Resolved Crash during Large Battles, but not Sieges

[John Shepard]

Summary: DELETE, Other threads already posted this issue.
Same as title implies, which confuses me. I thought it was numbers, so I went from 1k to 800, then to 700, it just buys me time, but sieges work.. However, any open battle is a gamble. Most of the time they crash near the end...after the load on the game is lowest. No ragdolls or corpses.

How to Reproduce:
Large battle field.
Scene Name (if related):
Media (Screenshots & Video):
Computer Specs:
OS:Win10
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 980
GPU Driver Version: v457.30 Release date 11/09/2020
CPU: Intel i7-8086k
RAM:16ram
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390SLI-CF
Storage Device (HDD/SSD): 1tb SSD


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Starting new log file...
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[23:15:24.538] Working Memory: 4500 MB
[23:15:24.538] Commit Memory: 7665 MB

[23:15:24.538] Page Allocator Memory: 0 MB
[23:15:24.538] DumpSendPath: \\rgldumpserver.taleworlds.com\Crashes/2020-11-16_04.15.24
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The following repeats itslef from one of the files:

[23:36:53.629] set_next_mount_anim_system called for Human_anim_system -1374920704 and mount reference 0.
[23:36:54.034] Granite Error in Graphine::Granite::Internal::Transcoder::Tick: The transcoded bitstream was invalid, this may indicate a corupted file or incompatible transcoder version.

 

[uçanbiblo]

Hello, can you please send us a save file so we can further inspect the issue? You can upload the file to http://upload.taleworlds.com:8080/ address. Please paste the link to this thread as description so i can identify it.

 

[John Shepard]

Hello, can you please send us a save file so we can further inspect the issue? You can upload the file to http://upload.taleworlds.com:8080/ address. Please paste the link to this thread as description so i can identify it.

Had enough time to start 2 Vanilla campaign and recreate the crashes. For whatever reason it doesn't start right away.
Started 1 Campaign:
Went by 40 days, engaged in every open battle F6 the units. But then it crashes in open battles at some point. Happens once, then it goes a few days. Then again, and again until every open battle field crashes. It doesn't occur in sieges. But finally I got you your documents and data to mine. No mods, a vanilla campaign and save.
I uninstalled the game, deleted every folder associated with the game. As such it was as fresh of a start as possible.

These random crashes that some folk have been reporting in open battles. Saw the same issues in the mods forums for Harmony, for MCM, for other unrelated mods. I've been hunting this down for 2 dang weeks. Inevitably I finally had no choice but to go barebones and figure out if it isn't the mods but the core game. Sadly, recreated the crash in the core game.

In the end, just like the "cannot create save" error annoyed me months ago to leave bannerlord. This open battle field crashes have done the same. I really hope you'll investigate. Keep up the good work.

Thank you.


So here you have it:
Google drive to two crashes and their respective saves.
Most current save that crashes.

Crash tag from the sent report:

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Thank you for your help. Upload completed successfully.

You can use the following identifier if you prefer to seek help in person: 2020-11-25_03.56.37_0a3b9d6ff238fecdaac9822620903949 (Copied to clipboard)
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Crash Description Written in game:

Recreated Open Battlefield Crash, Vanilla. 1.5.4

Crash report description in the link provided to http://upload.taleworlds.com:8080

At long last Vanilla Open Battle field crash 1.5.4
Please investigate.
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[uçanbiblo]

Hello, i will forward the issue and your save files to the QA team. Thank you for your time and your effort.

 

[repzaj1234]

I can attest to this as well. I have ran into this issue since 1.2 up until now at 1.5.3 and it always happens during huge field battles (ie. 3000v3000 or more) with several parties/armies involved. The crash always happens near the end, I am not sure if it's during reinforcements respawn or when a side decides to retreat or if it's the horses from dead cav piling up. It is a massive gamebreaking bug as fighting for 30 mins then crashing and having to redo it only to crash again is really disheartening. This was the height of my campaign and I cannot even finish this massive battle and has caused my campaign to come to an abrupt halt. I know my current game is modded but I have been able to reproduce this on vanilla and other people have too. Definitely worth recreating these scenarios in a QA environment.

 

[uçanbiblo]

Hello, are you still experiencing this issue on the latest live version of the game e1.5.6?

 

[Maifailun]

I am on e.1.5.6 (stable), and i can confirm this word by word. I also uploaded a crash dump via crash uploader tool. It is worth noting that i use some mods, but having read a lot complaints about it i am sure none of my mods are causing it.

It is always the same. First battle after loading a save usually plays fine. After that, crashes are random. Had no crashes while playing sieges though.

Here is the crash dump :2021-01-16_20.42.12_00000000000000000000000000000000

 

[Froden]

This sounds exactly like my crash report from 1.5.6 beta here:

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/1-5-6-constant-crashing-in-battles.437396/

I'm currently around day 250 of a 1.5.7 campaign and have not yet experienced this large battle crash. This crash doesn't seem to happen early in a campaign.

 

[uçanbiblo]

I am on e.1.5.6 (stable), and i can confirm this word by word. I also uploaded a crash dump via crash uploader tool. It is worth noting that i use some mods, but having read a lot complaints about it i am sure none of my mods are causing it.

It is always the same. First battle after loading a save usually plays fine. After that, crashes are random. Had no crashes while playing sieges though.

Here is the crash dump :2021-01-16_20.42.12_00000000000000000000000000000000

Hello, can you please send us a save file so we can further inspect the issue? You can upload the file to http://upload.taleworlds.com:8080/ address. Please paste the link to this thread as description so i can identify it.

This sounds exactly like my crash report from 1.5.6 beta here:

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/1-5-6-constant-crashing-in-battles.437396/

I'm currently around day 250 of a 1.5.7 campaign and have not yet experienced this large battle crash. This crash doesn't seem to happen early in a campaign.

Hello, please let us know in your post if the crash occurs again.

 

[Saunakalja]

2021-01-18_12.11.02_dbfa684bacd55965a795d9aed5d16a33

I started new campaign and now got castle, did defend it all ready battle size 388 vs 300 and no problems, now bigger enemy 600 is coming into it, i can sally out with my 400 guys and 2 times i have beat them and in end crash both times...

 

[uçanbiblo]

2021-01-18_12.11.02_dbfa684bacd55965a795d9aed5d16a33

I started new campaign and now got castle, did defend it all ready battle size 388 vs 300 and no problems, now bigger enemy 600 is coming into it, i can sally out with my 400 guys and 2 times i have beat them and in end crash both times...

Hello, i have forwarded the issue to the QA team. Thank you for reporting it in and for your time.

 

[Saunakalja]

Hello, i have forwarded the issue to the QA team. Thank you for reporting it in and for your time.

There was some small update and i got the battle done without crash! So everything is fine again and Ghengis Khan can overtake the world!

 

[VvoOKasH_PL]

Had this before last update - what helped was to tune max corpses on battlefield from unimited to Very high, and ragdolls to 10 (both values one step down before max), and no crash in large battles (saying 1000+ vs 1000+).
Maybe it helps.

 

[uçanbiblo]

I am glad the problem is solved. Please let us know if you encounter any other issues.