or something, but not Dark Knights. Also if they are so strong, why would've they let themselves pushed out of their home?

Because strength is nothing if you are caught by surprise or being overwhelm. Case in point, the romans and the Goth. Here you have the Roman army, the best trained and strongest army in the world at the time whose empire at one time stretch from the Med sea all the way to part of Britian. No known nation in the world could fully beat them, let alone sack their capital and who was the one that manage to do something that the Greeks or egypt can't? A group of nomad barbarians. Another example is the German armored division in WWII. They had the best trained and most powerful tanks in all the war but they couldn't kill the shermans and T-34 fast enough and the resource it takes to build or train a tiger or a panzer is probably doubled the amount it takes to build a T-34.

And you said you would come back with a gun and say get out of my house? Would you do that if you know that your house is being occupied by 12 men with similar guns or better ones then you and are better trained at combat than you? And obviously if someone overran your area, threw you out of your own country by force they would definately listen to a plea of peace. Maybe France or Poland should have went up to Hitler during the war and ask "Umm excuse me hitler sir, may we have our country back?" You think that will work? During war, capturing a leader or general can stop a war or it can not. A general or a leader is only one person, if you don't stop the whole army, you probably will get defeated. Shooting an officer in the field won't stop a company from coming after you.

Or it could be for the stupid fact that their armor is black? I mean maybe the area where they are currently live in produce a metal that has more CO2 than other area. Thats why their armor is black. People tend to remember stuff visually and physically more. Hence why there is racism.

Whatever, the subject is not what I'd do if I'd be pushed out of my home, it's if Dark Knights are evil or not.

As someone said earlier, they have unholy crusaders. Now don't come tell me unholy isn't evil.

So if they use unholy power to fight, well it's in some way evil, even if they want to do something good.

EVEN if they were pushed out of Calradia, and bla bla bla, the fact that they come back and kill people IS evil, good reason or not.

Let say someone punches you right on the nose, and it brokes. You come back a week after, and punch/kick him almost to dead. Is that evil? You did have a good reason, but the act of punching/kicking him is evil. Then you may go in jail for that. When someone kills another person, even if that someone had a very good reason (not self-defense), he goes in jail. Is he a criminal? Yes.

So whatever the reason they're taking over Calradia is, what they are doing IS evil. Yes, when we pushed them away (if that ever happened), it was evil. But what they are doing is and will always be evil.
Now when you do something evil, you are evil. When you do something criminal (kill someone), you're a criminal, either the reason was good or not.

Conclusion : Dark Knights are evil, wether they have a good reason for doing what they're doing or not.

 

[Mini Marine]

unholy crusaders could just as easily be atheist crusaders, and fighting back is not evil.  By your reasoning if someone invades your country, fighting back against them would make you every bit as bad as the invader so you should just allow yourself to be overrun.

Unless you are saying that its because they had already lost and are trying to reclaim it after the fact is what makes them evil, in which case going back to the earlier WWII analogy, once Hitler had taken over most of Europe it was rightfully his and it would only have been OK to stop him from expanding further, but invading continental Europe was an evil thing to do since he had won it fair and square.

Also you point out that the dark knights are killing people.  The people they are killing are enemy soldiers who are trying to prevent them from achieving those objectives.  Are those soldiers also evil since they are killing dark knights? Are all of the various kingdom troops and lords evil because they are fighting against each other? Are you and your forces evil for fighting the dark knights yourself? Violence isn't evil, its the intent behind it that determines good or ill, its a dangerous world out there, and not all disputes can be solved through peaceful means.

Once again, I'm pretty sure that in the context of the game Dark Knights are supposed to be seen as the evil enemy, but the fact they are called Dark Knights in and of itself does not make them evil.  With a back story of some sort You could say that they are or aren't but as its stands there is no evidence at all that the dark knights are evil.  Their dark armor could simply be for improved concealment, you don't want the enemy to be able to see you any sooner than necessary from light reflecting off of your shining armor do you?

When you do something criminal (kill someone), you're a criminal, either the reason was good or not.

There are times when you in fact do have a legal right to kill someone, its called self defense.  Police officers kill in the line of duty, they aren't criminals, same thing goes for those serving in the military.

 

[Tismanu]

As marine mention, Unholy does not mean your evil. It means you do not believe in the faith of someone else. Would you call the dala lama Evil because he believes in Buddhism when you are a christian and by your theory, he is unholy for worshipping a false god? Or vice versa, is the Pope Evil if you are a believer of a God other than Christ? Unholy is just a term meaning "you don't believe in what I believe so I shall label you as someone who does not know better and worship a demon instead of a savior that I believe in." Plus you state them as unholy crusaders right? A crusader is a holy warrior that fights for his religion. So does that mean he is an pagan and holy warrior that is fighting to spread his faith or defend it?

Isn't the object of a war to kill people? How are they different from any of the other nations that has been killing each other for years? How are they different from you who have killed countless soldiers as well? You or any other soldier out there is faced with the choice of being killed or killing in order to save yourself and those around you. Is it not hypocritical of you to call a group of people evil when you yourself have an army/Nation and have been killing soldiers as well? Each and every nation lays siege to towns and castle and kill countless people but yet, they are not evil. Only the Xenos that have came in and doing the exact same thing as everyone is evil.

If someone invaded your house and is physically hurting or even raping your wife or kids and you manage to hit him with a bat or kill him with a gun, does that make you evil for protecting your family from that aggressor or would you be evil for letting it happen and not doing anything about it. By law, you are techincally allowed to hurt or even kill anyone that breaks into your house or does an act of aggression while on your property.

 

[Riskbreaker]

Well the main problem for me was splitting them up so you can fight an army of ~400 or 700 of lady Larkin an army of 283 consisting of cavaliers ~40 +lordless Knight's and heroes npc not rhodok so ~60 horseman  ~80 skalds and the rest kings berserkers maybe some champions as well in a battle against lady larkin losing about 10 -20 men every Battle ( 100 men on the battlefield max ) and the enemy ~80 - 90 didn't have any problems beating them after taking out lady larkin horse archery rulz  . BUT there is a huge problem when sieging castles of dark Knight's they just kill of everyone i send up the ladder you cant get a foothold on the walls only way i imagine taking such a castle is sniping them off by myself most of archers just don't have the accuracy necessary (maybe ivory archers haven't tested it because i don't have them    )
Well anyway a good test to your skills.

 

[cadaverescu]

my 2 cents on this is...
since you already got the black knights...
In Bow we had aslo awaly wich was some super infantery (wich was like the white knights)
they were weraring white suits, had too long spears (300 range with uber speed), fast bows and arows, and super athletics. All of them were deadly in melee... the lancers had some super-javelins... Maybe you could consider introducing some white knights to fight everyone but especialy  the dark ones... and they should be dressed in the same armours but white/silver textured...

 

[Nebulaoblivion]

So.. Is there anyway to get rid of them once they've invaded..?

 

[SanDiego]

Oh, it's beautiful to see people obvlivious to facts discussing

First of all, your point of view is twisted by western culture (doubt there's anyone chinese or something like this around ). In western culture, deeply influenced by catholicism, dark means "evil" and light "good". But for example in China white colour is the symbol of death, as is the number four. So, just the fact they're dark, doesn't imply they're "evil".

Second, there's nothing like "good" and "evil". Theese two words are just mere morale evaluators. It varies through cultures and even through social groups. For example, in Nacistic Germany the greatest of evils were Jews and the Germanic race was heavenly good. At the same time, in jewish culture, the greatest of evils was Hitler and Šóa.

Point three: unholy doesn't mean "evil" (see paragraph two). For example, I'm an atheist and I sometimes make jokes of Christianity (and Judaism, and Islam and many others as well ). That makes me pretty much unholy. Heretic even. But do I seem as an "evil" person? I don't think so, people even don't belive me when I'm intimidating them

Point four: as someone has pointed out, Dark Knights could just be returning to their homes In previous versions of M&B there were Black Knights, who disappeared mysteriously in version .930, I think. Dark Knights could just be their descendants having their revenge

Point five: someone here said, that the point of war is to kill everyone. Well, to say it shortly, no. You should read Starship Troopers by R. A. Henlein. You will learn, that the main point of war is to subjugate your enemies, not to kill them. If the point was killing everyone, Earth would be half-sterile from nuclear explosions.

By law, you are techincally allowed to hurt or even kill anyone that breaks into your house or does an act of aggression while on your property.

Fortunately, this is only possible in USA.

So.. Is there anyway to get rid of them once they've invaded..?

KIIILL!!

So, this was my humble opinion, feel free to spam on.

 

[Mini Marine]

By law, you are techincally allowed to hurt or even kill anyone that breaks into your house or does an act of aggression while on your property.

Fortunately, this is only possible in USA.

So you consider it a bad thing to be able to use force against someone trying to cause you and/or your family harm if they break into your home?

What would be the better option, barricade yourself in the bedroom and HOPE the police show up in time to save you?

The rest of your points I agree with you on, but on this we most certainly have a difference of opinion.  "Violence is never the answer" is a pleasant thought, but unfortunately there are times when faced with extraordinary circumstances when you must fight.  You cannot always rely on others to protect you, you have to be able to protect yourself.

 

[DamienZharkoff]

By law, you are techincally allowed to hurt or even kill anyone that breaks into your house or does an act of aggression while on your property.

Fortunately, this is only possible in USA.

So you consider it a bad thing to be able to use force against someone trying to cause you and/or your family harm if they break into your home?

What would be the better option, barricade yourself in the bedroom and HOPE the police show up in time to save you?

The rest of your points I agree with you on, but on this we most certainly have a difference of opinion.  "Violence is never the answer" is a pleasant thought, but unfortunately there are times when faced with extraordinary circumstances when you must fight.  You cannot always rely on others to protect you, you have to be able to protect yourself.

Amen to that

As for the nuke line.. it will happen someday. There is NO stopping it. When man has a weapon, its inevitable that some git will want to use it. Sadly not ALL humans are intelligent enough to use weapons only for retaliation and defense.

 

[HSharp]

To get more on topic with Dark Knights rather then about Dark as an abjective.

If you defeat the dark knight kingdom do thier lords split up and join other factions? Would be pretty cool to go to war with Lord Tantius(sp?) and his ridiculously overpowered army.