Dark Knights:

[Tismanu]

Meh make them the green knights. So that I can think of them as greenpeace and all the other environmenist out there. Gives me more of an urge to kill them. ^_^

 

[DamienZharkoff]

And their violence would make sense then.

 

[Mini Marine]

or you could make them the black knights of monty python fame...they'll continue to try to fight even with all of their limbs gone

 

[DamienZharkoff]

or white knights and black stallions and call it Native "Expansion" (porn joke)

 

[Joker86]

In fact the Black Knights aren't that horrible as everyone says...

... you only need is about 300 Rangers (2nd upgrade) and a few good knights (25 perhaps, I had Cavaliers) for sweeping them up at the end.

Just let your archers take position behind a hill so that they are covered. That's because the black knight archers are much more deadly, but on shorter range they simply lose against superior firepower due to outnumbering. Lean back and watch the slaughter. When you see that your men run out of arrows simply press tab, pull back, and attack again. Works fantastic.

Some minutes ago I won against the big bad black lady with her complete army of about 800 (and me about 330). And before that I won against 2 of her lords at the same time, again about 800 men. All in all I didn't have 30 deads (but about 80 wounded  ).

Now the last 2 knight lords are to be finished off, but I am confident 

 

[Tismanu]

Ah I wonder what your battle size is set at. I usually have mine at 350 or 400 and I die due to sheer numbers on the other side lol.

Plus 300 archers can usually kill anyone but..getting that many troops, walking around with it normally sucks. They eat up food too quickly and I'm not fond of stopping in town every day.

Sieging a town from them is deadly, I usually loose about 25% of my troops waiting for the tower to dock or about 10% of my troops if its a ladder. And thats before I even get anywhere near the walls. =/

 

[XWolfGhost]

Witness their defeat, and I didn't even play any part in this. So if the AI can beat them, a player certainly should be able to. "Dark Knights is no more!" Question about Dark Knight troops, how do they get more troops? Do they not use the normal recruiting process or do they just start adopting the culture of the castles/towns they capture? Would suck to see if they actually survived long enough and started becoming a normal kingdom...

 

[IntelHydralisk]

Witness their defeat, and I didn't even play any part in this. So if the AI can beat them, a player certainly should be able to. "Dark Knights is no more!" Question about Dark Knight troops, how do they get more troops? Do they not use the normal recruiting process or do they just start adopting the culture of the castles/towns they capture? Would suck to see if they actually survived long enough and started becoming a normal kingdom...

The thing about computers fighting each other... the battles are auto calculated so I'm pretty sure a jacked up army of dark knights on roids would still have a tough time beating some recruits.

I've noticed this numerous times while watching NPC's fight it out while I camp next to them. A crusader group of 11 (paladins, crusaders, blademasters) lost to a group of 13 farmers... since 13 > 11...

Which was also mentioned earlier in this thread... the best way to beat them is get a randomly large army and auto calc your way through it.

 

[JoeDoe]

well, i just fought against 2 of the black lords with an army of about 200 cavaliers and i totally overrunned them, lost just about 15 of my soldiers, but on a siege-battle against them, they are damn tough...

so, they aren't invincible, but in my opinion, they are much too strong and/or have too many soldiers.

and it seems, that thay get them out of nowhere.

best regards

Joe

 

[XWolfGhost]

Or more proof that Calvary are extremely overpowered? In my opinion a player shouldn't be able to take on a Black Lord by himself, let alone two. Then whats the point? They are just the same as the other Kingdoms. As for the auto-calculating, maybe that is something that should be worked on then. Seems like a really weak system if it does that...you would at least think it would calculate the strengths of both sides and other variables, not just 11 is greater then 10, You Win!!

 

[Joker86]

well, i just fought against 2 of the black lords with an army of about 200 cavaliers and i totally overrunned them, lost just about 15 of my soldiers, but on a siege-battle against them, they are damn tough...

so, they aren't invincible, but in my opinion, they are much too strong and/or have too many soldiers.

and it seems, that thay get them out of nowhere.

best regards

Joe

I tried this as well, before I used the tactic with 300 archers.

I had about 50 Cavaliers, 30 Counts, 80 Elite Kataphraktos, 25 Minor Councilmen, 40 Princes and some other stuff, all in all over 300 knights, and in each battle I killed about 1,5 times soldiers as I lost. But unfortunately 850 is more than 1,5 times 300, so finally I lost. I don't know what I did wrong?

I play on highest difficulty with battle sizer 200.

 

[JoeDoe]

i took mid-low difficulty and battlesizer 199 and it was only 1 lord of them ~300 soldiers

moreover it was just a test if this army got beaten by the black knights and i just "watched" the battle

maybe i should try the archers tactic, too, it sounds like fun

 

[Joker86]

i took mid-low difficulty and battlesizer 199 and it was only 1 lord of them ~300 soldiers

moreover it was just a test if this army got beaten by the black knights and i just "watched" the battle

maybe i should try the archers tactic, too, it sounds like fun

This explains a lot 


My tactic only works due to my tactics skill of 10 (+4). If you don't have a good relation between archers and enemy soldiers you will lose.

And don't be afraid if the mounted knights crush into your Ranger lines - Rangers are pretty nasty meele fighters, as I had to recognize, that if black knights - even the top tier troops - get sorrunded by Rangers they fall immediately, often without even wounding (=taking HP) an archer. 

 

[MrRoy]

What you must do is include an option to join them 
I also want to play evil and kill every nation... Also a way to recruit some of their troops haha.

Doing quests for them and giving them our oath, gain rep, get a special item when you get 50+ rep, etc etc, that'd be epic!

Everyone wants that, you can't say no!

I can. That would basically be adding a "Win" button to the game.

Also, how do you know the Dark Knights are evil? Perhaps they are sweeping oppressive empires from the face of the world.

they are evil cuz of what Mini Marine said :

but they are dark knights, dark is inherently evil isn't it?

You could always change them to Red Knights, spreading the scourge of socialism to every corner of the earth :p

And how about starting a new game and feeling like having a "fun" game of only pwning everyone? I know it's pointless, no challenge, but it's fun. Aren't we suposed to have fun in a game?

I mean, I know it's like adding a "win" button to the game, but atleast you'd have about a week (game time) of fun.

 

[The Mercenary]

Dark is not inherently evil. That makes as much sense as saying the stars are inherently good, because they shed light.

Also, no.

 

[Mini Marine]

OK, since it seems i was unclear initially lets try this again

[sarcasm]
but they are dark knights, dark is inherently evil isn't it?
[/sarcasm]

 

[MrRoy]

Dark is not inherently evil. That makes as much sense as saying the stars are inherently good, because they shed light.

Also, no.

 

[Mini Marine]

Religious mumbo jumbo (sorry if i'm offending any religious folks here) does not prove that dark is evil, neither does the fact that poetically its nice and continent to associate darkness and evil, yes, yes, "his soul was as dark as midnight" sounds all nice and menacing and whatnot, and i'm sure the dark knights are supposed to be evil, but that still doesn't mean that dark=evil

 

[HSharp]

Course, dark knights do have troops called unholy crusaders, still not neccesarily evil but narrows it down a bit more

 

[MrRoy]

dark knights are supposed to be evil

that's the point, I first said that I'd love to play evil, and Merc said dark doesnt mean evil, but whatever they're trying to kill everyone in calradia, so don't tell me they're not evil

Course, dark knights do have troops called unholy crusaders, still not neccesarily evil but narrows it down a bit more

exactly